That's nonsense, mate. Yorke was probably the best striker in Europe during the treble season.
Another Dwight Yorke?
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That's nonsense, mate. Yorke was probably the best striker in Europe during the treble season.
Cheers! As I said, I make no claims to knowing anything about Yorke, pre-United. I just remember him forming half of the best strike partnership I've seen (at least at United.)
Ruck me, you can't just go on goals, or the likes of Kevin Phillips, Bent and others come into the mix.
Kane hasn't had a full season, how can you possibly compare him to Yorke just yet?!
The closest to this was the RvP signing.
I was perfectly calm when making my post. I asked if you'd actually read it because it clearly seemed like you didn't.
Btw this isn't a discussion, it was me stating as a fact that benteke is not on Yorke's level and is as dissimilar a player as you could hope to find. Effectively, I'm telling you your comparison was so far off the mark that I had no intention of having any sort of discussion with you, other that to tell you you're wrong.
Charming. You must be a treat in social situations...Anyway, the point of the thread was not to compare strikers in the EPL with Dwight Yorke. It was to discuss whether there might a striker at a smaller club (rather than from abroad, which is where most of the transfer discussion is aimed,) who might be able to make the step up in the same way that Yorke did.
People count goals and forget Yorke also got 23 assists during the treble season. He was pretty much the complete forward. Shame it didn't last but he was that good.
...and the point I'm making is that if benteke did make the switch to united and became a success, the situations would still not be comparable.
Kane is not a patch on Yorke, yet.
Personally he's been fortunate with his goal ratio this season. You do get the odd season like he's had this year. I could be wrong, but I'd wait for him to have a few consistent seasons prior to making claims he's better than Yorke.
Personally he's been fortunate with his goal ratio this season. You do get the odd season like he's had this year. I could be wrong, but I'd wait for him to have a few consistent seasons prior to making claims he's better than Yorke.
As I've been saying he could be the next Darren Bent or Kevin Philips who knows.
Meanwhile Yorke proved himself to be among Europe elite strikers during the treble season before his lack of work ethic to go with his phenomenal talent let him down in the long run.
Kane has a long way to go before people can even begin to mention him as being in the same class as Yorke.
And why is that?
Benteke is a relatively young, relatively unproven player, with potential, but mostly just a bit raw. He relies on his pace and power, a lot. He plays for perennial relegation fodder and there are big question marks over where he will ever be a top player.
Yorke, on the other hand, was the finished article. One of the league's best players, playing for a team that would be in contention for a European spot and had won some silverware silverware. He was a player who oozed class and relied on technique and a good footballing brain over pace and power.
The players themselves and the overall comparison are chalk and cheese.
being one who witness Dwight, I don't think there will be another unfortunately (at least not soon) he cost a good bit and combined with our other striker who cost a good bit (and keith xD) they stuck a partnership that I doubt will see again for some some time :/ (at least we seen it for united!)
That sounds fair enough, although I guess my original question was (and I don't think I articulated it that well,) if we could find a striker domestically who could help us. As I mentioned earlier, maybe the better title would have been 'another Louis Saha'? So if someone like Benteke came here and was successful, then that would fit the bill, so to speak.
Again, I didn't follow the EPL closely back then, but it would appear that it was much more of a two-horse race (United and Arsenal,) in which a team like Villa could challenge for Europe with no real prospects of winning the league (thereby making a move from Villa to United a real step up,) whereas now we have 4-5 teams who could legitimately challenge (I'm somewhat generously including Liverpool based on what happened last year.) So it would be hard to imagine a player like Sturridge (or even Kane for that matter,) making the switch to United, given that both those teams harbour semi-realistic aims of challenging for the title.
Benteke would be a good option for a 4th striker
Kane better than Yorke 
The amount of shite you read on here at times is out of this world.
The amount of shite you read on here at times is out of this world.
If we ship out RvP and Falcao I'd be very happy with Rooney, Benteke and Wilson as our striking options. They all offer something different. I really believe Benteke can shine in a more conducive environment.
Benteke would be interesting.
This thread keeps reminding me how I vividly remember some tosspot on TalkSport mocking us by saying we would never win anything in Europe with Andy Cole and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. He made a point of making them sound shit and Championship level, just like many refer to the likes of Young as not good enough these days.
That was the Summer of 1998.
In fairness, we DID get Yorke after that, so he could claim he was right, although his point actually was we needed some fancy foreigner.
It was my Alan Hansen "can't win anything with kids" moment that season, the one I kept laughing at, particularly after "Solskjaer has won it".
That was the Summer of 1998.
In fairness, we DID get Yorke after that, so he could claim he was right, although his point actually was we needed some fancy foreigner.
It was my Alan Hansen "can't win anything with kids" moment that season, the one I kept laughing at, particularly after "Solskjaer has won it".
Kane better than Yorke
The amount of shite you read on here at times is out of this world.
Kane better than Cole ever was. Got scouse coffee for breakfast?
You can't copy that smile.
I know hes been a bit shit for the majority of the past 18months but Benteke is the type of striker I'd like to see come in, someone when Rooney is playing no.10, rested or where ever, that can lead the line, good in the air, strong.. basically the opposite of Falcao yesterday, leading the tip of our attack.
Benteke got an injury which killed his momentum. That coupled with playing for one of the least attacking teams in Lambersts Villa meant he looked worse than he was. Sherwood has been fantastic for him (and Villa).
It actually makes sense also with regards to Fellaini. You don't want to sign another "Fellaini" in midfield, but tactically he has been very relevant. Instead you get Benteke and know that be it through Fellaini, or Benteke, or both, the aerial/knockdown side of things is taken care of.
You do realize that Benteke tore his Achillies in April of 2014 .... Usually takes a player at least a year to get to form if ever after that injury.
Most Villa fans think he's the greatest player they've had had at the club in the modern era.
I do realise that, it takes quite a while to get back to pre-injury form! I live with a Villa fan so I watch him week in week out! He's no Yorke but it's good he's thriving under Sherwood!
Yorke was a fairly decent goalscorer who stepped up big time at Old Trafford. His link up play was great though he was playing with better players. Bentekes record suggests he's more then relative potential and unproven.
How's his acting compared to Yorke?
Benteke looks a really interesting player. I think he'd be a very good 2nd option for us. He's not the typical kind of striker we go for but he would allow us to mix our play up.
What do the Villa fans think of him?
What do the Villa fans think of him?
Could of been Bony before he moved to the wrong club
True, only the very best players can say they got 20+ goals & assists in a season