Anthony Martial

What do think of the (supposedly) imminent signing of Anthony Martial?


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You mean De Gea? Even if we do hold on to him that has no bearing what so ever on our attacking options same as buying a 19yo unproven potential striker who at the price would be expected to make an instant impact.

There's more than just DDG in your list which is fictional.
 
Stuart Mathieson saying LvG has scouted Martial for a year. The 'this is panic signing from clueless duo of LvG-Woody' brigade will ignore it I guess.
scouted for a whole year and pounced on, on the last day of the window despite LVG wanting to do business early and get players settled in...
 
Regular viewers of Ligue 1, could they compare Martial to Lacazette and perhaps more pertinently Nebil Fekir whom I saw play a blinder against Caen at the weekend?
 
Or the club have realised we need someone in and are willing to overpay.

I'm sure we have a long list of United quality targets and we work on them constantly so this won't be a last second find. However that doesn't mean this isn't a panic buy as it's delusional to think we've waited until the last day to get a striker

More than likely this is a panic buy because there was so much time to wrap it up (weeks and months) before. Monaco need money every year and aren't shy of selling their best players (they sold Kondogbia to Inter). If a player has been watched for a long, why not deal with his signature early ?
 
Yeah he's French .That's about it.

Well by how some is describing him he seems a bit like Bellion. He's fast, he's not very good in scoring goals, he's raw and he has potential. I was wondering what people think about him TBH. Is he worth 37m? Is he a panic buy? Will he be considered Rooney's competition or Mata's? (Januzaj seem heading to a loan)
 
We have our token Nani-esque 'next big thing' in Memphis Depay - not sure I want us to spunk so much on another...I honestly can't believe it...
 
Can someone give me a quick low down on Martial. What are his attributes and stuff? Anyone seen him play, what is his attitude like?

No because approximately 1 person here probably has actually seen him play. The rest of us probably haven't even heard of the guy.
 
My point has literally nothing to do with the Griezmann thread, which you seem to be missing. The point is to suggest this is a better deal than getting such a class player is borderline madness.

Gambling on potential is hardly madness. Spending 30m on someone like Andy Carroll is madness. A bit less than that for Robbie Keane, that is still mad. We haven't publicly seen flashes of Rooney-like brilliance from Martial but perhaps he is capable of that. As I said, Griez is the immediate solution but personally I like a nice gamble. Thats my opinion, one obviously not agreed with by many, but we'll see how it turns out.
 
And to think after a world class year of performances, Chelsea got Costa for 30mill, Arsenal got Sanchez for 30mill, and also when Chelsea got Hazard for 30-35mill, his stats were crazy

And here we are paying a fee bigger than any of those to a player with "potential", thats like paying 50mill for Depay and saying because hes the next ronaldo, that doesnt mean shit, thats why people buy young players cheap as no one knows what road they`ll go
 
scouted for a whole year and pounced on, on the last day of the window despite LVG wanting to do business early and get players settled in...
The problem with that logic is that Monaco weren't willing to sell until they fell out of the Champions League, which they did 6 days ago.
 
Regular viewers of Ligue 1, could they compare Martial to Lacazette and perhaps more pertinently Nebil Fekir whom I saw play a blinder against Caen at the weekend?
Saw plenty of them say Martial has far more talent and potential then Lacazette has. Saw Martial against Valencia in both games and said we absolutely need to be in for him because he is ridiculously talented on the ball, fast, strong, and all despite being so young. He's not as good as the others right now, because he is only 19, but I think he will be the better player of them without a doubt. Lacazette from when I've seen him is more of a poacher, not having the talent on the ball that Martial has.
 
Well by how some is describing him he seems a bit like Bellion. He's fast, he's not very good in scoring goals and has potential
No one really knows till he starts playing for United. Like any player we sign.
 
Regular viewers of Ligue 1, could they compare Martial to Lacazette and perhaps more pertinently Nebil Fekir whom I saw play a blinder against Caen at the weekend?

Fekir is a different player so I think you can only Lacazette and Martial. There is currently a big gulf between the two but simply because Lacazette is older and more mature in his game.*
In terms of pure talent, Fekir is clearly the best.
 
Don't get this attitude towards money. Nonsense to say 36m is fine because it couldn't be done for less. Yes we should go big for the players we want but at some point you have to also be reasonable. Comparing this to the Hazard one for example is nonsense really.

Also despite what everyone seems to want to think, our pool of funds is not infinite. At some point extra money you spend will hamper what else you can spend on.
It pretty much is in realistic terms.

We have a revenue over 400m without counting the sales of players, which will get further increased next season by the new EPL deal. Our wage bill is around 40% of the revenue. Add 20m of debt and other expenses and we are still talking for 150-200m pounds which we can spend each year. With Hernandez's sale our net spent is around -10m, so it is quite possible that we can spend 200m on transfers right now, and do the same next season.

The problem isn't that we're paying a lot of money, but more could that money have been spent in other players? Probably even that doesn't mean anything, considering that there is money to be spend on other players.
 
There's more than just DDG in your list which is fictional.

Taking Chicha and Januzaj out of the equasion for the sake of your supreme intelligence and awkward attention seeking wumminess, im still stuggling to see your point. Unless you have no point but are collecting post counts like milk tokens.
 
scouted for a whole year and pounced on, on the last day of the window despite LVG wanting to do business early and get players settled in...

Monaco has just recently been knocked out of CL qualifiers. Makes sense.
Just because deals are made in the last 2 days of the transfer windows it doesn't suggest they are panic purchases.
 
No one really knows till he starts playing for United. Like any player we sign.

Well if he cant score regularly in France than I cant see him scoring hattricks against the likes of Chelsea and Shitty. The EPL is much tougher than the French league
 
Thanks for stating the obvious, genius. The question is why.
it wasn't a smart reply, the story is we were caught sleeping on Pedro, but this is likely why we didn't. He is younger, more valuble and can be morphed how LVG wants position wise. He supposedly can play on the wings and a striker
 
Well by how some is describing him he seems a bit like Bellion. He's fast, he's not very good in scoring goals, he's raw and he has potential

Bellion never had that first touch.
 
Gambling on potential is hardly madness. Spending 30m on someone like Andy Carroll is madness. A bit less than that for Robbie Keane, that is still mad. We haven't publicly seen flashes of Rooney-like brilliance from Martial but perhaps he is capable of that. As I said, Griez is the immediate solution but personally I like a nice gamble. Thats my opinion, one obviously not agreed with by many, but we'll see how it turns out.

Absolutely. My concern is that we have him and Memphis. One would be great with an experienced player on the other flank. Both with a more experienced wide player to take the lead would be perfect though. Two youngsters could struggle. Hopefully he'll be great.
 
Yeah, really questions the 'business early,get players settled in' philosophy.

The problem with that logic is that Monaco weren't willing to sell until they fell out of the Champions League, which they did 6 days ago.

Monaco has just recently been knocked out of CL qualifiers. Makes sense.

er what?! So had they qualified we'd have politely moved on?! haha - come on, give me a break.
We are either in for him (in June) or not. Let's stop dancing around these small-time clubs...ffs
 
Stuart Mathieson saying LvG has scouted Martial for a year. The 'this is panic signing from clueless duo of LvG-Woody' brigade will ignore it I guess.

They'll rightly ignore it, it's even worse if he was a serious target and you waited until his price skyrocketed before buying.
 
That's not what I am saying, I just seconded the poster who lined out the reaction this forum would show if this would've been an Arsenal or Liverpool deal. And he's right. So there's a bit of hypocrisy involved here.
I don't think anyone on here has said £36m is a good deal. Most people have said they haven't even seen this guy play.

So where is the hypocrisy?
 
That's a crazy fee, has to be said. But still kind of exciting signing. Looked quality the few times I saw Monaco, only 19year old, flexible up front, could be a world beater in the future. But I really hope we don't get rid of Adnan.
 
That's not what I am saying, I just seconded the poster who lined out the reaction this forum would show if this would've been an Arsenal or Liverpool deal. And he's right. So there's a bit of hypocrisy involved here.

There is no hypocrisy. As a fan of a club, you don't let go of a chance to laugh at the expense of a rival. If this was Liverpool signing him, everyone here would be laughing whilst secretly praying he doesn't turn out to be as good as rumored.

Would the pool fans give a feck? No. Would we really think they care? No. Would we still laugh? Hell yeah.
 
er what?! So had they qualified we'd have politely moved on?! haha - come on, give me a break.
We are either in for him (in June) or not. Let's stop dancing around these small-time clubs...ffs

Because Monaco couldn't offer him CL football anymore? They're lost their CL bargaining chip. Maybe Martial wasn't too fussed about leaving just yet before they lost out on CL, then realising we want him, Monaco forced to consider selling.
 
It will be interesting to find out the real numbers. Have a feeling it will be lower than reported. Woodward is not stupid. Would expect the addons to be in the event of serious success too.
 
Well if he cant score regularly in France than I cant see him scoring hattricks against the likes of Chelsea and Shitty. The EPL is much tougher than the French league
my worry - and btw I am not against the chap himself, obviously if we sign him hope he becomes the next Ronaldo - bit for those numbers being branded about, how we are comfortable buying an utterly unproven kid rather than an established world star bewilders me...
 
I don't understand why people are so uptight and can't laugh at their own club a little every now and again. Everything has to be reasoned so that the club is flawless in there every move.
 
The club better know what it's doing here. That's the kind of fee you'd expect to land an experienced and talented International.
 
No way Griezmann can be shifted for that kind of money, nor probably a lot more.
 
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