Flex seems to pop up everywhere and gets more media jobs than most. Always on sky.
Are football ‘influencers’ ruining it?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss three 1-1 draws.
The first got us knocked out of the FA Cup, the next puts us in a good position in our Round of 16 Europa League game, and the latest was an actual decent performance against Arsenal at Old Trafford.
All hopes for the season now rest on the Europa League - does Amorim have the squad to win it?
I’m 25, don’t group me in with these kinds of people. More like 20 or younger.Klopp better than Fergie because of erm ….the Sport Science!I swear every month I see a debate like this and someone mentions “sports science”..
Sums up the 25 year old or younger football fan though. Kind of person who thinks football became good in 2008 and before then we were in the stone ages with football. Tactics weren’t a thing, nobody could run and all players were drunks.
Klopp better than Fergie because of erm ….the Sport Science!
Sums up the 25 year old or younger football fan though. Kind of person who thinks football became good in 2008 and before then we were in the stone ages with football. Tactics weren’t a thing, nobody could run and all players were drunks.
Tsk. They played mere 4-4-2 in the past. Bunch of cavemen.
I think cos he’s quite safe and presentable. You never catch flex having a meltdown or slagging players off like a lot of these other lads.
hmm.. not sure. I mean you weren’t alive at the start of the treble season
Haha yeah that old chestnut. Like Fergie wasn’t playing Scholesy in the hole in the early noughties.
I get that a lot of these guys are crap and should be ignored, but what exactly is "it" that they are ruining? Does anyone take them seriously at any level?
You ever heard of Talksport?
Because Jenas, Dixon and Souness have actually kicked a ball for bigger teams than the Dog & Duck Sunday Morning FC.
Yeah. They now employ some of these chancers.
Only Fans, Only Facts.
Yeah was pleased to see Howson highlight it
You didn’t read my post.
Nobody is listening to YouTubers for insightful football analysis.
Nah they're alright. Better than listening to the mainstream media full of ex Liverpool and United players who are too worried to say anything controversial or give their honest opinions.
I try to care or worry about what I can control. I mostly manage to achieve that. But I'm human so sometimes things stress me unduly.
So the noise that comes from low quality media is for others.
Far better to put our energy into quality discussions like RedCafe.
So the noise that comes from low quality media is for others.
Far better to put our energy into quality discussions like RedCafe.
Been watching a few HITC Sevens videos lately, think he's called Alfie? Harsh to mention him in this thread because he's not ruining anything, but I can't make up my mind if I like his stuff or not.
Covers some interesting topics on his youtube channel. I like long-form videos and his usually last 1/2 an hour which is another positive but I feel he could have taken 5-10 minutes to say what he did in 30 at times. Not all of the time though.
Has a peculiar speech pattern, emphasizing random words and pausing at odd times mid-sentence for no reason at all while reading his script which can be distracting to the point I've stopped watching once or twice. I saw an interview with him and he talks completely differently on that - sounds normal.
Covers some interesting topics on his youtube channel. I like long-form videos and his usually last 1/2 an hour which is another positive but I feel he could have taken 5-10 minutes to say what he did in 30 at times. Not all of the time though.
Has a peculiar speech pattern, emphasizing random words and pausing at odd times mid-sentence for no reason at all while reading his script which can be distracting to the point I've stopped watching once or twice. I saw an interview with him and he talks completely differently on that - sounds normal.
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My issue with that lot is that increasingly they are trying to be like the influencers. Carragher acts like a Liverpool fan channel, Neville shouts and moans like he's Goldbridge and Keane goes on more rants than AFTV now.
influencers are a bane to the world.
Klopp better than Fergie because of erm ….the Sport Science!
Sums up the 25 year old or younger football fan though. Kind of person who thinks football became good in 2008 and before then we were in the stone ages with football. Tactics weren’t a thing, nobody could run and all players were drunks.
I do agree. Yes though, players at least in England/Scotland were much bigger drinkers and less fit pre 2000, tactics were less complicated and more predictable. The point is, you still had to be the best of the best to succeed as a player or manager. Similar to 'best player of all time' debates, younger folk dismiss the likes of Maradona, Best, Brazil Ronaldo and others just on numbers. Those guys were butchered and ok, they were relatively unmanageable loons. If you dropped them into modern football though, just starting out, with all the protection they'd get on and off the pitch, I have no doubt they'd be on Messi/Ronaldo type levels, definitely much bigger numbers.
They are good, as is the Palace bloke HLTCO but they're not the type of people I really made the thread about. More the influencers who make click-baity content whether that is thumbnails, buzzword or otherwise. HITC and HLTCO are people who clearly meticulously research and prepare their content.
"Influencer" covers so many different types of content creators that it has become meaningless, but the guys who do video essays, profiles on individual people, clubs and their arcs, football history, tactical analysis are a great addition to how we consume football. I also love the away days type channels such as StuntPegg. I watch a lot of the channels that do skills challenges as well. Actually, football Youtube is basically great.
Why
The United player/fan would be no better than the likes of Rio, Scholes, Neville etc.
This is exactly why the TV gets turned off after the final whistle.
This is just car crash TV trying to appeal to a wider audience for YouTube clicks.
It was probably a 2min clip at the end of a segment, weren’t like they’re catering to them.
It’s a different world now.
The video is 22 minutes long.
That video is 20mins. I skimmed through it, it's total crap.
Imagine paying for that to watch games and being presented with that shit.
Influencers are part of the reason why this fanbase has gotten increasingly more toxic and hostile to the squad.
Self-awareness? Another snowflake probably too lazy to get off your arse and vote remain
Saw Expressions or whatever debating with Slaven Bilic the other day. Found it hard to listen to
Obesssed? Parents dumped you?
Watched a bit of this CBS post game show. Felt like this was finally the moment it jumped the shark. Carragher a snarky twat, Henry a rude annoying, fussy little gobshite, Micah the only decent man in there and he has the charisma of a doorknob.
We used to have "football influencers" back in the day - and it was fine. Because they were earnest, courteous and well read individuals (I'm thinking John Dykes show and Andy Penders hosting from SG). This generation is just born on socials and it shows in every fibre of their insecure being. Even worse is grown footballers in their dotage trying to one-up them.
We used to have "football influencers" back in the day - and it was fine. Because they were earnest, courteous and well read individuals (I'm thinking John Dykes show and Andy Penders hosting from SG). This generation is just born on socials and it shows in every fibre of their insecure being. Even worse is grown footballers in their dotage trying to one-up them.
Yeah, I'm clearly too old for the direction this world has long headed towards. Let me go walk outside to clear my mind and yell at some clouds.
I think I should caveat that when I talk about football influencers I mean the likes of Speed or Buvey, Jennings, AFTV etc. who feed off clips and sound bites. There are some people in the same world and environment like StuntPegg, James Alcott and HLTCO who I suppose are classed as influencers but are a class above due to their research and type of content and I suppose following that old school well read model.
Definitely better than losing grey cells watching "Mr Beast".
I would count them as football influencers as long as football pays them, which it must do now. The moment they find another lucrative opportunity, they'll be gone. I'd rather the overall quality of discourse wasn't headed to the gutter but it's a bit late for that. The ones you identified, yep, and I'm sure there are some on YT who are a million times better than the mainstream crap.
Yeah, for the life of me, I really don't understand it bud. Why/how some can find pleasure in watching/following/promoting some of these influencers. But oh well, we're all unique and each to their own.
Specially those who follow that Forest fan (who's supposedly a MU fan).
For some reason I had his live stream recommended last night. Watched 10 minutes of it which involved him not knowing how to put a tie on, and taking a piss with his mic on for everyone to hear. Weirdly, in that time I went from thinking he was a wazzock to slightly warming to him as he was clearly a nervous wreck.
Never going to watch him again as that 10 minutes was 10 minutes too much for me.
soon no one will watch football. you’ll pay sky 100€ a month (thanks, starmer,) to watch influencers reacting to other influencers, who are watching the game.