I don't think Mourinho benches him for a bad performance. He has never really rated Martial, he is never really been a grafter which is what Mourinho looks for in his players. I always knew Martial would be replaced and Sanchez is the ideal Mourinho player(mixture of graft and skill).
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I see we're back to the Mourinho doesn't rate Martial again.
He must think Rashford is the devil.
He must think Rashford is the devil.
What, letting Dembele then Dier press high up the field?
Anyway, it looks like he's been dropped so Jose wasn't happy with something either. And I really don't want to hang out in the Martial performance thread. I've seen how this place gets...
I don't see how Martial contributed to us conceding the first goal.
Our midfield got overrun because of two reasons,
1. we conceded very early and had to chase the game which was the completely opposite of what the players had trained for that particular match.
2. our passing against any half decent side who press high up is very poor. Our players panic and resort to hoofing everything.
and no amount Martial running around like a headless chicken would have helped our midfield.
Letting opponents press? Spurs tactics aren't Jose's job you know.What, letting Dembele then Dier press high up the field?
Anyway, it looks like he's been dropped so Jose wasn't happy with something either. I really don't want to hang out in the Martial performance thread. I've seen how this place gets...
With content like that you may as well. If your argument is "Jose wasnt happy so I'm glad he's dropped" then that's pretty weak. If it stems from Martial a forward not having dropped in to do some sort of magical defensive job, then it's even worse. I hope you didn't expect Sanchez also to help us win the midfield battle. It's a bit much to expect of attackers anyway. The intelligent thing to do would be to play a three man midfield to, you know, do midfield work.
I don't think Martial is at that level, he will probably go to a club like Sevilla before making the step up like De Bruyne did.
So was I talking out of my arse..
Hardly. They can't afford him. Even if jose say sell him, ed would sell him only for 60 mil minimum
One game he is dropped and people started about selling him
The game is crying out for the lad. Times like this I miss Sir Alex so much, and his great man management....
Who would pay £60m for him? I'm sure not even United would anymore.
I look at it this way, pretend Martial was playing for another club, would you be looking at his performances for United this season and last season and be like
"this is a player we need to sign"?I wouldn't. Rival fans don't either, he's barely mentioned - Main thing people like about Martial is his youth, Nani for me though showed more promise at 22.
People talking about selling Martial God almighty Jose has really done some brainwashing on some.
God almighty Jose has really done some brainwashing on some.Btw liverpool and arsenal fans are crying for him, ffs. Fans who don't rate any of our playersWho would pay £60m for him? I'm sure not even United would anymore.
I look at it this way, pretend Martial was playing for another club, would you be looking at his performances for United this season and last season and be like
I wouldn't. Rival fans don't either, he's barely mentioned - Main thing people like about Martial is his youth, but Nani showed more promise at 22.
Martial could have prevented such an aggressive press from Dembele and Dier if he popped up behind them once in a while.I don't know what your are talking about in this paragraph. I've explained why wasn't happy with his performance and made a post about straight after the Spurs game. Now Jose is has dropped him, maybe that is because of what I saw or maybe something totally different.
And no, moving into dangerous areas to stifle the oppositions pressing game is not doing a 'magical defensive job'. But yes, a three man midfield would have done a better job.
Did you ever read rawk? They hate everything with us. Henderson is better than pogba, lukaku is shit, rashford is worse than origi , jose is a bad coach, etc.. but they all want martial. Go and read
You was the one who said it, so prove it.
If you post a thread where the collective voice on the Liverpool forum is 'Martial is great'
and 'wish Martial was at Liverpool' (not just 1 or 2 members) i'll click on it and read it, I'm not going searching on there though.Some idiots are back.
I cannot understand why you have let off Lingard lightly. Lingard is our number 10 and he is directly in behind Dembele and Dier. It was his job to press them, if Lingard had half a football brain he'd have made it a three man midfield by dropping deep instead he was running around like a headless chicken. If Martial had drifted in like you say he should have he'd be exposing Valencia. Of all the criticisms of Martial I have read in this thread your's is the silliest.
I don't know what your are talking about in this paragraph. I've explained why wasn't happy with his performance and made a post about straight after the Spurs game. Now Jose is has dropped him, maybe that is because of what I saw or maybe something totally different.
And no, moving into dangerous areas to stifle the oppositions pressing game is not doing a 'magical defensive job'. But yes, a three man midfield would have done a better job.
He might well have to compete against Lukaku up front now as Sanchez will occupy the left hand side.
Of course, they had no hole to come out of as Martial was performing great the last month, but one bad game (nevermind the fact that the whole team played like shit) and the little weasels come out of their hole again. It's kind of adorable actually.
It's going to be interesting how things play out. I personally think Sanchez is incredible on the left wing, but the question is whether we should have one incredible player on the left wing and an average one on the right or if we should keep Martial in his comfort zone and have Sanchez moved out to the right where he is still above-average to say the least.
Yep, the same names every time.
Will be interesting to see how effective he can be on the right.
Or put sanchez on no10. And mata on the right. Martial-sanchez- mata is my perfect combination.
But i think that lw position is his now. What now for martial , i don't know.
I hope not. He can play as a no 10 can Sanchez. Plus he wasn't stuck on the left. Seems to be we're playing a fluid three behind Rom. Sanchez is a short termer.
Jose would be doing a disservice to the club by ignoring a young talented attacking player.
If I were Martial, I would take a deep breath, and start doing things all over again. He might not think it's fair, but that's the way it is with this manager. Work harder than ever, and whenever you get a chance as a sub, come on and do your best as he was in the beginning. That's the best advice I think anyone could give him imho.
His form didnt deserve to be instant moved from LW, still think there is a way for him to be included in those 2/3 positions behind striker.
Might have to start doing some extra training and make that position his. Interesting to see he went to the right and Marcus went over to the left. Was roasting one of their players just at the end of the match with those quick feet
State of this thread.
Martial has been a consistent starter for about 3 continuous months with Rashford becoming nothing more than a bench player for him and he has delivered perfectly. He got benched for one game and all the talks about Mourinho not rating him and he'll get sold rise again, like seriously ? Is Pogba going to be sold too and not rated by Mourinho ?
Take a grip.
Martial has been a consistent starter for about 3 continuous months with Rashford becoming nothing more than a bench player for him and he has delivered perfectly. He got benched for one game and all the talks about Mourinho not rating him and he'll get sold rise again, like seriously ? Is Pogba going to be sold too and not rated by Mourinho ?
Take a grip.
I believe if Mourinho gives him fair opportunity to compete with Lukaku up top, he can develop into very good striker it would also benefit Lukaku to have some genuine competition for his place.
State of this thread.
Martial has been a consistent starter for about 3 continuous months with Rashford becoming nothing more than a bench player for him and he has delivered perfectly. He got benched for one game and all the talks about Mourinho not rating him and he'll get sold rise again, like seriously ? Is Pogba going to be sold too and not rated by Mourinho ?
Take a grip.
Its very odd
Want to see that front 3 with him as the striker more often. Lukaku scored today so keeps his spot, but he easily could have lost his spot for this game after the Spurs game, and with Sanchez there now, nobody is safe from being dropped IMO because he's the star of the team now. But Martial will be fine long term. Should probably have had an assist today when he set Sanchez up too
You was the one who said it, so prove it.
If you post a thread where the collective voice on the Liverpool forum is 'Martial is great'
Brother, someone posted a shit load of quotes from Tottenham fans who were desperate for Martial. You might want to look it up, it's on this thread itself.
He'll be alright as long as he keeps working and make sure his attitude stays in check. Keep calm and carry on etc.
Jose wanted to make his point today and he did I believe. If he were totally off with him, he probably wouldn't have been included in the squad whatsoever. Anyway we will see.
I'm curious to see him play more with Sanchez. They could be devastating together. I'll have to dream about that, as I don't think Jose would be interested...
Ideal thing IMO would be to play Martial through the middle, sort of as a second striker behind Lukaku and Sanchez to the left. Or both Sanchez and Martial switching between the left and middle. Neither should be pushed to the right wing. Mata is perfect for the right side. The weakest link has been Lingard and he should be the one to make way.
And also not sign extension.
Please
Why wouldn't he sign an extension if he got offered one? Or am I misunderstanding your post?Doesn't matter.
I think his best position is in another team.
Just kidding! Ideally him on the left along with Alexis buzzing around behind the striker. I really don't want Alexis dropping so deep, keep him high so he can do damage and with Martial on the left, Alexis can feed him in behind.
Just kidding! Ideally him on the left along with Alexis buzzing around behind the striker. I really don't want Alexis dropping so deep, keep him high so he can do damage and with Martial on the left, Alexis can feed him in behind.
All I am saying is he may not extend his contract if he's not a starter. He'd rather play for a smaller club than rot on the bench. We'll see how he reacts.Please
Doesn't matter.
I'm a huge fan of Martial, and I dispute the suggestion he's lazy, but he doesn't help himself at times.
There was a moment towards the end of the game where Huddersfield were on the break and Sanchez made up over ten yards on him, got past him, and nearly made a tackle.
Mourinho must have been stood about 10 yards away from it all.
There was a moment towards the end of the game where Huddersfield were on the break and Sanchez made up over ten yards on him, got past him, and nearly made a tackle.
Mourinho must have been stood about 10 yards away from it all.
Many people have been critical of Martial, so don't make out this as just happened because he's been dropped, i posted a few days ago he should be dropped.
He's had his critics from United fans/pundits and managers this season (even whilst scoring), so instead of making out his critics are "idiots" maybe 1 or 2 should look at yourself and wonder whether the 'praise' he's been getting is warranted, even games he's been scoring in to make people go <---- many comments on here from those games was he had a poor game even from people who are fans of his.
He's had his critics from United fans/pundits and managers this season (even whilst scoring), so instead of making out his critics are "idiots" maybe 1 or 2 should look at yourself and wonder whether the 'praise' he's been getting is warranted, even games he's been scoring in to make people go
<---- many comments on here from those games was he had a poor game even from people who are fans of his.
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