The kind of deal we should be making 2-3 times every season. Squad player or academy player who has had their time in the team but won't make it here and needs to move on.
Anthony Elanga | signs for Forest
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He was on loan and incomparable anyway due to his age. I was making the point that we rarely, if ever, sign players of Elanga’s profile so it’s impossible to guess what price we would be quoted.
There’s no youth team thats able to churn out 2/3 £15m players every season.
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Ye that’s true. But my point was because of who we are we get quoted ridiculous prices compared to other teams.
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He has worked incredibly hard at United, I remember the other pre season where he filmed himself in the gym, looked like an absolute machine.
Its football though not MMA.
£15m is a good deal for both parties. He’s got a solid career ahead of him for sure, but it was never going to be at United.
I didn't mean players from the academy alone. If we had been more cynical about our transfers and sold players who weren't good enough at the right time, we could have churned out some decent fees for the likes of Lingard, Tuanzebe, Bailly, Telles (looks like we might do anyways), Jones, Rojo, Angel Gomes to name a few recent examples of players who we didn't (or haven't yet) got a single cent for.
Good deal for all the parties. I don't know why some posters would want a bigger fee for a player who has not been (seriously) involved for a whole year and had relative high wages for a young player. I think he is a good pro, a promising PL player and seems to be a good lad.
All the best to him and let's hope he can score against our rivals!
All the best to him and let's hope he can score against our rivals!
Not to talk down on anyone, but this deal for someone who barely played past season, is it because of scoring against Atletico last year in the UCL?
I know it's not unusual for BPL players, but 4 professional goals for a forward warranting that amount of money, to me, seems odd, no?
Of course, scouting includes more than just wikipedia'ing the guy, but then the past season would complicate things in that regard.
Speaking of scouting,
I guess he is the kind of player who can do a job when being a wide (finishing) forward or 2-up-front striker focusing on running deep and scoring? As a more all round winger or single striker, it seems less likely to succeed? Or will we see an Iwobi type transformation?
For all the hate McT has received, he should really feel mistreated by his low wages. Till last year, he was a regular for almost 3 seasons in the team and everyone around him, from the kit man, the tea lady to the random player who made a five minute cameo in a league cup game, seem to have a bigger contract than him.
If McTom is really on 60k a week he should thank his lucky stars every day of the week.
No wonder we can't shift him for the sort of fee he should be.
Players who haven't even played for senior team are sold for 14 million, compared to that 15 million is a good price for buying club.
All the best to him, good signing for Forest
In three years time he will be playing for an average team in the Swedish Allsvenskan. £15m is a terrific deal if true.
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But I'd imagine being toned but ripped will assist in many attributes in football.
Just because he’s played 20 odd games in a poor United team, doesn’t mean he’s better than a player than hasn’t broken into City’s first team.
Then you should read the post i quoted.
£15m is a very good price for what he's shown us.
Nottingham are building up quite the collection of similarly priced players. A lot won't work out but young and cheap isn't that bad a strategy.
It does show though we need to drastically lower the salary we offer players if we want to sell well. City selling their academy talents for £15m a pop is primarily due to them being low salary.
Henderson is on £100k, Brandon Williams on £60k, there's no need for bit part squad players to be on such high salaries. Even the likes of Van De Beek and Sancho should be on way lower than what they are. Between Henderson, Williams, VDB there's probably around £50m of transfer fees there if they were on lower wages.
Nottingham are building up quite the collection of similarly priced players. A lot won't work out but young and cheap isn't that bad a strategy.
It does show though we need to drastically lower the salary we offer players if we want to sell well. City selling their academy talents for £15m a pop is primarily due to them being low salary.
Henderson is on £100k, Brandon Williams on £60k, there's no need for bit part squad players to be on such high salaries. Even the likes of Van De Beek and Sancho should be on way lower than what they are. Between Henderson, Williams, VDB there's probably around £50m of transfer fees there if they were on lower wages.
Yes but not the technical and mental stuff.
That is our general transfer strategy - buy at £15 or so, develop and sell on at £50m. Our forward line this season could be Elanga, AwoniyI, Johnson and Danilo- all very quick players with MGW hitting the early pass on the break.
Your team gets a young, promising player with high potential. I feel sad to see him leave but feel it would work out the best for both Elanga and Forest.
He seemed lost the way on pitch last season on what his role should be and how to do it the best way. As a result, whenever he got minuets to play, he seemed so confused, and he got even less opportunities one after another.
Your team seemed to me needs a left wing attacker which is the nature position of Elanga. You also have Gibbs-White and Johnson. These are very young, technically silky, physically strong players. It’s interesting to see how and which direction Forest to evolve the playing style.
Yes he was poor whenever he played last season, but I think he can have a solid career at a club like Forest and will probably find a middle ground level when he can play more consistently. I can imagine him being a tidy player for them, and he is still only 21.
That’s the worst part, imagine looking forward to a couple of days in New York then being told to fly 8 hours back to Nottingham? Gutted.
If I were Forest I’d tell him to fly back via some war torn country so Nottingham didn’t look so bad.
He lacked product but teams were visibly scared of his pace.
He can impact games just by running. But he needs to add a lot more to his game to start contributing something more tangible.
Players at the top end of the pitch will always earn more, they do the difficult stuff.
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if he reinvents himself as a wingback. Incredible physical attributes and decent defensive awareness. Good deal for all parties.
Yeah but he can’t tackle, he’s better at running in behind so he should stick to that.
Feels like they have sold/selling three random ass fecks for £>15m this summer.
Good deal all round. Wish the lad well.
Yes we do - we needed one last season too. Coopers philosophy seems to be low press / quick turnover and break. The evolution this season will be trying to string two passes together when in possession. We were bloody hopeless at keeping the ball last season.
I‘m pleased to get a player like Elanga though. He’ll certainly get plenty of minutes for us.
£15m is actually decent not just as an individual sale but also for setting a precedent for future sales. With Elanga going for £15m it makes the prices for McTominay, Fred, Maguire higher. If we’d sold Elanga for £8m then Fred goes for £15, now can see us getting £25m -£30m for Fred, £35m for McTominay and £40m for Maguire doesn’t seem outrageous
Are all deal documents duly signed? What is the status now?
Urgh! Not this shit again.
Who is paying £30m for a 30 year old Fred with one year on his contract? He's been linked with Fulham who have never spent £30m on anyone and he's also on £120k pw which is more than most prem clubs can afford. So again; who?
'40m for Maguire doesn't seem outrageous'??? Do you think a top 7/8 team will buy him? Teams outside of the top 8 don't tend to spend £40m on anyone, let alone a 30 year old meme on £200k pw. Can you be specific? Which team(s) do you think will spend £40m on him.
Your McTominay estimation is optimistic but not impossible. I think it would be closer to £25m.
There is no point comparing Elanga's fee to the other players you have mentioned when he's a 21 year old on 5k pw. Context matters regarding transfers.
A 1 year deal ? That's abit weird isn't it.
It will be a relegation protection - I’ve heard there is built in extensions of 1 and 2 years.
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