Are Bruno and Rashford a problem?

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Rashford has been in the team for 8 years now. I keep hearing how he hasn't developed as a footballer since he was a teenager, is way too technically limited, strolls around the pitch, can't be arsed to work, gets put on a pedestal just because he's a local lad, and we'll never get anywhere by building the attack around him, and he'd never get into the top teams in Europe.

Only problem is, for someone so apparently easily replaceable, we've spent the best part of a decade and spunked a massive amount of money trying to find even a single attacking player that's managed to keep him out of the team for any length of time.
Eh? Garnacho has been better on the left than him this season, but gets moved to the right to accomodate him
 
File this game under exhibit 8352 for why we need to bin these two off.
 
File this game under exhibit 8352 for why we need to bin these two off.
What are you talking about? Bruno has been our best player easily.

Rashford can leave asap. Hojlund and Antony can pack their bags with Ten Hag.
 
Rashford is the bigger problem.

I do feel like we would be a better team in the long run with a more balanced midfield without Bruno, but atm we don’t have many other players that can actually create anything.

Rashford though, he’s a waste of a spot in the first team.
 
I’m convinced rashford has something in his contract about play time. How is this guy still starting and lasting 90mins every game.
 
Bruno is certainly not... not compared to that manchild that is Rashford. He just gets worse and worse it seems. It really is time to leave and for us to replace him with a proper LW or RW(put Garnacho on the left).
 
Look forward to seeing some posters to say how Rashford has been playing with injuries again.
 
Putting Fernandes in the same category as Rashford is an insult :lol:
 
Bruno Will be a useful players in a squad under a good manager. He has ability and always puts in a shift.

Rashford absolutely can’t be here next season, he just can’t. His mentality and posture is all wrong, he is a terrible example for young players at the club and that sort of thing is what decides the club culture. He 100% cannot be here come August.
 
Bruno can be useful player for the next manager. Rashford is an entitled brat that should be sold.
 
Once again, everyone goes on about a clear-out and yet so many of you go on about keeping one of our top earners and captain as a 'useful' player.

Are you guys having a laugh? Madrid are where they are because they move players on at the right time (Di Maria, Varanen and Casemiro just to us) and use the money to reinvest them into young stars like Vini, Rodrigo, even Endrick.

Bruno is 30 this year and we have takers who are willing to pay us upwards of 50m. How is keeping him consistent with the much-vaunted INEOS rebuild with young hungry players?

This is why we are where we are because people fail to learn their lesson time and time again.

On Rashford, we should have sold him the summer EtH got here but at least he's young enough and arguably we can get more money for him this summer with the longer contract. Then he and his circle of pricks can go party in Dublin on PSG time.
 
I noticed at City Foden can get dropped and it’s not even news, similar with Halaand. The captain ? Who is the captain at City? It changes regularly, little importance is given to the armband.

At United big dramas are made out of the most trivial things.
 
Putting Fernandes in the same category as Rashford is an insult :lol:

Was going to say the exact same thing.
It feels like Rashy has barely scored or assisted this season and Bruno has given him at least one pen to increase his stats.
 
You’re an odd one.

Your Bruno exhibit is once again the best player on the pitch, by some distance. I mean, I get you’ve had many opportunities this season, but the last two games… you just make yourself look ridiculous.
It's not about playing well in a terrible team. He's an anathema to a top team dominating play.

He might have a couple of good games but he's supposed to have a couple of off games in a season at his level, salary and the fact he's got the captaincy.
 
It's not about playing well in a terrible team. He's an anathema to a top team dominating play.

He might have a couple of good games but he's supposed to have a couple of off games in a season at his level, salary and the fact he's got the captaincy.

When you use today as an exhibit is when you look daft as feck.
You’ve had many chances to bang that drum and no-one expects you to change your mind, but you sound manic when you rush in here after he’s been the best player on the pitch by far to declare it any exhibit of why he needs fecking off.

Today was another exhibit of how we need 6-7 new first team players this Summer, it’s that desperate.
 
When you use today as an exhibit is when you look daft as feck.
You’ve had many chances to bang that drum and no-one expects you to change your mind, but you sounds manic when you rush in here after he’s been the best player on the pitch by far to declare it any exhibit of why he needs fecking off.

Today was another exhibit of how we need 6-7 new first team players this Summer, it’s that desperate.
OK, I fully admit I have an agenda but I guess my point here is that today it was Rashford but usually it's either or both stinking up the place.

In any case, having to stomach 90 minutes from these two week after week might have had an impact on my football common sense :lol:
 
OK, I fully admit I have an agenda but I guess my point here is that today it was Rashford but usually it's either or both stinking up the place.

In any case, having to stomach 90 minutes from these two week after week might have had an impact on my football common sense :lol:

My jaw just dropped here, a redcafe poster holding his hands up :eek:

No question that no matter where you stand, the horrendous reliability of many of our best players means we have an enormous rebuilding job again. I just hope that for one fecking Summer we can go and actually get some money in for selling players and actually bring in 6-7 new first team player.
So fecking bored of this long term rebuild bollocks that inevitably always goes fecking wrong.
 
Rashford = The biggest fraud in football.

Please, I don't care if he scores a worldie next week. He has exhausted his chances at this club. Get him out!
 
OK, I fully admit I have an agenda but I guess my point here is that today it was Rashford but usually it's either or both stinking up the place.

In any case, having to stomach 90 minutes from these two week after week might have had an impact on my football common sense :lol:
Fair play. I wish we saw more honesty like this from other posters in the Bruno threads.
 
Once again, everyone goes on about a clear-out and yet so many of you go on about keeping one of our top earners and captain as a 'useful' player.

Are you guys having a laugh? Madrid are where they are because they move players on at the right time (Di Maria, Varanen and Casemiro just to us) and use the money to reinvest them into young stars like Vini, Rodrigo, even Endrick.

Bruno is 30 this year and we have takers who are willing to pay us upwards of 50m. How is keeping him consistent with the much-vaunted INEOS rebuild with young hungry players?

This is why we are where we are because people fail to learn their lesson time and time again.

On Rashford, we should have sold him the summer EtH got here but at least he's young enough and arguably we can get more money for him this summer with the longer contract. Then he and his circle of pricks can go party in Dublin on PSG time.
Great post. Bruno is 30, not a club legend, not a top 5 player in the world and even if he was we are not competing right now. When we get good it will be when players like Hojlund and Garnacho reach their prime and by that time Bruno will be useless.

It doesn't make sense to keep him.

We have literally 3 timelines at the same time in our squad. We have the 29-33 group:
Bruno
Varane
Casemiro
Lindelof
Maguire

We have 24-28:
Shaw
Onana
McTominay
Rashford
AWB
Martinez
Mount
Dalot
Malacia
Anthony

And lastly everyone else is younger than 22:
Amad
Hojlund
Garnacho
Mainoo

When our young guys reach their prime our current prime guys will be old and our old guys will be out of here and need replacing. Right now it looks like we are set up to keep going in our circle of mediocrity.
 
Put Bruno in a team where the other players give the same amount of effort as he does, and we will have some team.

Like when he plays for Portugal and looks like he's on another level.

We need some good players to compliment him.
 
Great post. Bruno is 30, not a club legend, not a top 5 player in the world and even if he was we are not competing right now. When we get good it will be when players like Hojlund and Garnacho reach their prime and by that time Bruno will be useless.

It doesn't make sense to keep him.

We have literally 3 timelines at the same time in our squad. We have the 29-33 group:
Bruno
Varane
Casemiro
Lindelof
Maguire

We have 24-28:
Shaw
Onana
McTominay
Rashford
AWB
Martinez
Mount
Dalot
Malacia
Anthony

And lastly everyone else is younger than 22:
Amad
Hojlund
Garnacho
Mainoo

When our young guys reach their prime our current prime guys will be old and our old guys will be out of here and need replacing. Right now it looks like we are set up to keep going in our circle of mediocrity.

If we’re waiting for all these to hit prime then feck me, when are we gonna be good? 2029?

FECK THAT!! I wanna be good next year and to stop this 11 year long cycle bollocks of a 3-5 rebuild.
 
Too old for that shite. I just worry we'll be revisiting these discussions again next year...

Aye, I personally would bin both, if I'm being completely honest. It's just not going to happen, though.

Rashford absolutely has to go, but again, I fear he'll get another chance to have one of his little purple patches before reverting to type.
 
Rashford absolutely has to go, but again, I fear he'll get another chance to have one of his little purple patches before reverting to type.

I’m not so sure, it’ll all depend on a possible PSG offer I’m sure.
We have so many issues in this team that I’m sure Ashworth has identified 6-7 positions that need huge improvement asap. If selling Rashford can help the club to achieve that this Summer, it’ll be like Coutinho and he’ll go. He’s out most saleable asset by far.
 
I’m not so sure, it’ll all depend on a possible PSG offer I’m sure.
We have so many issues in this team that I’m sure Ashworth has identified 6-7 positions that need huge improvement asap. If selling Rashford can help the club to achieve that this Summer, it’ll be like Coutinho and he’ll go. He’s out most saleable asset by far.

If PSG are stupid enough to go for him, fantastic. But, I imagine they have a tonne of statistical analysts and Rashford ain't gonna have anything going for him in that respect. The hope would be that they buy him on reputation alone.
 
If PSG are stupid enough to go for him, fantastic. But, I imagine they have a tonne of statistical analysts and Rashford ain't gonna have anything going for him in that respect. The hope would be that they buy him on reputation alone.

Reputation and the fact that the one thing he definitely is, is a big game player. They’ve seen it first hand a few times too.
PSG need that, they are plenty better than everyone else every week.
 
Reputation and the fact that the one thing he definitely is, is a big game player. They’ve seen it first hand a few times too.
PSG need that, they are plenty better than everyone else every week.

PSG do seem to have a bizarre approach to transfers. So yeah, I'm hoping they'll throw us a fair few quid for him. He really needs to go at this stage.
 
PSG have switched to prioritising French players and focussing on long-term squad building, especially with Enrique there.

Hopefully they make an exception for Rashford, especially with Mbappe leaving.
 
Bruno is one of our best players. Putting him in the same category as Rashford is crazy. Rashford walks around the pitch and gives absolutely no fecks.

If we sold Bruno, whoever we brought in to replace him would almost certainly be worse than he is.

The club should do everything it can to bin off Rashford.
 
Bruno is one of our best players. Putting him in the same category as Rashford is crazy. Rashford walks around the pitch and gives absolutely no fecks.

If we sold Bruno, whoever we brought in to replace him would almost certainly be worse than he is.

The club should do everything it can to bin off Rashford.
Agree. Bruno is our only shining light in this god awful team, imagine what he can do in a proper functioning team like City or Arsenal. His workrate, his vision and his creativity are the main reason why we are still scoring a good number of goals this season.

People keep saying if we get rid of Bruno our midfield would be more balanced. How is that? Maybe balance of being bad in all aspects more like.
 
Our biggest issue yesterday was the back 4.

3-0 up with twenty minutes to go, the attacking players (to an extent anyway) did their job until Ten Hag's substitutions then completely changed the game in a negative way.

Not sure how anyone watched it and reached the conclusion that Fernandes and Rashford were the problems.
 
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