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Antony has not met expectations without question, but he has not been Alexis-style shite. What he lacks is the conviction to go right toward the byline to whip in a cross or the cutback back pass.
 
I don’t really blame ETH but our wacky structure, if we have one. Even if he desperately wanted Antony the top brass should be stepping in and refuse to pay that much for an incredibly limited player.

We have had Moyes, LVG, Mou, Ole and now ETH signing high profile mega million flops (potential flop maybe Antony turns it around unlikely though).

The common denominator is to be blamed, clearly the club is going wrong somewhere whatever the scouting and the transfer process is it obviously sucks and should be nuked to oblivion. This many flops isn’t just bad luck and coincidences.

Exactly whatever the recruitment process is it should never have reached a point where paying £80m for Anthony was an option. It’s exactly the same mistake we made with Maguire.
 
First season, not going to bury the lad. He's young, not even been in European football for that long. He's got a lot to work to do though, and I think he's got the tools to be a lot better. If he doesn't bring more variety to his game, he's not going to last at the top level, because defenders have already worked him out, saw it enough today.
 
His stupid little "Card? Card?" gestures to refs do us no favours either. It just annoys them further into giving us nothing.
 
His stupid little "Card? Card?" gestures to refs do us no favours either. It just annoys them further into giving us nothing.

yeah and its every time he gets clipped. Its not a good look.

He should let his feet do the talking - or in his case his foot.
 
Reminds me of pepe who was good in ligue 1. Was bought for fortune. Had some tricks and was good here and there but ultimately not consistent, couldn’t beat his man and had no end product. Hope he proves me wrong but the more I see him the more he reminds me of him.
 
No argument about his quality, one of the best wide players ever. Just from personnel taste the cut in and shoot style doesn't appeal to me aesthetically.
Robben didn’t only cut in and shoot. He could run an entire back-line ragged too by sheer pace and power. The game against Spain in the 2014 WC comes to mind. His technique was also several echelons above anything Anthony is capable of.
 
Antony has not met expectations without question, but he has not been Alexis-style shite. What he lacks is the conviction to go right toward the byline to whip in a cross or the cutback back pass.
Well...

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What do Ajax fans or those that watched him then think? Are you surprised he's been this bad?
A few of my posts before we signed him:

Antony isn't a good dribbler either. What he benefited from was having Mazraoui overlapping on the right.

Many counters were ruined because he was reluctant to take on his man on the break because he doesn't have the strength or speed to beat them. Same as Sancho.
All it takes is watching one game to see he isn't a good dribbler, and I've watched a lot more than one of his.

He's the exact same player as Sancho. Weak, slow, but technical.

The more I watch of him, the more I think he’s the wrong choice.

I was super impressed with him when I watched him for Brazil’s youth team. However, for Ajax, he’s just too lightweight for me. He needs to give and go to be effective. We need wide players who can beat their man because we don’t have a single one yet. Rashford doesn’t beat his man and Sancho is a give and go player, too.

City have dominated the league having wide players like Sterling and Sané. Liverpool with Mané and Salah. All players who can beat their man. That is a player we are sorely lacking.

In true Redcafe fashion, though, I was insulted and told I had no clue as to what I was talking about.
 
Our recruitment is still absolutely awful.

He is just a player with too many weaknesses.
 
A few of my posts before we signed him:






In true Redcafe fashion, though, I was insulted and told I had no clue as to what I was talking about.
Well you don’t exactly do yourself any favours do you?
 
I was so infuriated with him today with one piece of play.

It was 3v2 and he went inside towards the box where it was conjested, rather than taking the man on the outside with acres of space.

I repeat, our players have the lowest IQ in the league.
 
We’ve spend 100m on a one trick pony who is largely ineffective on the pitch.

Consider he isn’t even that impressive in the Dutch league, you need to ask wonder why we’ve overspent so much on him.
 
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A few of my posts before we signed him:

In true Redcafe fashion, though, I was insulted and told I had no clue as to what I was talking about.
Which you 100% confirmed and signed with the most authentic seal of approval with your views on Casemiro.
 
His stupid little "Card? Card?" gestures to refs do us no favours either. It just annoys them further into giving us nothing.
The only meaning for him to be on the pitch is to wind up opponents and get them booked. That's why he's so persistent.
 
We’ve spend 100m on a one trick pony who is largely ineffective on the pitch.

Consider he isn’t even that impressive in the Dutch league, you need to ask wonder why we’ve overspent so much on him.

I would not think he is a one-trick pony.

I still think he has lots of potential considering his ball-retention ability, his pace, his once-for-a-while passing skill, his willingness to help defending.

He is young and ambitious, which is important too for him to develop in PL.
 
We’ve spend 100m on a one trick pony who is largely ineffective on the pitch.

Consider he isn’t even that impressive in the Dutch league, you need to ask wonder why we’ve overspent so much on him.

He has time to improve. Salah and Mahrez weren't great at that age.
 
He has time to improve. Salah and Mahrez weren't great at that age.
Salah was loaned and sold to Serie A to improve. Mahrez was playing for a mid-table side yet producing better numbers. Are we starting Antony week in week out for the next few seasons, crossing our fingers hoping he will reach their level one day? Or loaning a 80m signing out like he's an academy player?
 
We’ve spend 100m on a one trick pony who is largely ineffective on the pitch.

Consider he isn’t even that impressive in the Dutch league, you need to ask wonder why we’ve overspent so much on him.
He isn't a one trick pony. If you are expecting a Mahrez or Salah then it's your problem. He isn't that kind of player at all.
 
He isn't a one trick pony. If you are expecting a Mahrez or Salah then it's your problem. He isn't that kind of player at all.
People have already made up his mind he is a flop. People want him to play like Robben when he is not that type of a player.

The truth is ETH rates him and I can see him featuring regularly even next season.
 
Consider he isn’t even that impressive in the Dutch league, you need to ask wonder why we’ve overspent so much on him.

Murtough bent over backwards for Ten Hag. If he's doing that then why have him in the first place? Just sack the DOF and trust EtH with everything.
 
I don't understand what kind of football needs to be played in order for this guy to shine.
People have been writing that he excels when his team plays a "give-and-go" style, OK...

Does this mean he has a good through ball on him, as long as it's a short pass?
I've seen no indication of it up to now.

Never seen a winger who can't beat a man. How the hell could you compensate for that?
He's a "defensive winger", and we already have Wout as a defensive striker, whenever he's used as a nr 9.
 
I don't understand what kind of football needs to be played in order for this guy to shine.
People have been writing that he excels when his team plays a "give-and-go" style, OK...

Does this mean he has a good through ball on him, as long as it's a short pass?
I've seen no indication of it up to now.

Never seen a winger who can't beat a man. How the hell could you compensate for that?
He's a "defensive winger", and we already have Wout as a defensive striker, whenever he's used as a nr 9.
Never seen Sancho?
 
I don't understand what kind of football needs to be played in order for this guy to shine.
People have been writing that he excels when his team plays a "give-and-go" style, OK...

Does this mean he has a good through ball on him, as long as it's a short pass?
I've seen no indication of it up to now.

Never seen a winger who can't beat a man. How the hell could you compensate for that?
He's a "defensive winger", and we already have Wout as a defensive striker, whenever he's used as a nr 9.
He shines in his own "retaining-the-ball", "balance-the-team", "winding-up-opponent" style. According to some, ten Hag doesn't want him to beat a man, just like he doesn't want Weghorst to score. The fact that ten Hag (has not choice but to) start them every game suggests our manager rates them and they suit our unique style, so unqiue that no one understands.
 
Can't even judge him today, felt like we never passed him the ball.

The whole set up with Bruno and Sancho at CM is too chaotic, so silly to try that out out of the blue..
 
I don’t get it, one camp is saying he is good and the other camp says he is a one trick pony. What is it? I don’t understand how people can have such vastly different opinions on a player.
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Ill wait until he gets an overlapping RB ~ he plays with 2 underlapping RB which tends to be within his positions anyway.

Once we get an overlapping RB then Antony’s runs become much more of a problem for the opposition.

Glad he has outdone Sancho’s first season stats anyway.
 
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Alexis was easily a better footballer for us in the build up from what I remember. Super crisp passing and could beat a man.

Same as Di Maria. Worst two signings we ever made but understandably we expected huge things from players like those. Antony’s expectation is way lower we just overpaid.

Alexis is still better than Antony going on the season he’s having in France. Di Maria definitely is no comparison :lol:
 
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I don’t know how true it is but was watching one of Howson’s videos after the game and he said there’s a stat that shows Antony’s been the least effective winger in all of Europe’s top 5 leagues this season. Which sounds terrible tbh.
 
What do Ajax fans or those that watched him then think? Are you surprised he's been this bad?

Feyenoord/United fan here (half Dutch) who follows the Eredivisie about as close as the PL. This is truly one of the most bizarre transfers I've seen us doing for that amount of money. Not only was his play at Ajax nowhere near the level that United should aim for, his stats were also just plain poor in the Dutch league. Why you put 85 million quid on the table for a player that has room for potential, not going to deny that, but has proven nothing on an international level yet is beyond me.
 
That moment in the 1st half at the edge of the box where Lavia showed him the right hand side of the penalty box and still Antony turned back on his left.
 
People have already made up his mind he is a flop. People want him to play like Robben when he is not that type of a player.

The truth is ETH rates him and I can see him featuring regularly even next season.
And people judging him by his price tag.

Antony will be starting most games for us moving forward. He has work to do but we knew when we bought him that he wasn't the finished article. He has talent and has scored some brilliant goals for us so this narrative that he doesn't contribute anything doesn't make sense to me. I trust ten Hag on this one. He will continue to develop him.
 
That moment in the 1st half at the edge of the box where Lavia showed him the right hand side of the penalty box and still Antony turned back on his left.

I think I was more frustrated by the pass to Shaw on a really good counter attacking opportunity. It wasn't exactly easy but the ball just needes dropping in to Shaw's feet. Instead he smacked it at Shaw's chest. Chance gone.

He isn't going to do fullbacks on the outside. Everything about him wants to cut inside. Probably more so than I've seen in any other player. Just have to accept that for now.

But if that's the case he has to get it right when he comes inside and delivers that final cross/pass.
 
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