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What is the latest with his boot deal? When he is getting colour boots back ?
Martial is the glue for everything attack related in this club.
Whats funny? I bet you think its bruno.
For the "martial doesnt have good movement brigade" he is the current leading receptor of forward passes in the league. I always said he made smart movements but we lacked the players to find him in great positions. As we can see this season we have more players in bruno, fred and even mctominay playing balls quickly between the lines which has helped our attacking intent. Id like to think Carrick is the reason for this.
Martial is the glue for everything attack related in this club.
Whats funny? I bet you think its bruno.
Funny enough, Biesla actually said something similar about Martial and called him the most pivotal of our attackers. Well at least for the Leeds game.
Funny enough, Biesla actually said something similar about Martial and called him the most pivotal of our attackers well at least for the Leeds game.
I agree that the team need all its parts to function at 100% which is why I've never subscribed to this notion claiming that 1 player makes the whole team.Yeah, in that one game.
Against Southampton it was Cavani, against Everton in the league it was Bruno, against Leipzig at home it was Rashford.
Can't even get color boot offers. not famous enough. sack antho. sell olly.What is the latest with his boot deal? When he is getting colour boots back ?
Hmm, interestingly a lot of football pundits said that about his bad off-the-ball movements.The fact that people fail to see this says alot about their knowledge of football.
Mostly true but you can’t underestimate the fact it was on his weaker foot. He’s one of the most one footed attackers we’ve had in decades I reckon. When it becomes clear the lefty is the only choice it usually stresses him out too.
I didn't criticise him, I just said it was a bit worrying as an indicator of shared success of the sum of the parts rather than the team. More to do with his form at the minute rather than how I perceive his attitude. Something that has been pretty long standing with him at United and in contrast to his performance against Everton where he had a big hand on turning the game and direct influence in making and scoring goals, it seems you've even acknowledged that as well so not so bizarre I guess.what's 'wrong' is you thinking that 10 seconds worth of player celebrations can provide indications in to a player's attitude without knowing anything else. What's more bizarre is you criticized him for not celebrating Bruno's goal without actually making it clear what you're implying from it. Martial barely celebrated either of the two goals he scored himself in the last week (including one against Sheffield which put us in the lead)
Just because he wants to use his right foot doesn't mean he's not two footed. Being two footed is not always about having a great lace shot with the weaker foot.
He can pass, dribble, take excellent touches with his left foot but prefers to bring the ball to his right foot before shooting - which is fine because his touch and close control is exquisite.
Remind me again, which attacker can do this with his weaker foot.
What’s your issue with non English players?that airshot he did the other night against everton
if he was an english player or someone unfashionable with the eReds ala Harry Maguire or McTominay it'd be forever and never be forgotton be on the internet
You go ahead and hang on pundits words, they only talk bollocks 95% of the time. His movement in behind still has some improvements that can be made but people fail to recognise the good work he does getting into positions in between the lines helping build attacks.Hmm, interestingly a lot of football pundits said that about his bad off-the-ball movements.
I don't know whose opinions to be valued anymore
Biesla pointed out three players. McTominay, Fred and Martial.
Exactly, he especially indicated McT’s second goal which Martial produced an impossible pass even though their players at the same time made almost perfect movements and shape.
Fred also carried ball forward several times and made a really difficult reverse pass resulting our third goal. Some people here after the match still complained Fred was shit in the game because he cannot contribute to attack and pass.
It is amazing I quite often wonder people are watching different game. Well, by nature, it is common that people always have different options. It is actually good to have that kind of diversity in thinking. Hope Fred, McT, Martial and the other players continue their improvements and impressive forms to prove critics wrong and earn the support from every of us.
You would think people could look past that stereotype given the manner in which the scousers won the league last seasonEveryone has an opinion. Biesla thought James was a defensive move. Now I understand why he thinks like that. It's defending from the front. To stop them developing the attacks from that side.
Any other day McTominay may have not moved into that space and Bruno may never have passed to him for the first goal and same for the second goal. What i like about Martial is he moves the ball quickly. Players need to move it quickly or else the defense would have time to get set.
He came deep to create the space for Cavani against Everton too. Yes we play better when he plays. I don't understand this fetish for a goal scoring number 9?
Isn't it a team game?
Quality player and only getting better, might never be a 25 goal a season player but we’ve had loads of strikers who haven’t got to that level before but have been seen as key cogs in the machine.
His first season and half of last season he looked like he had more than enough in his locker to become than 25 goal a season player
You would think people could look past that stereotype given the manner in which the scousers won the league last season
Interesting anecdote. Cheers mateI remember Gullit saying that when he came to Chelsea he started playing as a sweeper and when the ball was kicked by the opposition keeper the CF of that side and the opposing CB was supposed to go up together and the CF would try to flick is past the CB. Gullit just dropped back and the opposing CF just flicked the ball to him. They were surprised that he did not go with the CF to contest the ball. This is the stereotype that you mentioned. In UK a CF has to be someone who has to score 20 plus goals every season. I do not care if he never scores a goal so long as he contributes to our victories.
Exactly. Too many people, especially our fans, have outdated misconceptions about what each player on the pitch should be doing. United has always had those talismanic strikers so it’s to be expected, but hardly any of those players are around these days that can both score 30 goals a year and also provide creativity and mobility along the front line.I remember Gullit saying that when he came to Chelsea he started playing as a sweeper and when the ball was kicked by the opposition keeper the CF of that side and the opposing CB was supposed to go up together and the CF would try to flick is past the CB. Gullit just dropped back and the opposing CF just flicked the ball to him. They were surprised that he did not go with the CF to contest the ball. This is the stereotype that you mentioned. In UK a CF has to be someone who has to score 20 plus goals every season. I do not care if he never scores a goal so long as he contributes to our victories.
Its why he is my favorite player at the club. What he does for the team no one else can. Before Cavani arrived there was no other attacker that can start attack's in the middle without getting dispossessed so easily. That ability to either lay it off or come deep for the ball as the trigger for our other attackers to get forward is irreplaceable. He is a very complete player when he gets involved. Its why he has a basic understanding with all our attackers.The good thing a bout him he seems to have a very good understanding with virtually all the other attackers in the club. His game never seems to be detrimental to any other player. It's a sign of a proper player.
He's not a typical number 9. More of a 9 and half. The closest player I can think of is Benzema. His back to goal okay is very underrated. Comes deep, gets the ball with his back to goal, turning his man and launching an attack. You often see like three other attackers running off him. I think peoole underestimate how important that quality is to our play.
I know people are clamouring for Haaland and don't get me wrong, Haaland is a amazing player. But imo, Haaland is not in Martial's class with his back to goal or in the third quarter of the pitch. Haaland is at his best running on to the ball. With Haaland, the team will face a lot of the problems we had with Lukaku imo.
Exactly. Too many people, especially our fans, have outdated misconceptions about what each player on the pitch should be doing. United has always had those talismanic strikers so it’s to be expected, but hardly any of those players are around these days that can both score 30 goals a year and also provide creativity and mobility along the front line.
Martial without scoring goals still provides an excellent focal point and ability to retain possession that is vital in instense games, and he also is generally a very good finisher. His biggest weakness has always been his instincts inside the box without the ball, but even without that he’s a very good 9
It's outdated to score goals? Goals that win games or give you the lead?
It doesn't matter who score as long as the team score. It's an outdated thing to say the number 9 or who kicks off the match has to score the most number of goals.
The number 9 is the closest to the opposition's goal, he should be the one who scores the most. Just common sense. It's a basic expectation. Just because we have a player who hasn't lived up to the hype, we can't abandon common sense.
He will dodge the question of course.What about Firmino?
The number 9 is the closest to the opposition's goal, he should be the one who scores the most. Just common sense. It's a basic expectation. Just because we have a player who hasn't lived up to the hype, we can't abandon common sense.
In the past that was almost always the case. However as time goes on there are more and more teams preferring strikers who may score a bit less but who enable the team as a whole to score more. We ourselves were in that position when we dropped Ruud (arguably the best pure #9 in the world at that time) for Saha. Saha obviously was never going to score as many goals as Ruud would, but he worked better with our other attackers and ultimately we scored more goals and were more successful because of it.The number 9 is the closest to the opposition's goal, he should be the one who scores the most. Just common sense. It's a basic expectation. Just because we have a player who hasn't lived up to the hype, we can't abandon common sense.