Think the reactions are a bit over the top. He had some bright moments yesterday, particularly in the first half. That's not to say he was good but he wasn't terrible. Showed at least as much as Sancho for instance.
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It doesn't even seem Martial cares about his own footballing career let alone the team. He looked absolutely done last night and is going the path of Benoit Assou-Ekotto of not actually liking football while having a decent career in it, but without having the dedication needed to perform consistently at the highest level.
Time for him to move on. Sort of player who will refocus once leaving the comfort zone and going through the motions. He's not good enough for a United team, he's' resigned to that fact as well with new players taking his place by doing better and isn't the sort to come on and make use of less time. He's good enough to be the main man on the left or up front elsewhere and could get up to 10-20 goals if you continually start him and teams he's up against leave more space.
I remember him linking up well in our 4-3-3 when Ole first came in, we don't really play to his strengths either. We require a higher level player to make things happen.
I remember him linking up well in our 4-3-3 when Ole first came in, we don't really play to his strengths either. We require a higher level player to make things happen.
To be honest it wouldn’t matter what Martial did yesterday, even if he had a stormer and got a hat-Trick, he’s too inconsistent and does not have the mentality of top level player. I said it two years ago, he will be sold and he will be.
I truly believe the stormers he was having was due to the coaching staff investing a lot of time in him, he seems to be that player who needs a lot of motivating.
Hopefully Arsenal buy him, he has the right mentality for them.
I truly believe the stormers he was having was due to the coaching staff investing a lot of time in him, he seems to be that player who needs a lot of motivating.
Hopefully Arsenal buy him, he has the right mentality for them.
Watching the match back and there were resounding boos in the stadium after he bottled chasing Sancho’s through ball in the second half.
And rightly so. Infuriating.
And rightly so. Infuriating.
I think we are generally on the same page, though when it comes to technical class I’d more narrowly define it in his case as close control. The adulation for him at the time was really over the top though. The Messi comparisons, calling for Rashford to be sacrificed to keep him happy, blaming his poor performances on every other player etc.
If I’m not wrong, I think the times when he made fullbacks look silly on the wing were mostly under LVG? I do think he was one of the few beneficiaries of LVG’s rigid system, and if he can sort himself out, he’d probably look very good again under a more regimented, possession-oriented system.
He actually had one or two moments, particularly the first half, of good quality. Couple of nice turns and direct runs, couple of half chances.
The biggest problem was, is, and has always been with martial is that he doesn't 'step up' when you really need him. He often goes the other way and becomes invisible. He doesn't run into space, he doesn't demand the ball, he doesn't support the other attackers. He has zero anticipation of where a ball might land, he doesn't attack crosses, he can't shoot first time, I could go on but the bottom line is his approach is often at odds with what is required and he becomes a passenger
Talented boy on the ball but the squad has started to pass him by now and I don't get the feeling he'll step up to the challenge
The biggest problem was, is, and has always been with martial is that he doesn't 'step up' when you really need him. He often goes the other way and becomes invisible. He doesn't run into space, he doesn't demand the ball, he doesn't support the other attackers. He has zero anticipation of where a ball might land, he doesn't attack crosses, he can't shoot first time, I could go on but the bottom line is his approach is often at odds with what is required and he becomes a passenger
Talented boy on the ball but the squad has started to pass him by now and I don't get the feeling he'll step up to the challenge
I'm not sure, I think no legs would affect his heading too.
Always had my doubts even during his purple patches. I struggle with players who don't have the right mentality - No matter how silky they look there will end up being issues.
He is contracted until 2024 on 250k a week though so he wont be going anywhere -Arsenal included - unless he agrees a wage cut. He really doesnt strike me as someone passionate enough about playing football to take a paycut.
He is contracted until 2024 on 250k a week though so he wont be going anywhere -Arsenal included - unless he agrees a wage cut. He really doesnt strike me as someone passionate enough about playing football to take a paycut.
He was shite last night but the worst thing was he seemed to not even care about that.
He needs a change of scene. Guy looks like he's just not motivated by playing for us anymore.
Needs to move on and rediscover his spark
Needs to move on and rediscover his spark
Where's Martial FC nowadays? 
Wanted rid of him years ago. Should have sent him to Inter when we were after Perisic. He’s absolutely conned this club into a new contract and now we’ll struggle to get him off the books. We never learn.
How he hoodwinked our fanbase for so long I will never quite understand, as dislikeable a player I can remember playing for us. Doesn’t even pretend to give a shit.
I can only imagine what it says to younger players to watch this guy half assing his way to new contracts after a few months of decent form. When you see how standards in general at the club have dropped it’s stuff like that which accelerates it. No accountability, even 100% effort isn’t a requirement. Get rid.
How he hoodwinked our fanbase for so long I will never quite understand, as dislikeable a player I can remember playing for us. Doesn’t even pretend to give a shit.
I can only imagine what it says to younger players to watch this guy half assing his way to new contracts after a few months of decent form. When you see how standards in general at the club have dropped it’s stuff like that which accelerates it. No accountability, even 100% effort isn’t a requirement. Get rid.
I said this in the match day yesterday. Normally FC till I die but last night he was piss. Two weird choices of finishes when he just needEd to open up his body and he bags 2 but nah not for him. He had one or two glimpses of quality but just wasn’t there.
On his movement, he did run around it was just always in the wrong direction. It’s all good coming deep when you’ve got people running beyond you which is what Bruno and Rashford do but at somepoint last night he surely had to think, I’m not getting the ball, They aren’t getting the ball I should maybe try something different and stop coming deep.
Was just infuriating bar a few nice moments of link up between the 3 upfront. Doesn’t look fit either. Slow and leggy.
On his movement, he did run around it was just always in the wrong direction. It’s all good coming deep when you’ve got people running beyond you which is what Bruno and Rashford do but at somepoint last night he surely had to think, I’m not getting the ball, They aren’t getting the ball I should maybe try something different and stop coming deep.
Was just infuriating bar a few nice moments of link up between the 3 upfront. Doesn’t look fit either. Slow and leggy.
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I was not one of that FC but I was a big fan of him. However enough is enough. Truth is none could defend him now given the current state.Where's Martial FC nowadays?
His problem is that our standards have got much higher of late. We've seen the clever darting runs of Ronaldo and Cavani, their intelligence and alertness, and then watch Martial trot about aimlessly hoping somebody somehow plays the ball to his feet in the box. And when he does actually get the ball in those positions, his usp, he can't sort out his feet anymore.
Should have been sold in the summer. Literally our 4th choice striker.
Should have been sold in the summer. Literally our 4th choice striker.
Could he be the next Anelka lots of talent but not enough conviction to apply it when it counts.
The difference between him and Greenwood when the latter came on was night and day. Greenwood was playing with intensity and purpose and always looking to create danger where as Martial was more than happy to stroll around and give 60% in everyhting he did.
Just sell him already. Between Ronaldo, Cavani, Rashford, Greenwood, Sancho, Pogba and even Lingard this guy wont get much playing time looking like this.
Hell, id rather see Elanga and Hannibal start ahead of him right now.
Just sell him already. Between Ronaldo, Cavani, Rashford, Greenwood, Sancho, Pogba and even Lingard this guy wont get much playing time looking like this.
Hell, id rather see Elanga and Hannibal start ahead of him right now.
He’s a quality forward option when you are playing on the break, no wonder he looked a different player when Solskjær arrived and when we play teams like City, where the game plan is to break at pace.
He is much better off playing from the left, running at defenders when the opposition stays compact instead. Horses for courses.
He is much better off playing from the left, running at defenders when the opposition stays compact instead. Horses for courses.
Anelka was a far better player. It’s not even close.
Now that’s a better comparison.
He’s not a striker. He’s slightly better coming off the left but i think it’s time he moved on. Has he put on weight too?
Hard to sell when he's on 250k. He's not getting that wage anywhere else. Can't sell if he won't leave. Before Ronaldo was signed, keeping him made sense to me. Having only Cavani and Mason as options wouldn't have been ideal.
It's a shame. I thought he was going to be a world beater when he first started playing for us.
Yeah, I don't understand why he wants to play as a #9 so much. He doesn't look good there. I just don't see a guy that wants nothing more than to score. He wants everything into his feet. It's rare to see him making many runs in behind or busting a gut to get into the 6 yard box.
He's so far off the starting line up now, and we have Rashford/Cavani to return too. I cant see him playing much at all and rightly so, was very poor last night, completely disinterested.
Genuinely not sure if there's any aspect of his game that has improved since his great first season for us?
\Just doesn't seem to have any desire to improve and his response to having some competition (Cavani last season) has been embarrassing.
Would be good for all parties if he moved on. Shame because I was a big fan a few years back and thought he'd push on - He's just clearly lost motivation to play for us and he's now 3rd/4th choice in both the LW & ST positions
\Just doesn't seem to have any desire to improve and his response to having some competition (Cavani last season) has been embarrassing.
Would be good for all parties if he moved on. Shame because I was a big fan a few years back and thought he'd push on - He's just clearly lost motivation to play for us and he's now 3rd/4th choice in both the LW & ST positions
If that was last chance saloon, then he will soon be out of the door. Starting to feel sorry for him now tbh.
Sancho is a young lad who has only just arrived. He's struggling so far but it's only early days.
Martial has been here over 7 years and has been absolutely pathetic for a long long time now. 7 goals in 12 months is a disgraceful record for a number 9 at Man Utd.
That's why the reactions for Martial and Sancho are different.
Anelka was miles better. Played for every big club in Europe (and City). Martial won't play at the top level again when he leaves.
He's going to get Ole fired, this is why Jose wanted him gone, it's taken this long for everyone to come around to it though because Jose was such a toxic twat.
I'd take Anelka over him.
He is finished. I am so glad now that we signed Ronaldo.
Cavani's injury history would mean Ole trying to play Martial in form, like he did with Jesse and Perriera.
Cavani's injury history would mean Ole trying to play Martial in form, like he did with Jesse and Perriera.
I'm just so glad we're going into a new season without having to rely on Martial as our main forward. I know that sounds harsh on him but for me he's just not a top forward player, he simply hasn't developed as we all hoped he might after his debut season. I genuinely think his time at the club is up and for the sake of his own career, he should move on!
When chasing a goal against West Ham and with Cavani and Rashford injured he still didn’t get on the pitch so how’d you work that one out? We might not see him again until December!!
If Ole keeps picking him in games that are 'easy' we will drop points and it will cost Ole his job ultimately. There's no reason to show him loyalty, this business is cut throat. He shouldn't play again this season, there's no reason for it, he offers nothing. A half fit Cavani and Rashford would do a better job. We've also got Greenwood, Elanga, and I'd play Sancho as a false 9 before thinking about giving Martial minutes again.
Its not the system, he lacks the mentality and killer instinct you need to succeed at the top level. The absoloute best we've seen him was under Ole right after the lockdown where he was running riot with defeenders game after game
He only seems to thrive when hes undisputed 1st choice and every single time we have signed competition for his spots hes regressed.
If I were him, at this point, I'd just take a bunch of PED's. Really, what does he have to lose anymore?
There needs to be a full inquest into what's happened to him. It's unfathomable.
Utterly useless. Just trots about upfront, doesn't break a sweat.
Seems to have even lost any pace and odd moment of magic he once had. Zero motivation or will to win.
Seems to have even lost any pace and odd moment of magic he once had. Zero motivation or will to win.
Said it before this guy isnt leaving, I don't know what we do with him. He is on 180k plus bonuses if reports are correct, there is nowhere he could go and get game time right now.
We saw tiny glimpses of him yesterday, but they were so fleeting compared to the moments he stood still watching the game happen around him. You can forgive poor form or missing chances, but the lack of work rate to get into the right places is just highlighted by Cavani and Ronaldo. Sancho is not at his best, but give him his dues yesterday, he looked sharper and was working hard to make it happen, it didnt but you can start to see why it will, DVB wasn't wonderful but gave it something working hard. Lingard was greedy, didnt get his head up at all, and still isn't good enough in a top performing side, but he did show at least a desire to make something happen. Martial just does not seem to know what to do.
We saw tiny glimpses of him yesterday, but they were so fleeting compared to the moments he stood still watching the game happen around him. You can forgive poor form or missing chances, but the lack of work rate to get into the right places is just highlighted by Cavani and Ronaldo. Sancho is not at his best, but give him his dues yesterday, he looked sharper and was working hard to make it happen, it didnt but you can start to see why it will, DVB wasn't wonderful but gave it something working hard. Lingard was greedy, didnt get his head up at all, and still isn't good enough in a top performing side, but he did show at least a desire to make something happen. Martial just does not seem to know what to do.
He won't start for any premier league club in any position imo.
Basic work rate, not even working extra hard, is a minimum requirement. Forget about defensive work, he doesn't do anything. I mean there has to be a minimum level of movement and involvement.
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