Where did you get that from?
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Where did you get that from?
Di Maria has been World Class this season?
You said no other outfield players are World Class, it's your words.
Is that a lie? do we have any other WC players on our team that i don't know about?
I've not stated that di Maria has had a good season, all I've said is that, given the circumstances, he's not been as awful as YOU keep stating. Yes, his performances haven't been great, yet he's still contributed. Does that not count for anything? According to you, no, it doesn't matter. You have to be doing something right if you can still bag assists every two games or so and a few goals in between. Or is it all luck?
West Brom scored a very lucky goal against us, last week. However, do you think they care? You think they felt guilty after being crap all game and winning? They won and that's all that matters in the game in football, especially when the stakes are high.
What can you can analyse from his last 6 or 7 substitute performances? During his time as a starter from September to March, he wasn't anywhere near as good as last season, yet he scored and assisted some incredibly important goals and performed well (on a rating scale of about 6/10, with the odd 7/10) every 2-3 games.
I, too, expected much more from him, but I can appreciate what he has done for us. We needed CL, next season, and he's helped get us there. That, for me, is all that matters, right now.
This happened when? According to me? putting words in my mouth now? i think you're trying to paint as something just so you can defend your precious Di Maria, i basically said his stats don't reflect his performances, but i guess you cant criticise someone on here.
It's not the point, you disagreed that his stats were a proof of his high qualities, and after that you said that it was normal to have stats like that because he was a world class player.
So his stats reflects his quality.
Read your posts in the thread. All you've done is dismissed his contribution.
Had any other midfielder in our team scored 4 and assisted 13, different things would have been said.
I never said it was normal to have stats like that because he was a WC player, the reason i brought up his status as a WC player was to point out the fact that he would have possession of the ball more than the average player and everything went through him up until the Arsenal game in february of course, when you combine that with his WC ability its easy to see why he'd have 6 brilliant assists and 7 fortunate ones.
But my overall point was that HIS STATS DONT REFLECT HIS PERFORMANCES which has been said a million times, his season hasn't gone the way we expected which is not necessarily a bad thing as he can make up for it next year, but it doesn't also excuse the fact that he hasn't had a spectacular match in 7 months.... but like i said, this has been said a million times, i just came here to break the injury news if you think his stats have reflected his performances then that nice.
Probably missed the ones where i praised him then, just so you could throw his stats at me to somehow vindicate his performances, but its okay, you believe what you want.
No own said that his stats reflected his performances, what has been said, is that his stats reflects his intrinsic qualities.
Maybe you should've just said that without replying to anyone then.
Better than you constantly dismissing his stats. Like I said before, and as @JPRouve states, his stats reflect his qualities and not his performances.
Why on earth does he need crutches though and why wasn't this injury mentioned in LVG's presser?
For fecks sake. Was hoping he'd replace Mata/Young today. Another game of relentlessly pointless passing beckons while everyone blames the strikers.
Probably got injured after the presser?
I acknowledge his stats every single time,I'm concerned about performances. you and @JPRouve can go and talk about his quality.
TF!?
Oh most definitely. Fellaini will add to that too.
Most talented player on the team and showed it more than enough times. Shame about how many injuries he picked up.
I said this a while ago, I think that Falcao and Di Maria just aren't suited to the EPL.
Skillwise, both are actually pretty good, but the physicality of our league is just something else.
In EU, some of the challenges would yield a freekick/foul (this is probably why we see Di Maria and Falcao fall on the floor so much), but in England, the ref doesnt give the foul.
LVG also realised that the EPL is a completely different animal compared to Spain, Germany and Holland.
BTW, it is being suggested that PSG might take Di Maria on loan for next year.
Skillwise, both are actually pretty good, but the physicality of our league is just something else.
In EU, some of the challenges would yield a freekick/foul (this is probably why we see Di Maria and Falcao fall on the floor so much), but in England, the ref doesnt give the foul.
LVG also realised that the EPL is a completely different animal compared to Spain, Germany and Holland.
BTW, it is being suggested that PSG might take Di Maria on loan for next year.
If they took him on loan you'd hope it was part of a permanent deal to bring Veratti here.
I like ADM and I'm happy if he stays as long as LVG actually thinks it through and has a plan.
But if he goes to PSG then the money is no good to us. We'll sell him for 45m and then be forced to pay 40 for hummels or something, we are always held to ransom. If PSG want him, and they should as he would tear ligue un to shreds, then they should cough up a crown jewel, veratti or marquinos.
We have an actualy bargaining chip this summer, we're not under massive pressure to sell, I really hope we get a good deal with ADM goes to PSG.
But if he goes to PSG then the money is no good to us. We'll sell him for 45m and then be forced to pay 40 for hummels or something, we are always held to ransom. If PSG want him, and they should as he would tear ligue un to shreds, then they should cough up a crown jewel, veratti or marquinos.
We have an actualy bargaining chip this summer, we're not under massive pressure to sell, I really hope we get a good deal with ADM goes to PSG.
Biggest disappointment since Veron.
Where should he be played? Seems inconsistent on the wings. Fellaini's current position?
The fact that there's even talk about him leaving after one season sums up how bad he's been. Yeah, you could say that if Young and Fellaini can turn it around, so can Di Maria, however both of those players have already proven themselves in this league many times in the past.
Lets also not forget, there may be an issue that his family (and also him), who simply may not like it in England.
Like a mercenary, he could just do a "Falcao" and stay for the high wages and warm the bench, but if he (or his family) dont like it here, he may decide to take a wage cut and move to a country where he feels better suited.
Previously he has lived in Argentina, Portugal and Spain (all hot countries), so I imagine that the climate could also be an issue.
Like a mercenary, he could just do a "Falcao" and stay for the high wages and warm the bench, but if he (or his family) dont like it here, he may decide to take a wage cut and move to a country where he feels better suited.
Previously he has lived in Argentina, Portugal and Spain (all hot countries), so I imagine that the climate could also be an issue.
I doubt that is the case but if that is the case then they are stupid.
It's looking plausible that he could leave.
I think this would be a huge error.
1) It doesn't send a good message that you break your club transfer record and pay £60m for a player who is gone 12 months (or less) later.
2) di Maria certainly has the talent to turn it all around and become the best player in England. The first third of the season he was fantastic and still has 10 assists despite being piss poor since then.
3) If he does go, that is another player we will need to sign to replace him. If de Gea goes too, we could be looking at something like 7 signings. It will disrupt us again and put us back to square one. (and no I don't think Memphis is a di Maria alternative, I think we'd have signed him anyway)
Letting him leave on loan would just be idiotic and sad.
I think this would be a huge error.
1) It doesn't send a good message that you break your club transfer record and pay £60m for a player who is gone 12 months (or less) later.
2) di Maria certainly has the talent to turn it all around and become the best player in England. The first third of the season he was fantastic and still has 10 assists despite being piss poor since then.
3) If he does go, that is another player we will need to sign to replace him. If de Gea goes too, we could be looking at something like 7 signings. It will disrupt us again and put us back to square one. (and no I don't think Memphis is a di Maria alternative, I think we'd have signed him anyway)
Letting him leave on loan would just be idiotic and sad.
Not really.
Yeah, i don't get this either, the manager even commented on it which is strange because I've never seen this type of thing happen with a record signing before, i have this theory that the whole 'Depay rejecting PSG for us fiasco' was all premeditated, i mean you rarely see players talk about teams they rejected this early, even LVG spoke about PSG, so i think they are going to sign Di Maria, its kind of like "I'll fend off Liverpool against your boy Depay and you come in like a knight in shinning armour and swoop him at the last minute, then you give me a cut price deal for Di Maria, win-win for everyone."
I think i need to stop overthinking things.
That's quite some theory. Although, we don't win. We paid £60 million for di Maria, why would we sell him for a cut price? He's 27 and at his peak. Selling him would be really, really stupid. This isn't a Bebe or Anderson; we're talking about one of the best players on the planet. He's shown glimpses of what he can do, in this league, and he's got the ability to rip it apart.
A front line of Depay, Rooney/Rvp, di Maria could be devastating next season.
Would Fellaini's current position not suit him perfectly? He could drop deep to receive the ball and take players on, his pace would be unreal on the counter attack and he has a fantastic workrate which would suit LVG's high pressing style.
He's not big enough to lump the ball at-I mean err-balance.
I'd be disappointed to see him leave before giving a second season a go. He's far too talented to just discard. He's blatantly struggling with confidence and concentration.
Give him until January and if no improvement, sell him. How has arguably the third best player in the world (straight after the WC) dropped to this level of performance? I think he's actually a liability to the team when he comes on at the moment, from giving the ball away. He's THAT low on confidence. I really wanted him to succeed.
I didn't think he had that good of a world cup though, I am sure there was one game (where I think he actually scored the winner) but he was getting slated for giving the ball away on so many occasions.
I still think we should keep him, though it wouldn't suprise me one bit if he was sold - slightly annoying that there is a Copa America this year.
He needs at least 2 more seasons for the massive fee we paid. He showed that has immense talent and can score and assist on a regular basis even when not consistently in the team. I think he needs a good solid pre season behind him and a fresh slate. Build the team around him and we will see the fruits of that soon enough.
He can perform to hazard levels if he's in form and although he's been shit alot of the time this year he definitely needs to be given more opportunities to flourish. This season it's not been easy due to his injury and the form of some of our more unfancied players.
He can perform to hazard levels if he's in form and although he's been shit alot of the time this year he definitely needs to be given more opportunities to flourish. This season it's not been easy due to his injury and the form of some of our more unfancied players.
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