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Would anyone consider letting Di Maria go if it involved a deal with Veratti coming the other way?

I'd be happy if we gave them di Maria and cash to get Veratti.

The boy Veratti would fit a Van Gaal team like a glove and would be the kind of signing that'd see us push for a title.

We're now a club who'll pay a bench warming striker half a million pounds every fortnight - I'd have no problem with the club chucking 10 million quid on top of di Maria if it meant landing an utter gem like Veratti.
 
I'd listen to some sort of deal involving Verratti too, although not if there was any chance we could get Pogba.

If Bayern really want him and are happy to send Iron Robben our way as part of any deal, I'd be all over that too.
 
As much as I love Verrati and think that he is exactly what we need I still wouldn't trade him for Di Maria. I seriously doubt it's even an option, PSG aren't going to sell him. He's part of their long term plan, they can find a cheaper alternative to Di Maria if that's our offer - they already went for Memphis.

Di Maria hasn't had the best first season and we all agree on that but I think he will want to redeem himself as the #7 next season. He's not come in under ideal circumstances and had to adapt to the PL, van Gaal's methods aren't easy either, especially in a different language. The only reason the club would sell their record breaking transfer is if he is seriously unhappy. Even then the club wouldn't take a 10m+ loss on him, no club will offer this. There's been no reliable sources suggesting that he's that unhappy. He said he wanted Manchester United to be his last club in europe before he moves back to Argentina - I doubt he will give up this easily and want out after some poor form and a burglary, which can happen in any country sadly.

He will be fine on the wing next year, I doubt he will play much in midfield since he can only play 10 - we're stocked for that position. He will probably play on the right, van Gaal likes inverted wingers. He will need to adapt to van Gaal's style and this can take time, I want to give him a 2nd season.
 
Why isn't he being deployed in the right wing or the position Fellaini has been playing. Playing on the right makes him look twice the player rather than not being able to beat a man on the left.

Look at against Arsenal how he played on the right and also how he destroyed Germany from the same side. It doesn't make sense to me to not use him in them positions. In the centre providing through balls in to Rvp would have caused havoc last Saturday.
 
Di Maria has endured a tough year, bright start but faded quite a bit after half dozen games or so.

Still has shown bits of quality here and there, though, which gives me some hope that he'll be better next season with pre season under his belt.
 
I've just been watching a few videos of his, just to remind me how how good he actually is, and what struck me most is just how much he took people on in his Madrid days, and tried fancy bits of skill, little tricks and flicks etc. That seems to have been completely eradicated from his game atm, right now he just gets the ball and tries an aimless cross into the box. I can't remember the last time he beat a defender with a nice trick.

But why the dramatic change? Complete loss of confidence? Can't hack it in the PL? LVG tactics? There must be a reason why one of the biggest flair players in the world has gone from being such a 'showman' to someone who looks scared of a football.
 
I've just been watching a few videos of his, just to remind me how how good he actually is, and what struck me most is just how much he took people on in his Madrid days, and tried fancy bits of skill, little tricks and flicks etc. That seems to have been completely eradicated from his game atm, right now he just gets the ball and tries an aimless cross into the box. I can't remember the last time he beat a defender with a nice trick.

But why the dramatic change? Complete loss of confidence? Can't hack it in the PL? LVG tactics? There must be a reason why one of the biggest flair players in the world has gone from being such a 'showman' to someone who looks scared of a football.

The bolded 2 IMO. He looks scared of getting hit with a tackle and worried of losing the ball. I don't believe LvG has told him not to try to dribble as Young and Herrera do, but he's so low on confidence that he tries the safer option with the pass but unfortunately he can't even manage those right now.
 
The bolded 2 IMO. He looks scared of getting hit with a tackle and worried of losing the ball. I don't believe LvG has told him not to try to dribble as Young and Herrera do, but he's so low on confidence that he tries the safer option with the pass but unfortunately he can't even manage those right now.

One thing I took from those videos, is just how much freedom he was playing with. You contrast that with now, where he looks genuinely scared to make a 5 yard pass, and as you say he's not even getting those right now. He looks like he's double, triple, thinking everything.

Completely agree on him looking scared of being hit in the tackle. Which is weird, as he was getting very stuck in in the early stages of the season. Maybe as he's got used to how physical the PL is, he's become more aware of getting injured etc etc
 
One thing I took from those videos, is just how much freedom he was playing with. You contrast that with now, where he looks genuinely scared to make a 5 yard pass, and as you say he's not even getting those right now. He looks like he's double, triple, thinking everything.

Completely agree on him looking scared of being hit in the tackle. Which is weird, as he was getting very stuck in in the early stages of the season. Maybe as he's got used to how physical the PL is, he's become more aware of getting injured etc etc

Yeah and that is a mental thing, not sure how we can help him there or if LvG's demanding style of obsessive planning is suited to him period, Di Maria is a maverick like Nani, he's not a Valencia type who will follow orders to a T.

My guess is some of the earlier hits he took have made him wary of getting too close and especially trying to dribble in a tight space.
 
tough season for him. you can see he simply does not has any confidence these days.

i'll keep him though as i still believe we haven't seen the best out of him yet. unless suddenly bale is available and PSG make a bid for di maria of course.
 
Yeah and that is a mental thing, not sure how we can help him there or if LvG's demanding style of obsessive planning is suited to him period, Di Maria is a maverick like Nani, he's not a Valencia type who will follow orders to a T.

My guess is some of the earlier hits he took have made him wary of getting too close and especially trying to dribble in a tight space.

Well then he should pack his bags and leave if he can't take a few inevitable hits. He probably thought he could hack it in a more physical League and now he's found out. He's had problems off the field which would have affected him mentally but no one died (thankfully) and more than a few months have passed since then, no improvement.

I think deep down he doesn't want to be here and regrets moving from sunny Spain,that's the bare truth of it. I would wait until the summer and see if anyone is prepared to pay the asking price. If PSG came in tomorrow with a 50 million bid I would accept it without any regret. If he is prepared to put his body on the line and play without fear, then he stays but he has to prove that in these final games and pre season first.
 
If he doesn't improve next season we'll probably sell him, and it will be for a lot less than we could this summer, when we could still likely get 50 million.

You don't sell a player like him after one poor season though, especially if you're as loaded as we are.
 
Whether it's a good idea to sell him or not depends on how Van Gaal plans to use him.

If he still sees him as a midfielder then give him another season. We paid such a high fee because of his performances in that role and he was brilliant there at the start of the season.

If he doesn't like him as a midfielder and only wants to use him as a winger then selling him before his value seriously declines is the right decision. He has never been an elite winger in his life and, judging by his awful performances there this season, shows no sign of turning into one.
 
He's had a rough year, but to even consider selling him it's ridiculous. He has the quality to be our best player, he just needs to settle in LVG's system. Once he learns the language and gets more used to LVG's demands he will be great.

I am dissapointed to hear that he will be playing Copa America this summer, I hope that won't affect his summer preparation.
 
He's had a rough year, but to even consider selling him it's ridiculous. He has the quality to be our best player, he just needs to settle in LVG's system. Once he learns the language and gets more used to LVG's demands he will be great.

I am dissapointed to hear that he will be playing Copa America this summer, I hope that won't affect his summer preparation.

I was thinking that, but maybe having a good tournament is exactly what he needs to boost his confidence.
 
The German press is going mad reporting that Bayern is in for AdM with Schweinsteiger possibly going the other way.
Other names mentioned as targets for Bayern`s spending spree are Griezmann, Gündogan, de Bruyne etc. etc.

Not that I take this serious - however, I really hope we won`t sell AdM on the cheap.
 
The German press is going mad reporting that Bayern is in for AdM with Schweinsteiger possibly going the other way.
Other names mentioned as targets for Bayern`s spending spree are Griezmann, Gündogan, de Bruyne etc. etc.

Not that I take this serious - however, I really hope we won`t sell AdM on the cheap.
I don't want Schweinsteiger here at all. Not the player he used to be plus he'll be 31 this year. We don't need him, the time to sign him was 3-4 years ago not now.
 
The German press is going mad reporting that Bayern is in for AdM with Schweinsteiger possibly going the other way.
Other names mentioned as targets for Bayern`s spending spree are Griezmann, Gündogan, de Bruyne etc. etc.

Not that I take this serious - however, I really hope we won`t sell AdM on the cheap.
No we won't. And Schweinsteiger is not better than Carrick regards injuries nowadays
 
The German press is going mad reporting that Bayern is in for AdM with Schweinsteiger possibly going the other way.
Other names mentioned as targets for Bayern`s spending spree are Griezmann, Gündogan, de Bruyne etc. etc.

Not that I take this serious - however, I really hope we won`t sell AdM on the cheap.
That would be an awful deal. Scheeinsteiger is very much in decline and is just as injury prone as Carrick has been.
 
That would be an awful deal. Scheeinsteiger is very much in decline and is just as injury prone as Carrick has been.

Yeah that would be a stupid deal for us. Schweinsteiger will be injured all the time in the PL and Di Maria will get back to his best at Bayern and we will ask here why we did a deal like that.
 
Cant see us selling ADM this early on, especially with all the noise from his camp about being happy here and working hard for next season. PSG are just the work of the French media to make them relevant for the big transfers again. I've had this argument on another forum where it was claimed PSG were gonna take down FFP with all these loan to buy nonsense deals and how, if Uefa accepted United's kit deal with Addidas then theyll be forced to accept PSG dodgy equivalent.
No club will loan to buy unless they couldn't shift him and wanted to free up wages ala Falcao. Never mind if we did sell him, why would we want to wait a year for the money when other clubs would pay it there and then?
Especially when clubs need the funds to combat FFP themselves.
 
If Guardiola successfully makes him part of his possession based system after LvG has failed to do it, then I am convinced I won't be the only person having a mega meltdown.

Having said that what the hell is Di Maria going to do in Munich at Bayern Munich when he is not happy in Manchester. He'll either stay here or join his Argentinian mates at PSG. Hopefully he is here to stay.
 
Surely he has to be better then he is showing us at the moment and I think he should stay for at least one more year, but if he does go then he could certainly could prove key to getting a good player in return, PSG, and Bayern keen, it would have to be Marquinhos, Verrati, Robben, or Lewandowski, mind you swap deals rarely happen.
 
I think he's a fantastic player but one we should have never bought, Id be delighted if we can recoup the majority of our money back this summer 50m+ and move on from there, he doesn't come across as being happy in Manchester and I don't think he truly wants to be here so its best for both if he left,

Saying that if he stays you just hope LVG can turn him into a better player for us next season.
 
If we are willing to offer Falcao another chance, then surely we have to give him more time. Next season we will be more settled especially if we get Champions League Football. First half of this season was us trying to fit everyone into a new formation every week. No one clicked. Now that we have a system that works I would love to see Di Maria start. He will have a break after this season since no international football and will have a full pre-season under his belt. I want him to stay.
 
Let him play with freedom - you get the above (and what we saw last season).
Force him to play within himself and you get di Maria of Man United.

Or we could just buy a lot of world class players to play around him.


His poor form has less to do with tactics and more to do with what's going on in his head in my opinion. He was facing the fact he is supposed to be our main man (you cant expect nothing less for the fee we paid) and is struggling to deal with the pressure. The media and the fans were expecting too much.

Di Maria has never been a player that can carry the team on his back nor a World Class player by himself. For me, he is a enabler for others to shine. The more good football players around him, the more he will shine, so of course he was always gonna struggle with us. (Sanchez was a much better fit, what we really needed).


that said, i think we will come back from Copa America with a complete different aura, with the pressure of the first season, GONE!

A good transfer season (Hopefully a couple of big signings that can carry the pressure of the team alongside Rooney), a established set of tactics, and he will be shining for us. (or making the others shine)
 
Or we could just buy a lot of world class players to play around him.


His poor form has less to do with tactics and more to do with what's going on in his head in my opinion. He was facing the fact he is supposed to be our main man (you cant expect nothing less for the fee we paid) and is struggling to deal with the pressure. The media and the fans were expecting too much.

Di Maria has never been a player that can carry the team on his back nor a World Class player by himself. For me, he is a enabler for others to shine. The more good football players around him, the more he will shine, so of course he was always gonna struggle with us. (Sanchez was a much better fit, what we really needed).


that said, i think we will come back from Copa America with a complete different aura, with the pressure of the first season, GONE!

A good transfer season (Hopefully a couple of big signings that can carry the pressure of the team alongside Rooney), a established set of tactics, and he will be shining for us. (or making the others shine)

Largely agree. Although, I think his complete loss of form is due to a range of different reasons.
 
Just going to leave this here..


Look at the space they're giving him though, he doesn't have that in the BPL.

Either way, he can be way better than he has been this past season and should be given a chance with a full preseason at the club and no previous summer tournament where he also ended up heading to the final and getting injured.
 
Look at the space they're giving him though, he doesn't have that in the BPL.

Either way, he can be way better than he has been this past season and should be given a chance with a full preseason at the club and no previous summer tournament where he also ended up heading to the final and getting injured.

But there is the Copa America this summer.
 
Look at the space they're giving him though, he doesn't have that in the BPL.

Either way, he can be way better than he has been this past season and should be given a chance with a full preseason at the club and no previous summer tournament where he also ended up heading to the final and getting injured.

Well, he doesn't in our current set up anyway.
 
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