This kid is basically our only striking threat and he's feeding off scraps. And also because he has useless Wayne next to him he has more than one Leicester defender on him as Rooney is no threat to them whatsoever.
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Things just weren't coming off for him but there were sparks of his ability, albeit not a fan of him on that right side.
He was rubbish. Memphis wasnt great, but he did more in his little cameo than martial. Young offered more despite being crap.
He is our best striker.. but he did nothing today.
He is our best striker.. but he did nothing today.
Worst game yet probably.
I only saw the second half but Memphis didn't do anything, neither did Young. Martial probably was no better but the whole team sucked in the 2nd half.
Feel for the lad, has no one on his wavelength when in attack.
He put a ball in that found Mata in space inside the box and got into a goal scoring position where he hit it over the bar.
Not much, not perfect, but 2 chances..
Martial on the other hand... did nothing. Had a poor game. Happens.
At one point we had a counter on, and rather than take his man on and cross or shoot, when he was on the wing he cuts inside and kills it dead. It seems its not just the system, the attacking player are just not doing their job as well.
Judging by how you explained he would have to dribble in that case too which isn't safest option either. He is also not known for his crossing technique so again that wouldn't be his job to do.
Martial's trying to do too much because he simply isn't get the service. More often than not, his goals will come from him taking on 2 or 3 players, but he shouldn't have to do that. It's a big part of why Rooney, and all of our other attacking players who haven't got that ability to beat 2/3 players (i.e. Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo) don't score, because we're asking them to do too much when they get the ball.
Regardless of that, his decision making was poor for the most part and he's very reluctant to try anything these days either. Has to be the van Gaal effect.
Amazing that two posts within a matter of seconds with one saying that he is trying too much stuff and the other saying that he isn't trying too many things because of the Van Gaal effect 
I am starting to think that the left wing is actually the best position for him, if we can get a quality striker then Martial would probably be shifted to the left.
He was very good in the period between Leicester's goal and half time. He was making things happen, but Young kept fecking up the through balls behind their defense, which really pissed me off. They were relatively easy passes.
He wasn't very good in the second half, but our whole play was slower, for some reason. The lack of urgency in our game cripples Martial more than others.
He wasn't very good in the second half, but our whole play was slower, for some reason. The lack of urgency in our game cripples Martial more than others.
He's been van Gaalised.
It helps when your teammates are able to make things happen. Mata, despite his stats, is very underwhelming, Young is devoid of creativity, Memphis has the legs of a 32 year old (as in slow in everything he does) and Rooney...nuff said.
Much like memphis and januzaj, I think hes been "philosophied". They all came into the team looking exciting, but are taking less risks now and being more "safe" with the ball.
He was our only threat in the first half but faded in the second, playing with Rooney and Mata must have him losing the will to live as there's rarely ever a forward pass coming from them and neither can run with the ball so he's isolated.
I thought he was crap today, kept losing control too easy.
Get him Harry Kane to partner him in the summer.
He's more of a creator than an out and out goal scorer at the moment.
He's more of a creator than an out and out goal scorer at the moment.
I like the fact that he tries too make things happen. Posters moan on here that we pass backwards or don't take risks then criticise Martial for running down blind alleys or giving the ball away.
I would prefer him to run at defenders and lose it most times, but that one time leave him for dead and create something like he did on the byline against Simpson. His pace and directness actually opens the game up for us, and was only time Leicester were out of position.
When we have the ball you can literally predict 9 times out of 10 what the next move or pass will be, at least Martial provides something different and can be unpredictable.
I would prefer him to run at defenders and lose it most times, but that one time leave him for dead and create something like he did on the byline against Simpson. His pace and directness actually opens the game up for us, and was only time Leicester were out of position.
When we have the ball you can literally predict 9 times out of 10 what the next move or pass will be, at least Martial provides something different and can be unpredictable.
We are slowly sucking the footballing life out of him. Soon, we will start calling him average or overhyped like what happened to Januzaj.
Just kidding...but he does not look like himself anymore. He looks fat and more uglier.
Just kidding...but he does not look like himself anymore. He looks fat and more uglier.
Amazing that two posts within a matter of seconds with one saying that he is trying too much stuff and the other saying that he isn't trying too many things because of the Van Gaal effect
It's probably a result of just having different ideas of football. I like aggressive, high tempo football with players showing a willingness to take risks. I love winning more than anything, but prefer it to be done that way. I understand it's not always possible and wouldn't play that way at all times as a manager as well, but generally, it pisses me off how careful our players are, especially those who aren't supposed to be.
EDIT: That's why I prefer Luis Enrique's Barca to Pep's.
Depends what sort of football we play and who the other front 6 players are.
Sometimes you're better off having a 9 who likes to peel wide in order to run at players and has the benefit of leaving the middle open at times for other players to attack that space or just leave the CBs with nobody to mark until you've gotten in behind a bit wider and they're in a panic anyways.
I agree that under Van Gaal, if the other team sits back and we play 4 at the back, Martial might perform best at LW. However, the same is true for Memphis and maybe even Young, so that's a bit of a problem.
Martial doesn't appear to have much pace.
I think someone joked earlier.
When he first came to MUFC, he couldn't understand anything LVG was saying, so he played on instinct and scored goals.
Now that he has understood LVG's philosophy, he has now stopped scoring and prefers to play safe.
Some of you just come to your own conclusions and ignore the truth.
Martial is still playing how he always did, he dribbled more than enough times today. Our biggest issue is the fact that we don't get him on the ball enough.
It sounds silly to say cos he is so young, but our attacking play should be geared to maximise the most out of him.
Martial is still playing how he always did, he dribbled more than enough times today. Our biggest issue is the fact that we don't get him on the ball enough.
It sounds silly to say cos he is so young, but our attacking play should be geared to maximise the most out of him.
Well that's not true. Probably one of the top 3 fastest players on the team along with Shaw and Smalling.
What? Go back and watch him blow past Simpson like he isn't even there then.
Anyway, I thought he was average. Did some good things but also tried to do too much at times. Needs to work on his decision making obviously, but he's young so that will happen. Was infuriating that Young kept over-hitting simple passes through to him.
I thought he played well.
I did too. I thought that if we were going to create anything, it was gonna come from him down our right side. He was the only one of our 'attackers' that I got excited about when he got the ball.
To be fair, he does look slow. He might be running at 100 mph but his technique gives the illusion he's jogging.
Yeah I can understand that. He kind of glides past people.
He's beginning to look frustrated and you can see that by the number of fouls he's giving away. Needs a goal and a great game pretty soon. Feel for him. He's playing with dross.
My favourite moment was when he took the ball, and he had Young on the left in acres of space and after second or two he was like, feck that I am not doing that shit passing him again and tried to dribble two players himself. Even if he lost the ball I still liked it because he is obviously fed up with both Young and our style of play. Of course van Gaal will criticise him for that though.
looks like this bubble has now burst...
In a perfect world he wouldn't be starting every game. Teams are already doubling up on him and he and Rooney are never near each other for support. Shame we can't bring him on the last 15 minutes when games are stretched and defenses are tired.
Think he needs to go back on the left. There's always 3 men on him when he's in the middle.
Yeah and Memphis needs a run upfront anyway but for it to have any remote chance of success it would have to be in the absence of Rooney and Mata. If we had a good manager, after what we saw of Memphis at Watford, we'd have seen;
------------Memphis-------
Martial--Herrera*--Lingard
as an attacking quad more often.
*I know he is injured but even when he attains full fitness he will still spend a few weeks out getting back the "match rhythm" that Rooney doesn't seem to need. I'd even try Perreira in the hole, what would we lose either way because we know we won't be getting anything from Rooney anyway!
Atm Martial and Memphis could do with exchanging roles for a sustained period, if only to maintain their confidence, because Memphis has looked better through the middle whilst Martial excels when he has isolated the full back. It's a tactic I feel we should try.
I feel sorry for him because although he didn't really offer a lot up top for us he just wasn't getting any decent service from those in behind him.
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