There's no way I'm fecking watching The Happening again to see if that theory is correct.
Another load of Shyamalan
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Guy Ritchie was talking a similaly pretentious cock about Revolver. It didn't make it any less atrocious as a movie.
He's so overrated. Twists are aimed at people whose minds are blown by the fact that everything they believed they were seeing was a misdirect.
Apart from the fact that the central point of his movies is not about the twist at the end, really.
He also has the cuntiest name in the history of film.
Yup. And the internet is full of dweebs looking for subtle meanings in shit films that never existed in the first place.
It's actually more the case that there are people like you who dont understand it. And then you blame it on the director. But your inability to comprehend has got nothing to do with him, I mean how could he possibly be responsible for your intelectual deficencies?!
The Sixth Sense was great if you didn't know the twist. Everything else since has been terrible. Really terrible with twists so obvious they approached you like a herd of stampeding elephants who has been trained to shout "I am a twist here I come" as they trample you to death.
He looks alot like Rafael.
He acted the role of a cnut in Signs. I don't think it was a stretch for him.
Yeah, like I was saying...
I wish you could see what I can see.
I really don't. I stopped believing in fairies a long time ago.
Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too? -- Douglas Adams
Hehe. Your arrogance is borne out of being able to 'understand' the mindless witterings of that great 'intellectual' Shaymalan.
I've heard it all now.
I wonder how many people actually 'got' this big conclusion whilst watching the film, and not googling it afterwards?
At least two. Me and the person who wrote that review. I'd wager a few more here and there. There's a key shot in the film - a completely and utterly WTF random slow motion shot of a billowing skirt that can only be a POV (point-of-view) shot from John Leguizamo's daughter as Zoe Deschanel for the first time takes adult responsibility and shields the child from harm as you're dead certain they're about to die - that shot sort of causes the chain reaction. It's very very noticeable and jarring (and long) - basically so 'bad' in terms of pacing that there's no way it's in there without a reason. Really it's the length of the shot that does it. It's up there way too long.
So once you think: wait, so did they survive because she was being protective of the child? I guess if you wanted to equate it to something you could call it the mid-film equivalent of the Bruce Willis reveal in Sixth.
And no one's saying the film is genius. But it's not incoherent or crappy. And if anything the whole "Your obsession with immature youth-culture will be your undoing, America. It's a foregone conclusion, a natural (hence the trees) progression," message is right in line with MNS's reputation for being preachy, haughty, and self-righteous. Again: he's a filmmaker with European sensibilities working in the Hollywood studio system.
The point of an increbibly stupid film is that parents aren't as good as they should be? No shit sherlock and I sure don't need to sit through the most incoherent, laughably plotted cinematic garbage to find that out. The trees are causing people to kill themsleves first attacking big groups, then smaller groups, then individuals and then running out of steam, all in the name of saving the planet from humans. FFS.
I've heard about people bursting out laughing/groaning in disgust after seeing the trailer for that Devil film on several forums now. Perhaps a kind of morphic resonance to shitness is happening?
Wait, so you sat there through a film just and at some point thought up all that in the middle of one scene? I mean I tend to have a think about films after viewing them (I pretty much called sixth sense, but then who didn't), but in the middle?
I don't know about that. Besides, I still fail to see how a great 'insight' like that lifts the film. It was terribly acted, rubbish dialogue, no real connection with the characters and just wasn't that good at all. Even after knowing (or maybe not knowing, just reading someone's interpretation) what the film is supposed to be about, it doesn't lift it up at all in my eyes.
This smacks of fans using the "the film was too deep for you to enjoy, go back to your dumb action movies" line, when in actuality, most of what has been said to explain the film after is just an excuse. Much like Signs in that regard.
Dont take it personally Brophs, I wasn't being serious, I was only responding to that cock Pogue.
Dont take it personally Brophs, I wasn't being serious, I was only responding to that cock Pogue.
Nicely done.Bravo Wibble, you managed to bring religion even into a movie thread. Excellent job! A bit obsessive but nevertheless...
My wife thought exactly the same thing as you about the movie, in fact she hated it. But I personally suspected straight away that it's all intentional, as many other viewers did. It's still interesting that there were many different interpretations for the movie, one of them Hungrywing explained, another one was, if I remember correctly, based on Shyamalan's intention to make a B-Movie with a stupid twist, stupid acting and silly dialogue, and apparently throughout the movie there are hints which point to this idea, basiclly Shyamalan working contrary to people's typical expectations of what and how his movie ought to be.
Again, that could all be true. It could also be him trying to cover for a bad film (which I suspect is more likely, after all his stock has definitely dropped).
Either way, and whatever the truth, it is still pretty poor entertainment.
Surely that's not the universal purpose of every movie?
If that was his intention, he nailed it.
Of course, the next bit of your sentence doesn't make any sense because if he really wanted to to work contrary to people's expectations his best bet was making a movie which was actually good. That would have caught us all by surprise.
I can't quite believe that people are falling for such a risible explanation for a shit film.
"Your film's shit"
"Yeah... Um... I meant that... ok?"
Although, I shouldn't be too surprised. Some folk will believe any old bollox they're told. The CE forum contains plenty of evidence in this regard.
So he intentionally made a shit film that wasn't meant to entertain?
Wow, the man's a visionary
I've never seen the "sixth sense" but "the happening" may well be up there as the worst film I have ever seen. Its the trees, I mean come on?! Maybe he was trying to send us all a message about not abusing nature but even knowing that doesn't make the film any better.
I'm not a fan of his but some people do think he's vastly misunderstood, while others think he's plan awful (look no further than this thread). Judging by the debate itself, maybe there is something that most of us miss in his films.
Compared to "the happening", how good or bad is his new film then?
I'm not a fan of his but some people do think he's vastly misunderstood, while others think he's plan awful (look no further than this thread). Judging by the debate itself, maybe there is something that most of us miss in his films.
Compared to "the happening", how good or bad is his new film then?
One of the worst films ever made.
It's a masterpiece.
Actually you'd probably love it. Bound to be some bollox reason why The Last Airbender is really a work of cinematic genius.
I haven't seen the Airbender movie, is it good?
The Happening is a work of art. You wouldn't appreciate it.
The Happening is a work of art. You wouldn't appreciate it.
The reviews suggest that The Airbender is as good as The Happening.
How does Uwe Boll keep getting movies? How does McG? There are a lot of shitty directors out there who somehow suck the right dick and get work, Night isn't actually as bad as people make him out to be. Technically, he's still one of the better directors out there. His problem has been he keeps trying to reinvent the 6th sense with his ending and it's become predictable. But you look at most of his movies and in terms of performances and direction it's not that bad.
6th Sense, Signs, The Village, Unbreakable were all good movies. All had a lot of good things going on besides the 'twist' at the end.
In fairness though, The Happening was quite abysmal. His poorest effort yet, so who knows it's possible he's spiraling into shitness as we speak.
He has made 1 decent film. The rest have been utter crap.