Dwight Yorke's best league total was 20 goals in 32 matches
Kane has 19 goals in 27 matches
Kane has 19 goals in 27 matches
Another Dwight Yorke?
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Daniel Sturridge could be the next Andy Cole.
Started at good club, but didn't make career there, went through decent team (Newcastle) and ended up in top team.
Sturridge is yet to end up in top team.
Started at good club, but didn't make career there, went through decent team (Newcastle) and ended up in top team.
Sturridge is yet to end up in top team.
You cannot possibly have watched Yorke in his pomp. He was one of the best strikers in Europe, and if he didn't have such a love for extra curricular activities, would've have cemented that reputation over the following seasons.
Kane is absolutely nowhere near that level at this moment in time.
I was a big fan of Yorke, even a fan of his at Villa before he came. I watched most of his career.
I'm just being objective.
I think Dean Ashton had a good chance of making the step up. He had something about him but sadly never recovered from the broken ankle he suffered at age 23.
Ings?
He has the potential to be but its way too early to make that statement. Kane has been playing at this level for barely a season.
You can't go on statistic alone to match the two especially when one of them was a support /withdrawn striker who was there partly to bridge the gap between midfield and the final 3rd the other is a target man who's job is to score goals and hold up the ball in the final 3rd. Yorke was on both a technically and creative level streets ahead and made almost as many as he scored.
Please tell me you're not comparing a player of Yorke's level who had a career filled with brilliance to a player who has yet to sustain his current admittedly brilliant form beyond one season and who for all we know could be the next Kevin Phillips.
Marcus Stewart got 20 odd goals for Ipswich in one season
Kane played off the striker for half the season. He has assists himself
And Yorke had 4 years at United, and the last one wasnt brilliant at all. Let alone at other clubs
None of that matters as Kane simply hasn't either sustained it for a long enough time period to appear in the same category as Yorke or really shown anything truly impressive thus far other than goal scoring ability. Don't get me wrong goal scoring in itself is impressive, however the premiership is littered with one season wonders in that respect (Philips, Beattie, Pahars). He hasn't shown anywhere near the same variety to his game as Yorke had.
How anybody can say Kane is currently in his league is beyond me. Yorke was one if the most feared strikers in Europe during his first two/three seasons with us. Kane simply hasn't done enough at such an early stage of his career to merit being placed in the same class as Yorke.
Yorke was one of the most potent strikers in Europe in our CL-winning campaign and proved it at a multitude of venues against what were the best teams of that era. Kane hasn't even set foot in the Champions League, let alone proved his wares against the best clubs on the planet.
There is just no way you can objectively compare Kane's season to Yorke's very best and claim he's par, let alone better than Yorke - Kane has it all to do to match Yorke.
Danny Welbeck
You can only beat whats in front of you. He's done it in the big games in the competitions he has played in.
Well then, that rules him out by default as he hasn't done it at anywhere near the level Yorke did against the level of opponents Yorke made a mug of.
Yorke got 30 goals and 24 assists in the treble season - the same as David Beckham. He was also top scorer in the Premier League and Champions League that season, scoring away at Inter Milan, Juventus, Barcelona and Bayern Munich.
Kane has yet to reach anywhere near that standard and I doubt if he ever will. Yorke was extraordinary that year.
For currently less than a season so the same argument could be made for Marcus Stewart, Kevin Philips and Darren Bent.
Let's give the kid a little more time before we start comparing him to an integral part of an European cup winning side shall we?
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Dwight Yorke only gave us two top seasons before declining quite rapidly. We signed him when he was already 27. Yorke was superb in those two seasons, but I don't think it's the kind of signing we should be gunning for.
Kane, Sterling, Berahino seem more like the Rooney signing. Relatively unproven, but lots of talent. Any of the 3 of them would be a gamble, as Rooney was.
Kane, Sterling, Berahino seem more like the Rooney signing. Relatively unproven, but lots of talent. Any of the 3 of them would be a gamble, as Rooney was.
Don't think OP is looking for a Dwight Yorke replica, but someone who can take the next step and have the same kind of impact at a bigger club. I think both Berahino and Benteke could have an impact if they signed for United. Kane would be very good as well, but don't think Levy will be selling him to United anytime soon.
If we are looking at Premier League strikers then I'd say
Benteke
Sakho
Berahino
Abroad then I would go with
Firmino
Depay
Benteke
Sakho
Berahino
Abroad then I would go with
Firmino
Depay
Crouch?
Him and Fellaini as the new Yorke and Cole
Him and Fellaini as the new Yorke and Cole
There was a lot of talk about us wanting to sign him when he was at West Ham. Charlie Austin looks like a decent player but I'm not certain he's good enough to start for United.
Jay Rodriguez is about to return from an injury that could be career defining. If he recaptures his form from last year he could be a good fit for a bigger club, not necessarily United though. Versatile, hard wording, clever and relatively unheralded. Wonder if Tottenham will be in for him in the summer
'cept Depay's not a striker...oh and Sakho, nah, none of Big Sam's strikers fill me with much confidence
Reading between the lines from Keane's first book Yorke lost his hunger and desire after that famous CL win. Paraphrasing "I don't care if I never win anything again" in the dressing room right after the CL. Would certainly explain his seemingly sudden decline.
We both seem to have a strange man crush on Ashton. I liked him alot too.
I think of all the young forwards mentioned in this thread Berahino interests me the most. I think Kane is limited and not a technically gifted enough striker to cut it in a LVG side whereas the former is very silky, pacey and the sort of player who doesn't need service to get goals. I might be very wrong on him though.
Or maybe Benteke?
An alternate title for this thread (and I'm taking the liberty given that I started the damn thing...) could be 'another Louis Saha?'. He's another interesting example of a class player making the step up from a mid-table team.
The question makes me think how few good strikers are in the league at the moment. With the strikers we've bought from clubs in the league (Cole, Yorke, Rooney, Saha, Berba, RVP) you always thought "yeah. they'd play for United."
Doesn't help that any any bona fide world class striker inevitably ends up at Real or Barca. Aguero would be the same if he could just stay fit for a season.
Still there's some promising ones coming through like Kane, Ings, Berahino and Austin. But unless we can get our act together the Pl's best will continue to be cherry-picked.
Still there's some promising ones coming through like Kane, Ings, Berahino and Austin. But unless we can get our act together the Pl's best will continue to be cherry-picked.
Probably my favorite player while he was here. He had everything that we needed at the time. Shame he was made of glass.
No. Definitely not Benteke. Did you even read my post?
Firstly, I said Yorke was one of the best strikers in the league and a star player, benteke is not now and most likely never will be at that level.
The reason I suggested Sturridge, is because he IS one of the best strikers in the league and a star player. He's also, compared to benteke, a much more similar player to Yorke.
First of all - calm down. It's meant to be a discussion. Enough with the pathetic 'did you read my post' nonsense. I'll take your word for it on Yorke's star status at the time, but given Benteke's age (24) and accomplishments thus far, they appear to measure up pretty well to Yorke's at the same age.
As for Sturridge, I'm not sure I rate him that much higher than I do Benteke. I think he benefitted immensely from playing next to Suarez last year. His career before and after that time have been a bit patchy (of course injuries have played a part, but then that has also been the case with Benteke.)
Now grow up and respond in a proper manner.
Worth pointing out that Yorke was not a striker until 95-96.
Problem with Benteke is he goes through massive periods where he doesn't score! He seems to have lost his poaching ability that he first had when he arrived in the PL. He seems to be scoring now but that's because he seems to be revilatised under Sherwood who is very attack minded, unlike lambert that would park the bus a hell of a lot!!
To be honest I can't see anyone like Yorke at the minute, I would say Kane but I want to see what his second season is like before saying he is the next Yorkie!
I do like Ings to be honest, good guy bit of a poacher but is he another Yorkie, I don't know. It's so difficult because in my opinion Yorkie was one of the very best, in ability, attitude and an all round team player.
Are you for real?
Before Yorke's arrival Cole was a bit of a question mark for us. We spent big money (7m and of the finest talents we had) to replace a player who was clearly better than him (Hughes). He seemed not to be very likeable either. Cantona certainly didn't like him very much and Coley didn't spoke with Sheringham because of an argument which is more appropriate for 10 years old. Ok he did scored the goals for us however he couldn't emulate that form anywhere else and used to miss alot of chances too (Hoddle's criticism was a bit cruel but fair). I remember his game against Dortmund where he made Welbeck look like RVN on steroids.
Anyway before the treble many saw him as the guy we signed because we couldn't get Shearer while others questioned whether we should give more games to Ole who seemed to be a much better finisher than him. Things changed once Yorke came to scene. Their partnership was electric and for the first time Cole was seen at international stage (advertisements etc). He wasn't considered the consolation prize who happened to be lucky enough to play alongside best midfield of its generation anymore.
Its a shame that Yorke couldn't find the professionalism needed to keep up playing at the highest level. His attitude not only hurt his career and the club but also Cole who was left vulnerable and a player relatively easy to replace (once RVN was signed Cole was immediately out of the first team). However let us not kid ourselves. Yorke was the better player. He was more technically gifted, a better finisher and better in air.
The closest player the EPL had to Yorke was Saha. Similarly to Yorke he wasn't exactly world class but he had everything (pace, technique, finishing etc). I wonder how Di Canio would have reacted if we signed him up