Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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Eh ?
I agree with you on some points… chasing FDJ for £70m when there’s probably equally good CM’s available for cheaper isn’t ideal for the type of player he is and stage United are at.
But this whole “proven in the Premier League” how many of City’s, Liverpool signings were proven in the Premier League? If you have a system, the right players will excel in that system regardless of the league. Also our biggest waste of money have been on players “proven in the prem” post SAF.
If we want a new spend of £100-150m this summer, I'd suspect its de Jong and Antony and that's our business done, if we don't get Eriksen.
What a daft thing to bring up. Who gives a feck?
Liverpool shouldn't have hired Klopp because a German had never won the PL.
City shouldn't have hired Guardiola because a Spaniard had never won the PL.
City shouldn't have hired Pellegrini because a Chilean had never won the PL.
Chelsea shouldn't have hired Ancelotti because an Italian had never won the PL.
Chelsea shouldn't have hired Mourinho because a Portuguese had never won the PL.
Arsenal shouldn't have hired Wenger because a Frenchman had never won the PL.
Lamptey is a midget who would be massively exposed defensively in a back four. All of those defenders have one good season under their belt and would be as much of a gamble (or more) as the type of signings you're railing against. Leicester wouldn't sell us Ndidi for £25m in a million years. Kante is showing signs of being past it and injury prone. Eriksen we are, in fact, trying to sign. Tielemans has looked like shit for most of the last season. Bowen would be more like £100m than 50. Raphina wants to go to Barcelona and is as wasteful with the ball as Bruno. Ivan Toney and Danny Ings are Ivan Toney and Danny Ings.
But nevermind that shit, let's be PL Proven FC, because it's worked so well for us with Fellaini, Mata, Schneiderlin, Lukaku, Sanchez, Wan-Bissaka, Maguire...
Name them.
Send Ten Hag an email with a list of these cheaper and equally good CM's, you'd be doing the club a massive favour
Yeah he needs to push for this transfer to bring that valuation to our level, signing those two still leave me concerned about RB, DM and backup ST.
We signed Maguire for £85m, in the world of football you don’t think there was a better CD available for cheaper? Either known or unknown… well I’m certain the same applies to FDJ, if he was the Messi of his position I don’t think Barca would want him out seeing as the reason they want him out are not purely financial and I doubt we’d be the only club interested in him.
So…you don’t know any but you’re sure there are some. Cool.
Yeah it’s called common sense. We’re building a team.
I mean, there were better CB's out there when we splashed 80 odd million on Maguire.
I would much rather bring players who are Ten Hag system proven than PL proven, being "PL proven" was always overrated.
That was a ridiculous signing, it can't be compared to everyone we sign
I mean, there were better midfielders out there when we splashed 90 odd million on Pogba.
There was also better strikers out there when we splashed out 70 + million on Lukaku.
There was also better strikers out there when we splashed out 70 + million on Lukaku.
You make some fair points and your concerns are valid.
But what i'll say is that if in a hypothetical scenario our head coach was someone other than ten Hag, who also like the Dutch head coach preached positional play in a vertical axis, we would be happy with the names being linked to us currently. Players like Martinez and Antony along with Frenkie de Jong would represent a fantastic window imo, where we target players for a specific need, which aligns with the vision of the head coach where the aim is to exert zonal and positional control on the ball to then create numerical superiorities in the opponent's half to exploit space which should open up for the free man. And all that is expected without compromising on the intensity and work rate off the ball. And I wouldn't worry about signing a couple of Ajax players regards dressing room morale because these lads at Ajax are coming from a dressing room which was said to be united and with a good team spirit. So signing a couple of players from Ajax can only be a good thing in that regard. Bayern have also signed two players from Ajax for the new season.
i think we will mix it up when it comes to recruitment and the evidence is already there at the club. And a data department is there to help the football men make better informed decisions when it comes to recruitment and performance.
I completely agree with you about wanting to see fully functioning football departments that are aligned/streamlined towards supporting the head coach. And the data department will hopefully be one of those departments which will aid the cause. But it's going to take a bit of time for things to bed-in and then we will hopefully see a much more effective approach that is thorough and detailed in nature. Liverpool were the same in that regard, and it took Edwards and his team some time to settle and become as effective as they became. But before that, Edwards was widely ridiculed by the fans and media alike.
And it took John Murtough some time to get the youth teams to where they're now. Because when he arrived at the end of 2013, beginning of 2014, we were a bit of a shambles where things had started to deteriorate and parents were taking their kids to other academies. Murtough had to modernise the youth setup and now in the present day, we have numerous first contract players with big potential on the books and are reportedly close to signing a 15/16 year old left back (Jayden Meghoma) who is said to be amongst the biggest talents in his age group.
We’ll it’s not their job to know they’re not a scout
Yeah, the manager’s building a team and he considers him vital to it. Also you keep staying a ton of stuff, but none of it contains any suggestions of these mysterious CMs better than him. I’ll make it easy for you: there are none that are avaliable.
Did you read any of the other posts? The logic was “we should ditch him, i’m sure there’s other players in the world who are better/just as good” so I just asked him to name some. Hardly an absurd request.
Got excited by the tweet but before I could read I saw who posted it. Amazing crest and trough of emotions in half a second. Thanks for the unwanted experience.
Ajax want insane money for every fecker until Dortmund tickle their bellies for Haller. Then suddenly 30m is enough to get a deal done. He’s their main goal scorer!
Dortmund seem to set the price to the selling club the cnuts.
Not only that, they are barely trying to make a profit on haller after he scored tons for them whereas with us, they swore an oath to make us eat from garbage bins.
Because they know Haller isnt that good and will never have a higher value or reach better number than he did last season. This is their perfect ''cash in'' moment. Not even all Ajax fans are convinced by him.
Not interested. Average.
It’s not the Dortmund effect it’s the fact that half their team is getting ripped apart 2 already gone to Bayern and Haller to Dortmund.
They’re reluctant to let any more players go so have slapped high price tags on the remaining ones who teams want
Indeed, Haller isn't good enough and the 35 million is already waaaaaaaay too much, so easy sell.
Messi?
Ajax got £40-50 million from us for DVB, £140 million + for De Ligt and FDJ the year before, they could get £80 million + if they sell Antony to us as well as Haller this season, etc, where does the profit go? They never seem to buy big money players, just produce them.
Massive wages. That's why they can keep players for longer at the club. It's the only way Ajax can at minimum stay at the same level each year. TV Money is only 10 million a year, so it has to come from somewhere.
Oh and the bank, Ajax has a buffer of like €100 million.
One day they'll probably just open the war chest and blow the rest of Europe away
Umm, that’s sort of the point….
Really, how much is Antony on out of interest?
Not really public knowledge, but probably a lot less than the 6 million supposedly Haller earns
Edit: From what i could find Antony is only on €1+ million. So i'm guessing he'll get a big upgrade if he doesn't leave this summer and he probably will with the €60/70 million price tag.
I don’t think Ajax need to sell anyone else now this summer, unless someone offers crazy money. We’ve farted about too much.
Obviously, but to make this work so well is very impressive.
Not really public knowledge, but probably a lot less than the 6 million supposedly Haller earns
Edit: From what i could find Antony is only on €1+ million. So i'm guessing he'll get a big upgrade if he doesn't leave this summer and he probably will with the €60/70 million price tag.
You would imagine he'll be well up for leaving then and earning the silly money we through about.
Might be. But this is the way it usually goes at Ajax. Clubs want a player, Ajax doesn't sell and instead massively upgrades the wages and promises that they can go the next year. Happened multiple times now, it usually works out fine for Ajax and the player.
We did waste two years of the career of one of their old players to be fair. They want to play hard ball now.
Damn you Neil Custis ! Damn you to Hell !!
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