The Independent is reporting Griezmann is concerned about our league position and wants Champions League football. It's understandable. I can't see us signing the top players in the world if we are never in the Champions League. If we don't qualify this season it means we have missed out 3 of the last 4 seasons and can't be seen as anything than a sign of a club in terminal decline on the pitch at least.
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Er...dunno, mate. Ibrahimović has the ability to bring others into play, but he's often fallen out with other forwards who're used to being main men, and he also drops into central zones that Griezmann likes - which is why he plays his best football as a False 9 (of sorts). Griezmann is proven to be an effective player with donkey (for lack of a better term, sorry) strikers who can hold a high line and bring him into play whilst not needing many touches (Mandžukić/Giroud) and faster ones who can stretch defenses vertically and horizontally - which creates room for Griezmann to exploit (Torres). Martial might be a better fit given his speed, bursts of acceleration and growing stature (he's not likely to vie for top dog status à la Zlatan - who likes it when things run through him). Tony's not really a typical Mourinho striker, though - which is why we haven't seen him as the #9 very often.
For me with Zlatan leading the line, what United need is a player with clever movement and a natural goal scoring instinct. When Zlatan drops deep, there is no penalty area goal threat. They need someone who can make runs into the space and finish when he gets there. Martial's off the ball movement is the weakest part of his game.
I agree that Griezmann plays well off a physical striker. I don't think the striker has to be a "donkey", just a physical presence to occupy the defenders which allows space for a player with clever movement. I think it would add a completely new dimension to United's attack. They certainly need it.
How is Griezmann's defensive work rate? does he press from the front like Suarez? Haven't watch him play much, and we know Zlatan isn't going to contribute much in that regard. Just a concern if Zlatan is here next year and that is a possible pair up front.
Is he any good? I can't tell much from online highlights. The stats looked terrible for him on scout nation not sure if that was an out of date video.
The positive story came out the other night and predictably less than 24 hours later we have stories with "Mourinho doesn't know where he fits in, it's the board that wants him" and "Griezmann is worried about United's league position and wants CL footbal".
That's media for you mate
Yep, It's gotta be one of the easiest gigs out there, so many stories that just take a hot story and find an angle to contradict it, hey presto! that's another column sorted with no effort.
I have not seen enough of him to be a good judge. I have heard that they see him as a future captain for Germany.
I've seen most of the competitive games he made, well at least summary and analysis.
He is a very similar player to Carrick, probably the closest one in top football there is. Great reading of the game, great range of passing, great vision, great positioning when defending. On the other side he doesn't like pressing at all. He is a very thin and very weak lad. As soon as pressing evolves he picks the first pass to a free player, mostly back to the defenders. In that respect he is pretty much the opposite of Pogba. Carrick has the same weakness of course, but i can see it being more severe with Weigl, when in the Premier League. I am pretty sure he is going to be an awesome player, but i don't know if he is quite yet ready to take such a vital position in our first 11.
I only remember Griezmann being linked with Mourinho in summer 2015 and it made sense then. Chelsea were playing 4-2-3-1 and Griezmann would be great as the middle of the three, working as hard as a midfielder while scoring as frequently as a striker. We currently play 4-3-3 to get the best out of Pogba and unless he drastically improves the tactical side of the game defensively, which he hasn't for years despite playing under a league and coaches where tactics are more heavily emphasized, then there's no way we can get the best out of him and Griezmann, which is what's happened for France.
Griezmann's marketability exploded in the past few months. If there's one thing the business guys at United know, it's how to generate money.
Heard that a lot from the media about Pogba in the summer and it wasn't true at all
I'm sure the Independent - a paper that didn't even know we were interested in Greizmann until someone else broke the news - have a direct line through to Grezmann to get his thoughts on our league position.
Acquire Me's usual peddle of bullshit returns.
As ITK as IndyKalia.
As ITK as IndyKalia.
Pogba hasn't been especially good in a midfield three recently either...
It's amazing to me how bitter people get from Acquire Me's posts. He's not obnoxious in his posting style, and his info has turned out to be good over the past year, so why all this bitterness? If you choose not to believe him, just ignore him. It's not like you're getting alerts off his posts.
He's a nice guy who politely shares information he gets. Why do you feel it's acceptable to be rude towards him?
I agree, I don't get why anyone has an issue with Acquire Me, he's a friendly guy and doesn't try to be billy big balls with his info.
You are being harsh on him man. He seems to be a nice guy and isn't egotistical about what information he may (or may not) have.
It seems a shame to break the transfer record for a player and not play him where he is most effective, having said that I believe Jose is the man to sort that out. I'm all for Greizmann coming here
Not going to lie but a midfield two off Weigl and Pogba scares me. I don't see much defensive prowess right now.
Feck the defensive prowess. Playing conservatively isn't working for us cause we can't finish for the life of us, so just try and outscore the opponent. I'd take a 6-5 victory over a 0-0 draw.
That much salt isn't good for your blood pressure
They wouldn't be in a 2, Weigl would be in Carrick's role with Pogba and Herrera ahead of him.
Then I think you're underrating Weigl's defensive capability. He's not at Carrick's peak level but not far off in every aspect of his game, some maybe superior. Not like we're getting him anyway...
We can all pretend we're in the know. He's as clueless as the rest of us.Griezmann?
But he's nothing like Carrick. He bombs forward quite a bit, he'd more likely be a Herrera alternative in our setup.
If people don't like the bits and pieces he posts, why not simply ignore it? No need to slate the guy for posting what he wants to, it's a football forum after all. Some of the abuse he receives is ridiculous.
Can we all pretend we're in the know? Wouldn't most of our predictions fall flat on their faces?
Is he as clueless as the rest of us? Hasn't he correctly predicted 3 or 4 future signings?
Where Mkhi plays now, floating off the right side of the front 3.
Such an easy story to write to fill inches and induce clicks.
Playing style wise, no he's nothing like Carrick. In term of position, he plays where Carrick does with great positional sense, movement and range of passing. So I'll say he's different but an upgrade nonetheless.
Well if you try I'm sure no one else would react the way you do.
What? Are you saying that Weigl is nothing like Carrick and that he's more similar to Herrera in our set-up? Sorry, that just seems a bizarre thing to say if you know of Julian Weigl so there's a possibility I missed something and you're talking about another player. I apologize in that case, just confused.
That's media for you mate
Yep. No one knows anything. All click bait until we get much closer.
www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/antoine-griezmanns-transfer-manchester-united-wayne-rooney-a7559996.html
Indy saying we need to sell Rooney, Fellaini, Young AND Martial to fund Griezmann. Martial to be sold to not have to pay up on the bonus clauses. Surely we could sell Smalling instead for a lot of money in this market.
Indy saying we need to sell Rooney, Fellaini, Young AND Martial to fund Griezmann. Martial to be sold to not have to pay up on the bonus clauses. Surely we could sell Smalling instead for a lot of money in this market.
Rubbish. We've already gotten 50 from Morgan and Memphis and Rooney, Fellaini and Young would at least get 30 all together. That's 80 already. That's not even taking into account the wages we'd be getting rid of with those players and the potential sales of Darmian and Smalling.
Martial will only leave if Jose doesn't want him or if he wants to leave, not because we'd need to sell him to fund a transfer.
The Martial stuff is just lazy journalism because he is out of favour atm, Mikitayrian was supposed to be gone in January when he was out of favour a few months back, no doubt it'll be someone else's turn soon.
If we can get Roooney, Schweinstegier, and Young off the wage bill, on top of Schneiderlin, and Depay already gone, then you'd be looking at a saving of around £900 k per month, more than enough to accommodate Griezmann, a couple more, & pay any Martial clauses we may have coming.
Exactly, there's no chance we'd sell Martial. It would make no sense in terms of long term planning.
Obviously he is chatting nonsense but there's no use getting wound up about it, people love the idea of a real ITK and will believe regardless of how many times its pointed out that he's as clueless as anyone else on here.
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