Looks decent but yet to see anything that doesn't make me think we paid double what he was worth because were only looking at the Dutch league
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This has to be Sancho, by a country mile. Most people here don't realize how good he was at 18-19, Antony has yet to show half of that level at 22.
Sancho? I will have some of those drugs you're taking mate.
Sancho shouldn't even be in the starting 11 at the moment. He's been awful.
He looks miles better than Sancho in terms of threat and wanting to do something. It's all a bit one dimensional, but that dimension of cutting in and getting off good shots or tricky passes is pretty good and is working. It feels like there should be more to come but it's not a bad start.
Yeah, he’s very quick. Something that was most obvious when he was tracking back and absolutely rinsed their striker for pace. Something the chump on the opposite wing doesn’t ever seem willing or capable of doing.
We're not talking about his level at the moment, we're talking about ceiling. So Maybe some of you here tend to forget, after seing Antony dribble a couple of semi professional players from Cyprus, that he never even remotely grazed at 22 the level that Sancho had at 18. He was really special.
Antony is very quick. He needs his fullback making overlapping runs like Mazroui did for him at Ajax and you’ll see him go up a few gears.
I don't think he's that quick, pacy yes but I never get the impression he will completely skin a full back due to pace.
You're basing all that from Sancho in a crap league.
In the PL he's not even been average. Never been that great for England either.
Sancho isn't as good as his Dortmund form made him look. See Havertz and Werner at Chelsea for further proof.
As for Antony....I'm making no judgement on him yet. Way too soon.
And yet I see dozens of messages here praising his abilities since he dribbled past a couple of players from Nicosie. I guess that's what we call double standards.
Also, convenient to mention Havertz and Werner but not De Bruyne or Haaland.
Really like this guy
Bit of a stupid argument. Not every single player to play in the Bundesliga is rubbish. Never said that. Lewandowski isn't for example, obviously.
However you do have to take it into account. He doesn't look like he can even beat a man in England. Doesn't say much for Bundesliga defenders to me. Werner also couldn't hit a barn door for Chelsea but seems right at home in Leipzig. The league is poor.
You gave exemples of players that didn't make it in the PL, I gave you exemples of players who did, I don't see how your argument is more a less valid than mine. Sometimes it's because players fail to adjust, sometimes it's because they looked better than they are, sometimes they need more time (like KdB), but you seemed pretty sure what it was for Sancho.
Anyway, my initial comment was about ceiling, and I took into account what Antony did in Eredivisie as well. Still, Sancho crushed him by any metric and showed more talent even with Antony playing for a more dominant side.
Not just that but we need more players taking the 'easy' attacking spaces where they should be arriving late at the back post or early at the front post. It's such a basic tactic that a team like Liverpool/City have on automatic where they get dozens of goals and lots of attacking opportunities.
Martial, Ronaldo, Sancho, Bruno, Dalot, Malacia, Shaw etc should be feasting on these types of crosses and plays once we get up to speed.
I am a little bit surprised that he seems to adapt to the new environment pretty well in such a short time.
Baller.
You don't have to bring up the past, we've been seeing him for almost 2 years now. Also weird snarky comments towards Antony who's already scored against City and Arsenal who aren't from Cyprus
Only slight frustration is haven't seen any of him going down the outside yet
Looks promising and think he’ll become even better. However he needs to go on the outside a bit more. Is he just 1 footed? He’s gonna get found out and defenders are gonna get sent out just to stop him cutting in on his left foot. To predicable at the minute. Think he’ll score some crackers though from outside the box, his style a bit like coutinho.
€100m for a player more one-footed than ol' A. Valencia.
I don't think that's possible unless you literally cut the other leg off.
Think this one through again.
There was a video of a moment where he beat his defender repeatedly and constantly battled against him.
Watching that clip is fecking annoying. Not because of Antony. Because he forces a way to make space and not a single fecking player offers to help him or provide a passing option. Wtf is wrong with the players at this club?!
On the topic of Antony, he's very tenacious, and still adjusting to the new level, but no doubt he seems like he'll be a success.
Watching that clip is fecking annoying. Not because of Antony. Because he forces a way to make space and not a single fecking player offers to help him or provide a passing option. Wtf is wrong with the players at this club?!
On the topic of Antony, he's very tenacious, and still adjusting to the new level, but no doubt he seems like he'll be a success.
The thing I like about him is his aggressiveness and bada**ness. This is something that all our other attackers lack (be it Sancho, Rashford, Ronaldo Martial, or even Elanga). He sprints at full speed to press, he is not worried about those body duels, and he doesn't mind doing a sliding tackle to avoid conceding a throw in or goal kick.
He needs to work on his right foot and his variety of play though. He will get found out if he keeps being a cut-in one trick.
He needs to work on his right foot and his variety of play though. He will get found out if he keeps being a cut-in one trick.
He does have a wicked left foot and it is glad to have a player who likes to take a shot from distance and with accuracy. Surely we are going to see a lot Robben-esque goals this season 
Good observation. I don't know whether its the shape or the players but our wingers often end up isolated with no one helping them.
Easy to forget he's only 22. As starts go, its been decent, im sure he has much more to give but you've to allow for settling in for the first few games at least. Certainly offers more than sancho at the minute which is a shame
Not really getting the excitement over his performances so far. For me he has looked a decent if predictable player who constantly wants to cut inside and lacking the ability to dribble past players. This might justify a £40m fee but the amount we paid for him continues to seem ridiculous
So why is his cieling the highest? He's been shocking. Like I said you're basing that on the Bundesliga. This league is not the same. It's much tougher.
He seems very intelligent with his decision making, almost always makes good decisions in terms of when to shoot, pass or cross, and does all of these at a very high level. He also puts in a shift defensively so this gives me hope that we finally have found someone who will be able to lock down the right wing position which has been a problem area for us for over a decade now.
What I hope to see more of from him is his ability to go past defenders when one on one, which I don't think we have seen enough of yet. I don't know if he even has it in him, will have to wait and find out. But really promising signs so far.
What I hope to see more of from him is his ability to go past defenders when one on one, which I don't think we have seen enough of yet. I don't know if he even has it in him, will have to wait and find out. But really promising signs so far.
Not sure about that, he had a solid right footed shot early in the 2nd half the keeper did well to save.
Sure he might not use it often, but it's clear he can use it when needs be.
That's quite clearly not true, he's done it plenty of times at Ajax and for Brazil. He did manage to dribble the defender on the outside this game too.
right now he's playing within himself, he's clearly feeling like the new kid at school and just trying to do the 'right thing' and keep the ball moving, pass it to the big guns when available.
Every game though he's opening up, he's trying new things and being braver. Let's not forget this is only his 4th game so far.
I suspect once he feels settled into the side, the team will start to use him as the creative hub and he will feel more confident in taking somebody on using the ball in a more dangerous way.
I really like what I see from him so far though.
Against City there was an incident where he shaped inside and went outside, ending up with a right footed shot saved at the near post (should probably have passed to Eriksen at the far post) So he does mix things up. Which is important.
Not blown away by his performances so far but really like him. He does the basics very well and is more skillful than I anticipated.
Why do people want to be blown away or expect him to bang goals and assists galore to prove he's worth the fee. He's been settling fine, already playing like he's been at the club for years and most important thing is that he's getting better and better and starting to show what he has in his locker. Not everything needs to be with a bang.
He plays like a 40/50 mil player. No better than Raphina, Adeyemi, Diaz, Jota, Mane or a million other attacking players that went for 50 mil ish or less. And yes I judge him on his fee. Bite me. I want levels. Saying that, its early days. He's been a 6/10 so far. I expect more as the season progresses.
If he doesnt stop the next asteroid from hitting our planet hes not worth 100m.
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No better than Mane? Oh no!
Dalot chillin'. Bruno in no man's land. Why do our fullbacks seemingly refuse to get involved forward. It's fecking Omonia, not prime Barcelona.
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