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2014-15 Performances

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5.6 Season Average Rating
Appearances
35
Clean sheets
12
Goals
0
Assists
5
Yellow cards
4
Nobby style said:
Not really defending him rather laughing at the undying fanbois and their predictability.
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despite you doing the exact same in the Nani thread.

Hypocrisy, always fun.

And anyway, nobody is trying to claim one is better than the other here, just that both are now shit and have regressed badly, you're the one trying to claim Valencia is still better cause he's still here.
 
Cina said:
despite you doing the exact same in the Nani thread.

Hypocrisy, always fun.

And anyway, nobody is trying to claim one is better than the other here, just that both are now shit and have regressed badly, you're the one trying to claim Valencia is still better cause he's still here.
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Yeah, right. Whatever.
 
AngeloHenriquez said:
A height of being our player of the season, even if it is just a memory now...
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Ironically even Valencia's best (POTY) season was statistically worse than Nani's.

2011/12: Appearances Goals Assists
Nani 40 10 15
Valencia 38 6 15
United career:
Nani 230 41 74
Valencia 193 21 46

Valencia did have a few games at RB/RWB but not enough to make up such a huge gap.

TBH, the only time I really liked him was his 1st season 2009/10, when he consistently produced the goods for Rooney- and had actual variety in his crosses. I thought he shouldn't have been picked for Barcelona in the CL Final, and his POTY season was not all that great. IMO ;)
The timeline which I've put means that I think he was never the same player after the injury vs Rangers in early 2010/11, but I know most people consider his 2011/12 season to be very good...I thought he was getting very repetitive even then. I thought Nani had been a level above in the previous 18 months or so and should have been allowed to continue at the position from where he was doing considerable damage- right wing.
 
Fergie never got anything wrong, ever. Valencia has been starting under LVG because Rafael was returning from injury. Hopefully that's the end of him starting games now. The anti-footballer. Turn back Tony
 
The ripe whiff of irony abounds from you Nobby, there are Nani "fanbois" who couldn't see clearly, but you are so clearly a Valencia "fanboi" that you came in here, not to defend him, but just to attack people criticizing him as part of some imaginary Nani fanclub.

For starters I am pretty sure me and Pexbo would have had Nani, Valencia and Young out on their arses this summer, and even Cina who was like Nani's agent/mother stopped defending him ages ago, he merely pointed out the POTY comparison.
 
Goes without saying which category I would be bundled into but I would have to say Nani's best season at United was better than Valencia's.

They've both been pretty awful for ages but the reason Valencia is still around is because he's good at all the dirty work, even if he's completely forgotten how to be an attacking threat. Nani offers far little when he's also not at his best.
 
I honestly though the days of Nani vs Valencia debates are long gone but it seems that i was wrong. atm neither one of them are good enough for this club.
 
He really is a pathetic excuse of a footballer. I'm sure he is a nice bloke but I actually dislike him he is so bad.
 
Orton said:
Fergie never got anything wrong, ever. Valencia has been starting under LVG because Rafael was returning from injury. Hopefully that's the end of him starting games now. The anti-footballer. Turn back Tony
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U-Turnio Valencia
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Goes without saying which category I would be bundled into but I would have to say Nani's best season at United was better than Valencia's.

They've both been pretty awful for ages but the reason Valencia is still around is because he's good at all the dirty work, even if he's completely forgotten how to be an attacking threat. Nani offers far little when he's also not at his best.
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Agreed
 
hard to imagine nowadys what a forcce he was some seasons ago. He used his speed and power to go past defenders by will. Every defender knew he was going to use his right foot but he was just unstoppable. His crosses where accurat so that Rooney scored a lot of headers that season.

Today he is just frustrating to watch. I wonder if anyone on this planet can get him back to his best, give him the confidence back he needs to perfom. Think his days with us are numbered. Janko seems to be the better Valencia in the near future
 
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Tank.
 
Man Utd 2:1 West Ham
I thought he did well after coming on. Exactly the type of player we needed to quickly pressure West Ham's players, but it's sad that he's no longer one of the best wingers in the world. This is the exact role he should be limited to as sad as that may seem...
 
MoneyMay said:
I thought he did well after coming on. Exactly the type of player we needed to quickly pressure West Ham's players, but it's sad that he's no longer one of the best wingers in the world. This is the exact role he should be limited to as sad as that may seem...
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I agree. I found myself surprisingly okay with Valencia coming on, when normally I'd be disappointed. A good player to have in that kind of position as he has bags of pace and energy as well as being generally tidy in possession. A limited role it may be but it is a role at least.
 
This is the kind of role he should be used for from now on. If we are under the cosh just give him the ball and tell him to run it to the corner flag. He must be the best player in the league at winning corners.
 
Was the correct player to bring on under the circumstances and he did good, well he was like a fish in water in that situation.
 
Strange to say but I was relieved when he came one. When there is one thing that Tony is good at it's at keeping the ball I feel. Good cameo from him
 
Who knew that his ability to hit the defender with the ball would come in handy...
 
ottosec said:
Who knew that his ability to hit the defender with the ball would come in handy...
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This. We should save Fellaini and Valencia for our 2 subs late on in the game. Valencia to smash it into the defender's leg to get the corner and Fellaini for his corner flag ball shielding. Remember his cameo at the corner flag last season where he single-handedly wasted the stoppage time...
 
The cheer when he smacked it against the defender was funny :lol: I agree, did hold onto the ball well. Did get caught out with the ball over the top once or twice. But to do the job he was asked to do today, he did that.
 
MoneyMay said:
I thought he did well after coming on. Exactly the type of player we needed to quickly pressure West Ham's players, but it's sad that he's no longer one of the best wingers in the world. This is the exact role he should be limited to as sad as that may seem...
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It's the role that guarantees him 5 pl appearances per season, fair feck to him.
 
After seeing how much better Rafael was today, he really is not needed at this club. Bring in a specialist right-back to give Rafael some competition and while we're at it bring another top winger in.
 
At the time, I thought it was a smart sub and it proved a good one by van Gaal. Thought he gave us exactly what we needed. Good on him.
 
He's ace at taking the ball quickly into the opposition half and then slowing things down almost to half speed. This is absolute torture during the majority of the game, but in a situation like today, in which we wanted to run down the clock and keep the ball away from our goal, it was exactly what we needed.
 
Raees said:
After seeing how much better Rafael was today, he really is not needed at this club. Bring in a specialist right-back to give Rafael some competition and while we're at it bring another top winger in.
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Your excitement at Rafael's display makes you forget that he's an injury prone player. We're going to need Valencia for now.
 
His substitution was the right one, forced or not.

Shows that LVG is learning...


If nothing else Valencia adds toughness on the ball, something last weeks subs, Januzaj and especially on the 4th goal Mata and can lack.
 
Raees said:
After seeing how much better Rafael was today, he really is not needed at this club. Bring in a specialist right-back to give Rafael some competition and while we're at it bring another top winger in.
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I do agree he needs to be sold, as a winger he's not good enough but with Rafa we need a back up. There are other wingers at the club that need to be sold, I do hope in January they are and we bring someone in. Valencia coming on today was the right move for us, playing him and Di Maria on the wings really helped us, it gave protection to the FB's and gave us the balance we needed being a man down. Question now is if we had another top winger would we drop 1 striker and play 4-3-3?
I guess we'll have to wait and see, I would like to see that happen, we would be more solid and I think our 2 main strikers (RVP and Falcao) would be better if they play as the lone target man (even though they are forming a good understanding of each other).
 
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