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Don't be so sensitive.I was purely looking for opinions. I don't appreciate your first reply because its not needed, I never try to make people look stupid on here. It's sad. Be better.
Don't be so sensitive.I was purely looking for opinions. I don't appreciate your first reply because its not needed, I never try to make people look stupid on here. It's sad. Be better.
He's proved me wrong this season. Didn't think he had it in him. Great stuff from the lad. Long may it last!
ImproveDon't be so sensitive.
Do I think he can be the best striker in the league, like we've had before? Maybe, but i'm not convinced right now. That's why i link him more to the likes of Saha, or Chicharito if you like. I think he can do very well, but simply am not sure if he will hit that next level where you can seriously make a case for him being the best striker in the league.
Then that's fair and I respect your opinion. I hope I'm proved wrong.On current form, he is the best in the league. 17 goals and 7 assists for him this season, for a team playing with alot less talent than previous United strikers.
Comparing him to Chicarito is not right. He is a completely different player. Martial offers hold up play, link up play, dribbling, finishing and even world class goals.
You will struggle to find a better all rounded striker in his age bracket in Europe, let alone the PL.
Then that's fair and I respect your opinion. I hope I'm proved wrong.
Just to note though, I'm not actually directly comparing him to these players. I'm just stating players who I would say were good forwards here, just perhaps a tier below the top, top strikers we've had.
Donkey post! Won’t even bother.
i like how you present no reason and then ask others to elaborate if they disagree
Comparing him since 2015 to strikers when he has played as a winger? Just admit you’re post is clueless.Nope and I never said I did expect him to do that.
I'm judging the player overall from what we've seen of him since 2015. I think he's going to be a very good player, absolutely can play a big part in a title challenge. Do I think he can be the best striker in the league, like we've had before? Maybe, but i'm not convinced right now. That's why i link him more to the likes of Saha, or Chicharito if you like. I think he can do very well, but simply am not sure if he will hit that next level where you can seriously make a case for him being the best striker in the league.
I was purely looking for opinions. I don't appreciate your first reply because its not needed, I never try to make people look stupid on here. It's sad. Be better. If you're confused by what people mean, ask them don't mock them. Or you'll end up like @UncleBob
He's played in various positions over the front 3. I'm judging the player on that, plus his one season as a regular striker.Comparing him since 2015 to strikers when he has played as a winger? Just admit you’re post is clueless.
Rooney, RVN all took penalties for United. Martial scored 17 without taking any in the league although we had 14 penalties in the league this year which is a record. I wonder how the perception of him would change if we allowed him to take a good portion of that.He's played in various positions over the front 3. I'm judging the player on that, plus his one season as a regular striker.
I can gain an opinion on a player on 5 seasons, just as i've gained an opinion on Bruno for watching him for just a few months.
I've not said Martial's not done well, never. I've said it seems to me that he might not reach that top brass. Even then, I've not said he definitely won't.
If you think my post is clueless then okay, at least i presume that is what "you are post is clueless" means. You clearly don't have any opinion of your own to offer so there's clearly not any kind of back and forth to be had.
I mean yes is the obvious answer. Still Rashford is important for how we want to play. Greenwood and Sancho are not direct players but more technical. Rashford is raw power and directness which provides balance. Hopefully we rest Rashford till September because he hasn’t looked the same after the restart due to fatigue. Ole is overplaying him.If Martial has a better player than Rashford would he get better?
I never compared him to them. I’m talking about what he’ll become here. I said I’m not sure he’ll reach that level in the future but that I hope I’m wrong.Rooney, RVN all took penalties for United. Martial scored 17 without taking any in the league although we had 14 penalties in the league this year which is a record. I wonder how the perception of him would change if we allowed him to take a good portion of that.
it’s also nonsensical to compare him since he arrived in 2015 to our greatest strikers over the years when he has only played as a striker for 1 season out of 5. You might as well add Ronaldo to the conversation for it to seem more plausible.
I criticized your post because it has no context which is most of the nonsense I usually see when judging martial.
I never compared him to them. I’m talking about what he’ll become here. I said I’m not sure he’ll reach that level in the future but that I hope I’m wrong.
I hope he scores 20+ goals in the league next season. But I’m not sure Martial is a player where I can absolutely bank on it happening, like you could with Aguero or Kane when fully fit. I’m not saying he cannot. I’m just saying I wouldn’t put money on it.
How do people feel about him as our main Striker next season then?
Good goal scoring season this season sure, first season as our main #9.
I'm somewhere in the middle. Thinking ruthlessly "title challenge next year" - I think we at least need someone competing with him. I'm not convinced we will title challenge with him as our starting striker in all 38 PL games. Ability-wise, I would place him around the pre-injury-prone Louis Saha level, rather than Nistelrooy, Cole, Rooney, Cantona etc.
Thoughts? Feel free to disagree with reason why.
How do people feel about him as our main Striker next season then?
Good goal scoring season this season sure, first season as our main #9.
I'm somewhere in the middle. Thinking ruthlessly "title challenge next year" - I think we at least need someone competing with him. I'm not convinced we will title challenge with him as our starting striker in all 38 PL games. Ability-wise, I would place him around the pre-injury-prone Louis Saha level, rather than Nistelrooy, Cole, Rooney, Cantona etc.
Thoughts? Feel free to disagree with reason why.
I never compared him to them. I’m talking about what he’ll become here. I said I’m not sure he’ll reach that level in the future but that I hope I’m wrong.
I hope he scores 20+ goals in the league next season. But I’m not sure Martial is a player where I can absolutely bank on it happening, like you could with Aguero or Kane when fully fit. I’m not saying he cannot. I’m just saying I wouldn’t put money on it.
I'm still unnecessarily upset that Felix won over Sancho.However to give you a more serious response, his actual ability is up there with the very best. He was voted the best teenager in the world, sharing company with the likes of Mbappe, Pogba, Sterling, De Ligt and Joao Felix since 2013. He was also the most expensive teenager in the world when we signed him for a reason. The ability is never in question, the question was whether he'd adapt to being a striker after being shifted out wide for a number of years and the signs from his first season suggest that he is adapting and will continue to adapt rather well.
He's definitely better than Saha.How do people feel about him as our main Striker next season then?
Good goal scoring season this season sure, first season as our main #9.
I'm somewhere in the middle. Thinking ruthlessly "title challenge next year" - I think we at least need someone competing with him. I'm not convinced we will title challenge with him as our starting striker in all 38 PL games. Ability-wise, I would place him around the pre-injury-prone Louis Saha level, rather than Nistelrooy, Cole, Rooney, Cantona etc.
Thoughts? Feel free to disagree with reason why.
I'm happy with him as our #9 going into next season. For me, he's not only been our most consistent attacker, but has been our best player in general this season.How do people feel about him as our main Striker next season then?
Good goal scoring season this season sure, first season as our main #9.
I'm somewhere in the middle. Thinking ruthlessly "title challenge next year" - I think we at least need someone competing with him. I'm not convinced we will title challenge with him as our starting striker in all 38 PL games. Ability-wise, I would place him around the pre-injury-prone Louis Saha level, rather than Nistelrooy, Cole, Rooney, Cantona etc.
Thoughts? Feel free to disagree with reason why.
He's possibly our best player and I'm absolutely convinced that he can become one of the best strikers in the world. So, yes I'm very confident in him being our starting CF for the next few years at the least.How do people feel about him as our main Striker next season then?
Good goal scoring season this season sure, first season as our main #9.
I'm somewhere in the middle. Thinking ruthlessly "title challenge next year" - I think we at least need someone competing with him. I'm not convinced we will title challenge with him as our starting striker in all 38 PL games. Ability-wise, I would place him around the pre-injury-prone Louis Saha level, rather than Nistelrooy, Cole, Rooney, Cantona etc.
Thoughts? Feel free to disagree with reason why.
I don't think its a coincidence that he started making the runs behind and between the center backs as soon as he realised that there were midfielders behind him who can spot those passes and play him through. That was the only thing working in attack in the Leicester game and won the decisive penalty. I'm excited to see what else he can bring with another summer and a training camp under Solskjær.
He was making those runs before but wasn't spotted. Maybe he makes them more often but it's not as if he wasn't making them.
Back to back monthsNominated for PL player and goal of the month
Our problem is no longer our attack. If we cant compete for the best honors it would be our defense then midfield. Those guys up top ourscored most of the best attacks in the world. Would even be more if Rashford kept taking penalties instead of Bruno.It's not always easy to understand the amount of stick Martial is getting.
There's always an issue no matter how he performs.
After a season where he's, easily as well, been one of our best and most important players, and shown why Ole was right to trust the players available instead of trying to spend big to replace Lukaku. There is still the notion being thrown around to discredit his performances that Martial isn't good enough if we want to challenge for the title, and "Greenwood will replace him shortly".
At what point do people wake up and take notice of how Liverpool won the league without a traditional striker, Firmino barely scored a fecking goal and yet Manchester United, with a trio that outscored Mane, Salah and Firminio, are desperate for a 25+ goals traditional striker in order to mount a title challenge?
What we need to do is improve the working conditions for Rashford, Martial, Greenwood and hopefully Sancho. So that we don't find ourselves relying on a centre midfield of Fred, Pereira and Lingard ever again.
Don Hutchinson, the dumb fecker who hates Martial. He is perhaps the least intelligent pundit out there with his repeated cliches. Imagine been worse than Tim Sherwood, Craig Burley and Dion Dublin.
The disrespect for international epl viewers having these pundits on TV.
Nearly everyone on ESPN is a bit clueless.Don Hutchinson, the dumb fecker who hates Martial. He is perhaps the least intelligent pundit out there with his repeated cliches. Imagine been worse than Tim Sherwood, Craig Burley and Dion Dublin.
The disrespect for international epl viewers having these pundits on TV.
Can't remember the exact names but there were a whole lot of weirdos shitting on him that summer it looked like he might be pushed out by Jose after daring to leave the meaningless US preseason/PR tour to go back home for the birth of his son.Does anyone remember that guy on the caf who hated Martial because he was barely in his 20’s and had 2-3 relationships already and attributed his poor form under Jose to “having sex on the brain too much”?