The “physical stuff” started with the blatant foul. That was the trigger. So yes you are being unfair. Most people would react to such a blatant attempt to clean you out.
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The “physical stuff” started with the blatant foul. That was the trigger. So yes you are being unfair. Most people would react to such a blatant attempt to clean you out.
Feel like we really missed him tonight. He's not perfect but he gives us a real outlet against the press. Right side was non-existent until we put Pellistri in.
Gets criticism but was really missed tonight. The right wing was non existent without him
Could have given us some composure in this chaotic mess today
Been banging on about his ability to keep possession of the ball allows us breathing space and to advance the team up the field. Another example tonight of us not having control without Antony in the team.
We are much worse without him.
We definitely did, he would usually be the one on the ball where Bruno was dispossessed for the first goal.
Don't even start. Antony had feck all to do with us conceding silly goal and we also didn't struggle in creating chances.
The only positive that Antony would've provided today is that Rashy would have played on his preferred left side and we would probably have scored earlier. That's more to do with Rashford than Antony.
Its true we lost control without him but we lost far more by missing Casemiro and Eriksen and Antony wouldn't have solved that.
The only positive that Antony would've provided today is that Rashy would have played on his preferred left side and we would probably have scored earlier. That's more to do with Rashford than Antony.
Its true we lost control without him but we lost far more by missing Casemiro and Eriksen and Antony wouldn't have solved that.
These niggles/illnesses that’s been happening a lot this season is frustrating. Could have done with Antony and Wan Bissaka today.
Just got to show how difficult it is to build attack from the right when this area of the pitch has been neglected for so long and our attacking play is mostly from the opposite flank.
Antony probably doesn't do a tippy tappy little flick on the wing like Bruno did to lose possession for the first goal, so I'd say there's a very strong correlation between his absence (or Bruno's presence) on the wing and conceding a silly goal.
His work in possession is key in build up. Thoroughly missed tonight as we struggled against the press
Correct.
I've said this time and time again, if you take Antony out of this team we remove pretty much our entire threat on the right. Antony is the best player at keeping the ball in tight spaces and under pressure. He provides a major outlet for this team when we are under pressure.
Is he back for the weekend?
Or its an example of Fred and garnachos deficiencies
Exactly, pellistri was only OK but offered what Antony would have
Can’t imagine the abuse he would have gotten if he was on the team sheet today and we put in the same performance. Yet here you are, bashing him nonetheless. Crazy.
Hopefully this makes folk realize how important he's for us even if he lacks the end product and stops them from piling up on him.
He's far from great from individual attacking POV, but from tactical POV he's the best option for out right wing. Starting someone there and suddenly our system got exposed tactically: lacking someone to drop to pick up the ball, even if only to hold on to it until other players can get into better positions to receive the pass. And some defensive contribution.
It wont, if you look some posts above you, his regular bashers are already back to double down on the bashing. You can't make someone see what they don't want to see.
What's our record like without him?
It feels like we drop points when he doesn't play even if all he is done is spinaroonie
It feels like we drop points when he doesn't play even if all he is done is spinaroonie
No Antony no party 
Our right wing looked empty without him.
Our right wing looked empty without him.
And will you say anything about those coming in here beating their chests in glee of how Antony was apparently what we missed in securing three points tonight.
We had no control of the game because Casemiro and Eriksen were unavailable. A player who hasn't scored in the league since september or had an assist all season in the PL is a non factor in a game that finished 2-2.
Sancho came on and did all the things Antony supposedly does on the ball and more in 30mins. He played more key passes tonight than Antony probably has all season.
Out of all our starters that were unavailable tonight Antony was clearly bottom (4th) in the pecking order.
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Fred was available, sadly.
Manager said the same thing. Fans don’t appreciate him enough but our win percentage is a good deal better when he’s playing
Fred was unavailable, now that's a good one!
I think you're misunderstanding a bit here, to be honest. Antony is really great at tracking back and disrupting the attackers, and how many times has he chased the opponent's attacker and prevented an attack similarly to how Gnonto were running at our defence for the first goal? I'm not saying it's dead cert he would have been there at the time, but to simply deny his defensive abilities and confidently say it wouldn't have mattered is also wrong.
Fred was available, sadly.
he was so shite tonight that I've typed his name so many times tonight and made the typo.Fair enough, defensively he definitely helps more and makes a difference but again if Casemiro plays we don't concede that first goal IMO, so it still less about Antony and more about other absent players.
It's funny because he gets so much criticism on here, but when he doesn't play you see his value. He is such a valuable system player to us already. Gives us a much needed presence and work rate on that right hand side, and really helps relieve the pressure from the press, which in turn gives us much better control over games.
Hopefully his stock will rise a little more after this.
Hopefully his stock will rise a little more after this.
Yup. The ball entered our box from the right side more times tonight than it would in five matches with Antony on the pitch.
Hope he's not out for long
Pellestri did perfectly fine again when he came on so I don't think it's a case we missed Antony. We just missed having somebody else there so we could move Rashford to the centre or left.
It worked for Pellestri because it's Leeds. Their tactic exposed, once they're up against a threatening tactic.
Pellistri is not even average in most attributes. Antony maybe underwhelming, but he has level and can replicate the big standard tactical requirement against any opposition.
Also Antony shooting maybe inconsistently wild, however having the ability to shoot is better than never pulling the trigger.
Starting to love this guy
, he's a shithouse but he's our shithouse.He was missed out there today, hope he's not out for too much longer
What even happened to him? Any reports on what injury he got or when he recieved it?
It just came out of the blue that he's out...
It just came out of the blue that he's out...
Understand people wanting him to be more direct but not those who can’t understand what he gives us. Firstly his work rate off the ball is superb for a wide player. We’re used to the likes of Rashford and Sancho who can only semi pressurise and nothing more. Antony is a proper pressing forward he gets in teams faces and helps us suffocate them. Secondly is his ability to retain possession which is really good. Yes he could do more in terms of hurting defences but his ability to maintain possession in tough situations is extremely helpful to controlling things.
As a forward for Manchester United he has to offer goals, assists, skill, some directness etc but we have too many who pretend he’s just doing feck all throughout games and stealing a living
As a forward for Manchester United he has to offer goals, assists, skill, some directness etc but we have too many who pretend he’s just doing feck all throughout games and stealing a living
Hopefully he's back soon. Would love to se a front 3 of Sancho - Rashford - Antony.
Finally it's great to see some support and understanding of Antony and what he brings to the team in this thread. Rather than all the negativity and bashing.
If antony plays we don't concede that first goal because he doesn't lose possession in his own half on the touchline very much, if at all.
Fair enough, defensively he definitely helps more and makes a difference but again if Casemiro plays we don't concede that first goal IMO, so it still less about Antony and more about other absent players.
His back to goal play, keeping the ball, recycling possession under a press in 1st class.
Harsh to say it worked for Pellestri because it was Leeds given he was starting in a world cup for Uruguay. He's never been given a go at United.
Antony hasn't ripped up any trees either. Haven't got a PL assist yet and it's February so all these people saying he was badly missed are going a bit OTT.
If we had started Pellestri wide right and Rashford through the middle we probably win last night. Weghorst just wasn't in the game at all.
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