Talk about underrating someone. He was a golden ball winner ffs and backed that up with being our best player on numerous occasions. It’s not worked out and I don’t think it ever will now, but there’s a constant need to downplay Martial on this board.
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Golden Boy, not Golden Ball.
Other winners include Alexandre Pato, Anderson, Isco, Mario Balotelli, and Renato Sanchez. Some very esteemed careers in there.
Running into trouble - over and over again.
Technically exceptional i would class as players like De Bruyne, Messi, Salah, Chiesa etc. They have the footballing brain to match their skillset - Martial doesn't.
So again, what is he good at?
I can see him staying this season. Will get plenty of game time as number 9 when Ronaldo gets a rest and it's not likely we will find a buyer for him anyway.
Keep him and go big on the striker department next summer I say.
Keep him and go big on the striker department next summer I say.
Not very much based on the last few seasons - do you see any clubs banging at the door to sign him?
Will he though? Suppose he gets 5 games and does feck all in all of them? Why wouldn't we just stick Elanga/Rashford/Bruno/Garnacho up there instead?
So Martial is good at nothing at all? If you hold that opinion why should I listen when you say he has poor technique.
sigh
masochists, the lot of them
it really isn't is it. He can finish in one type of way, finesse shot or curler. Can't drill the ball across goal. only favours certain positions in front of goal
pretty unremarkable. There is not much he actually does. quite a limited game.
exactly. However he isn't brilliant at dribbling or finishing. He can only slot the ball across he keeper or shoot from the left of the goal
Running is not one thing he is good at
I get the into trouble bit - but running, more like walking
You forgot to mention other past winners like Lionel Messi, Wayne Rooney, Cesc Fabregas, Kylian Mbappe and Sergio Aguero... to name a few. It isnt something everyone can just win. It is a big thing to win the golden boy. You clearly need to be very talented to win it.
I'm not really bothered by what you think - i'm entitled to my own opinion.
I don't hold a lot of hope for him, to be honest. Up till last season I always felt it was just about not clicking and that he would eventually come good. But I wouldn't be bothered if he was sold. If he remains here, lets hope ETH can utilise his technique well and coach the rest of decision making bit in to him. I doubt it as it seems Martial just doesn't care enough.
Martial needs selling - I think we mostly agree on that. However, we may not be able to regardless of what ETH thinks
I used to be a proud member of Martial FC, the 2 trigger points for me hitting the eject button were:
1. The game where a team mate (I think Greenwood) played a forward ball and Martial made no effort to move for it until the moment had passed, the ball was rolling out, it became obvious he was the closest player and had basically wasted the chance, then he seemed to realise how horrible it all looked and pretended to try and go for it after the fact
2. Ole's pleading screams from the stands "Anto ... run!!" while he just stood perplexed, watching the action unfold around him.
I can only hope for his and our sake that if he can't be sold, in a system where what to do when we're in possession is constantly drilled into his head, he'll not be as clueless as where to run or what to do. We all know he doesn't have the instinct, and incidentally no manager since LVG seems to have ever focused on that side of the game till ETH. One can only hope!
I used to be a proud member of Martial FC, the 2 trigger points for me hitting the eject button were:
1. The game where a team mate (I think Greenwood) played a forward ball and Martial made no effort to move for it until the moment had passed, the ball was rolling out, it became obvious he was the closest player and had basically wasted the chance, then he seemed to realise how horrible it all looked and pretended to try and go for it after the fact
2. Ole's pleading screams from the stands "Anto ... run!!" while he just stood perplexed, watching the action unfold around him.
I can only hope for his and our sake that if he can't be sold, in a system where what to do when we're in possession is constantly drilled into his head, he'll not be as clueless as where to run or what to do. We all know he doesn't have the instinct, and incidentally no manager since LVG seems to have ever focused on that side of the game till ETH. One can only hope!
Key moment for this guy, he can ether prove them wrong or do what I think he'll do NOTHING.
I feel limited, but real, sympathy for Martial. He is not a player with a "natural reading of the game", and as a teacher I feel strongly that such a thing is actually vanishingly rare, it's all about the coaching, no matter how reflective a player is. And Martial, as with several other young United attackers, looks like he's been left to figure it out for himself. Like a 12 year old told to work out Newton's laws of motion. Good luck Tony, let's see you banging in 20 a season this year, see you Monday, thanks.
I don't see why some decent coach with vision can't present a style of football which means that he should be in positions x y and z most of the time and occasionally do a few other things. He can be a cog in a machine if properly coached to do so, and he's clearly a very competent finisher.
This describes every '20/21 game.
ETH is going to unlock him, surprise of the season
He's going to absolutely smash it this season. 20 goals in all comps
He could have a resurgence but many are getting carried away here. He has been unfit and unable to beat a man or do pretty much anything useful for a while now. His finishing has cost us massively the past few years as well. Will be a masterstroke if EtH gets a song or anything notable out of him. Only positive is that his shit stint in Spain might’ve knocked him down a peg to keep him from sulking in a bit part role.
I just read from 1 of the Muppetiers sources(take it or leave it, I just give you the info) :
As some people may know I'd love this but I find it hard to see a way back for him at this stage.
Lacks the mental strength to revive his career. It’s in terminal decline and he’ll be so dire for ETH I’d expect he’ll see more game time for the reserves than the first team.
Then Pogba should have stayed. We have been trying to unlock Pogba for 5 years
He's already been unlocked - by OGS in the 20/21 season. The trouble is he couldn't keep it up. For two straight seasons.
Tonight we feast
Some twitter accounts have said that ETH is impressed with him. Lot of chit chat of him being the most impressive in first week of training.
Yes , he 's back .
Back Again......
Back Again......
If he performed at the highest level he's shown, I'm not surprised, the question is if he can do it consistently or even stay arsed
That could a be a script for Rocky VI "The Come Back".
Well with Ronaldo wanting out Martial is going to take his spot in the first team.
I've always been a fan even though he's frustrating, another chance?
I've always been a fan even though he's frustrating, another chance?
All you've done is agree with posts which shared your opinion and disagreed with the one which didn't. Question is What makes yours the right one?
Martial the solution that fixes nothing at all
Cometh the man, cometh the hour.
Time for Martial to have that 30 goal season
Didn't think he'd leave on those wages and with his wretched spell in Spain. Will be interesting to see if he can resurrect his career here under ten Hag.
That Martial FC revival
His exclusion from the team, disappointment from every manager that works with him, eye test. What makes me wrong?
Half this forum will be eating humble pie with a side of egg on their face when Martial law gets declared and he wins the golden boot whilst Donny runs the show. Rashford off the left, 15 goals, Sancho off the right 10 goals and 10 assists, Martial up top 25 goals.That Martial FC revival
It’s raining goals, hallelujah it’s raining goals, Ten Hag!
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