We'd be mad to ship out the likes of Pellestri ahead of him. Other than his physicality he's miles behind Amad, Garnacho and Pellestri. Simply not good enough for us.
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True but if it's a loan deal that won't help much.
This is Everton right? Surely you know by now that any loan deal will include a £20m automatic buy clause should he play more then 5 games!
This is Everton right? Surely you know by now that any loan deal will include a £20m automatic buy clause should he play more then 5 games!
I don't think we have ever done that. Options, yes, but not obligations.
Surely could use a good loan Elanga. Hopefully he goes somewhere where he is "guaranteed" gametime. Sceptical about loaning him to Everton though because of the number of competitors for him to get gametime there, Lampards future hanging by a thread, as well as a relegation battle in the PL perhaps not being the optimal surroundings to rebuild confidence.. Could see the Bundesliga being a better place for him at the moment, a league where attacking talents seems to blossom.
The most disappointing thing last night was he didn't seem to have any guile about him on the ball, he just ran in straight lines, and so got easily dispossessed every time. No feints, no cut backs, no changes of direction - it's like he just hoped defenders would miss their tackles.
My video was quite poor and so at one point I saw someone feint in the box, which prompted me to think "that's an improvement" till I noticed it was Mainoo.
AWB was more elusive and effective on the ball than he was, which is damning.
My video was quite poor and so at one point I saw someone feint in the box, which prompted me to think "that's an improvement" till I noticed it was Mainoo.
AWB was more elusive and effective on the ball than he was, which is damning.
That would be huge for me.
After Pellistri got an assist after about 10 seconds of football I feel Elanga's future minutes went down considerably.
He’s 20 you know?
Let's not forget Welbeck and Cleverly. Our academy has been stinking up the squad for nearly two decades.
Sure, I understand that you can't have 25 world-class players but these guys should never have been regulars.
And Garnacho is 18, Rashford showed more at 18, Greenwood showed more at 17, Martial at 19, the raw potential would always be obvious. Its fine not being a United level footballer less than 1% of footballers actually are.
So only Garnacho, Rashford, and Greenwood are United level footballers? Nothing else in between?
Don’t be daft. Welbeck was a full squad member for three years. Cleverley for two (three at a push). We finished second on goal difference and won the league in two of those seasons. The other was Moyes. They were perfectly fine squad members in winning teams, when it became clear they wouldn’t become first 11 regulars they had the choice of staying and playing 20 games a year or moving.
McTominay is at that point now, we’ve had Lingard, Andreas, Henderson, Greenwood previously fill the squad in the last few years, and most of those had loans first. They’re absolutely useful players as long as we can improve on moving them out at the right time (Lingard).
Elanga deserves a chance to go out on loan before we ship him out permanently.
Elanga is too further down, Lingard is as low as it should go. Take a que from other big clubs, imagine Elanga at Barca, Madrid, City would he get a sniff?
Lingard had potential he just blew it. I don’t see anything in Elanga that suggests he will ever reach the standard we should require even from a squad player
Maybe comparing him to that guys is a little bit unfair but Elanga doesn't stand out at all even when compared to players in his age group in general. He'd need to get a hell of a lot better to be worthy of a place at United and that doesn't seem at all likely.
Yes.
Whenever a Tosic or a Manucho showed up they didn't exactly last long did they. Lingard outstayed his welcome by a good few years and Elanga isn't even in that bracket. He's not even on a par with Dan James.
He could be a Ji Sung Park.
How likely is that? Park had the insane work rate as well as being tidy on the ball and getting more than his fair share of important goals. I don't like the idea of holding onto a pretty mediocre young player on the off-chance they might be a late bloomer. Those are very rare.
I will take offence with mentioning his name in the same breath as Elanga, even just hypothetical.
I think he would benefit a lot by having a loan. We only really started seeing him in the first team regularly this time last year with Ralf so it’s harsh to completely rubbish him. It’s not like he’s been around the first team for years.
Park was a very capable footballer who had exceptional games against the best teams around with this game probably his careeer peak:
It's a really massive leap from anything we've seen from Elanga to this point in time.
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I don't think he has the ability to make it here, but I do hope for his sake, he's not on social media reading the fans' comments and posts, for his own sake.
So by your logic we should keep all our academy players because of the off chance they're all late bloomers ? Sometimes the juice is just not worth the squeeze and it's blatantly obvious that Elanga does not have a future here past this summer.
Elanga just looks slow in the head unfortunately.
A few times he got caught dawdling on the ball looking for options and trying to think what to do next. That shows me he needs more experience.
He has to go on loan IMO. He has the physical attributes but playing as an attacker in the PL, you have to be a fast thinker.
A few times he got caught dawdling on the ball looking for options and trying to think what to do next. That shows me he needs more experience.
He has to go on loan IMO. He has the physical attributes but playing as an attacker in the PL, you have to be a fast thinker.
this is said about every bad player
JSP should walk easily in too our 1st team right now, very sad to hear that comparison
Not having a go at Elanga but you guys need to put some respect on Park’s name.
Park was a baller.
Yep, he joined us at 24 having already had CL experience with PSV. And he was scapegoated for years before he hit his peak with us.
Three Lung never just walked anywhere. Probably running a double marathon around Seoul at this very moment.
Did you watch him when he was 20?
It's still a massive leap, no matter what you think he was cast as during his time here.
I cant remember what he was good at in the beginning.
Even if he does'nt become exactly like that, I'd be happy if he can be a squad player. Ralf may have been useless at a lot of things, but he had an eye for talent. If ETH likes him, then he can be coached.
He's scored that one random goal.
He’s the sort of player Liverpool cash in on as soon as they can. We have to be more decisive with players like him and others who are out on loan.
Need a clear plan for them or they need to be sold off before they are earning too much and stuck in limbo like Williams.
Need a clear plan for them or they need to be sold off before they are earning too much and stuck in limbo like Williams.
I remember watching that game Live!
Weird thing to say but sometimes I feel Park didn't reach his attacking potential at United. That guy was doing mad things on the ball at PSV, and when he came I expected he'd be another flair player for us, ripping fullbacks to shreds, but he kinda morphed into this very good player, but in a sort functional, hardworking way.
Thanks for the help, Sir. I don't remember now.
He was good at running about and looking enthusiastic during a period where the rest of the team looked very flat, so he sorta looked like he had something about him then. Had he made a similar sort of debut with how the team is looking now, for example, he would probably have not played after his debut.
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