[clarkydaz]

what leaves people on the fence is the constant debate/rumours if he can be bothered being here. We know the quality he has and dips in form wouldn't be an issue if he was up for the cause in general

 

[Adebesi]

The people that want to sell Di Maria because he's had a difficult season are probably the same ones that then want us to spend £80 odd million on Bale, who's having a difficult season.

Cows in fields and all that.

Although this is presumably intended to ridicule people with said opinion, couldnt it be justified on the basis that what we really want for our 433 system is top quality winger, which Bale is and which Di Maria, arguably, is not?

I would be very hesitant about spending £80m on Bale, personally. But at least we'd be getting a player who has played his best ever football playing in the position in which we would be likely to play him. Which would be an upgrade on our current situation.

 

[dannyrhinos89]

Mirror (I know) says psg are ready to offer 60million for him.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/angel-di-maria-transfer-psg-5429839

Who here would accept the deal?

I'd bite their hand off,

When the money goes through immediately send it to Italy particularly to juventus and bag ourselves Pogba back and jobs a good un'.

 

[Utd7]

Only way I see Di Maria leaving is via a transfer request. No way Ed or even LvG would be keen to sell after one season.

 

[mu77]

laterz.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

If PSG have issues with FFP, it might be easy to manipulate them into a player swap situation than transfer money.

 

[Sandikan]

I don't think it'd be an insane thing to do, to consider selling him if PSG really came in with £60m!
They'd be quite insane to do so though! And we don't usually sell players for good rates

 

[VanGaalEra]

Insane to want to sell him after one season. We've been crying out for a world class winger for how long. We finally get one, and people say he should be sold.

If you sell him, you're left with Januzaj, Young, Valencia and Nani. I'm sorry, that's just not good enough.

 

[Escobar]

He's played around 20 games, some good, some bad ones. Last year, he was a top 5 player. We managed to buy him and the fans already want him to be sold. It's just ridiculous. On one hand you want our players to stay forever here but if someone is out of form you want to kick him out the next day.

 

[Ballache]

I don't think it's about wanting him to be sold, but if reports are true and he's unhappy here then recouping the money we paid for him is a good deal. I think he'll come.good next season but I only want him hhere if he really wants to be here himself

 

[Ballache]

Oh yeah, he's definitely very popular, and one of our most loved players. I see Di Maria, Rooney, RVP shirts everywhere. I can't remember seeing many DDG shirts, especially not on adults. I definitely didn't think he'd sell more shirts than Hazard. Good on him!

I've seen loads but was also surprised a bit with the numbers. I think it simply has to do with the fact that we have most fans in the UK.

 

[Bwuk]

Both him and Rojo played against Ecuador. He got 73 mins, Rojo played the full game at left back. Valencia a unused sub.

Anyone know how they got on?

Edit - apparently di Maria got an assist off of a corner. Assist machine.

 

[NK86]

I'd bite their hand off,

When the money goes through immediately send it to Italy particularly to juventus and bag ourselves Pogba back and jobs a good un'.

How is that a good job? We lose a world class wide player and bag a potentially world class CM. It should not be either/or.

 

[Raoul]

Only way I see Di Maria leaving is via a transfer request. No way Ed or even LvG would be keen to sell after one season.

I agree with this. Tabloid transfer muppetry at its finest.

 

[Freak]

He's played around 20 games, some good, some bad ones. Last year, he was a top 5 player. We managed to buy him and the fans already want him to be sold. It's just ridiculous. On one hand you want our players to stay forever here but if someone is out of form you want to kick him out the next day.

Football fans are generally idiots. A few weeks back, some wanted Mata to be sold. We have a truly world class player in di maria who's abit out of form probably because he's settling into a new league and country, and some think we should sell him. I blame football manager and Fifa.

 

[Raoul]

Football fans are generally idiots. A few weeks back, some wanted Mata to be sold. We have a truly world class player in di maria who's abit out of form probably because he's settling into a new league and country, and some think we should sell him. I blame football manager and Fifa.

Yep, their opinions sway with the wind. Di Maria is a fantastic player and we have only just scratched the surface in terms of what he's capable of. If we're planning on winning the league and CL, we will need players of his quality to get there.

 

[RedStarUnited]

Some in here want him to go so badly that thay have convinced themselves that he doesnt want to be here.

Alexis Sanchez, Diego Costa and Angel Di Maria. What do they share in common? All La Liga Imports who started off brightly and have dipped in form severly in the last 2/3 months. No one at Arsenal wants to sell Sanchez and No one at Chelsea wants Costa gone. But the great United fans want Di Maria sold. And we say Madrid fans are spoiled...

 

[Bwuk]

Some in here want him to go so badly that thay have convinced themselves that he doesnt want to be here.

Alexis Sanchez, Diego Costa and Angel Di Maria. What do they share in common? All La Liga Imports who started off brightly and have dipped in form severly in the last 2/3 months. No one at Arsenal wants to sell Sanchez and No one at Chelsea wants Costa gone. But the great United fans want Di Maria sold. And we say Madrid fans are spoiled...

Yep. I think some of it has to do playing without the winter break and in a more physically demanding league.

 

[JPRouve]

Yep. I think some of it has to do playing without the winter break and in a more physically demanding league.

The winter break can't be an argument there isn't a real winter break in Spain, they 13 days instead of 7, but since he had time to rest during the CL weeks, he had more time to rest this season than in his last 5 seasons.
The fact that he joined a new league, a new country, new teammates and has to adapt to a totally different style of football are more relevant, IMO.

 

[Keyser]

The winter break can't be an argument there isn't a real winter break in Spain, they 13 days instead of 7, but since he had time to rest during the CL weeks, he had more time to rest this season than in his last 5 seasons.
The fact that he joined a new league, a new country, new teammates and has to adapt to a totally different style of football are more relevant, IMO.

I'd also suggest that an unhappy wife and child can have a massive impact on any man, AIUI they are still living in a hotel as she doesnt want to return back to the house. Thoughts of selling him are utterly ridiculous and you'd think people would look at players like Fellaini and Young who have turned their fortunes around one season later before saying such nonsense, especially when he has more talent than the pair of them put together. The best thing for him is for the season to finish, get his wife and kid sorted, get a decent pre season with the team and he'll be awesome for us next season.

 

[Brightonian]

I'd also suggest that an unhappy wife and child can have a massive impact on any man, AIUI they are still living in a hotel as she doesnt want to return back to the house. Thoughts of selling him are utterly ridiculous and you'd think people would look at players like Fellaini and Young who have turned their fortunes around one season later before saying such nonsense, especially when he has more talent than the pair of them put together. The best thing for him is for the season to finish, get his wife and kid sorted, get a decent pre season with the team and he'll be awesome for us next season.

This.

 

[dannyrhinos89]

How is that a good job? We lose a world class wide player and bag a potentially world class CM. It should not be either/or.

Pogba is already a world class CM Yet still so Young.

Meanwhile we will be stuck with a more expensive version of nani.

 

[Di Maria's angel]

I'd also suggest that an unhappy wife and child can have a massive impact on any man, AIUI they are still living in a hotel as she doesnt want to return back to the house. Thoughts of selling him are utterly ridiculous and you'd think people would look at players like Fellaini and Young who have turned their fortunes around one season later before saying such nonsense, especially when he has more talent than the pair of them put together. The best thing for him is for the season to finish, get his wife and kid sorted, get a decent pre season with the team and he'll be awesome for us next season.

You should be very careful when posting logical explanations, could get you in a lot of trouble.

 

[Dante]

When you're worried about your family, life's priorities change. Di Maria looks terrified of getting clattered, and I wouldn't be surprised if that comes from a renewed sense of self-preservation. Fear about the future will do that to you.

 

[bosnian_red]

I don't see why fans care so much about how much we spend on players right now, we basically have an unlimited amount to spend, so who gives a feck at how much we spend so long as we get the right player? Nobody really cares we spent 30m on Shaw because hes English and will likely be our main left back for 10-15 years. Di maria is a world class player on form, and we brought him in. Who cares if we paid 10m more then what he was worth? The important thing was we have him and we would be a worse side overall without him to choose from. The guy creates chances more then anyone else. Its madness to want him gone after 1 season where he was below par but still has by far the most assists.

 

[Snow]

I'd also suggest that an unhappy wife and child can have a massive impact on any man, AIUI they are still living in a hotel as she doesnt want to return back to the house. Thoughts of selling him are utterly ridiculous and you'd think people would look at players like Fellaini and Young who have turned their fortunes around one season later before saying such nonsense, especially when he has more talent than the pair of them put together. The best thing for him is for the season to finish, get his wife and kid sorted, get a decent pre season with the team and he'll be awesome for us next season.

Didn't know that. You sure? That sounds like a massive inconvenience. Not a great start to a life in a new country.

 

[Keyser]

Didn't know that. You sure? That sounds like a massive inconvenience. Not a great start to a life in a new country.

Yeah IIRC they bought a place, he was away with Utd, some people tried to break in whilst they were in the house. They've since been living in the Lowry and she won't return to the house, I think it might even be up for sale. This was all Jan/Feb time I think, so don't know if its been resolved but I don't think so.

 

[Cmz']

I'm taking stats from WhoScored here and they may look completely different if you use goals/assists per minute but you'll get the general picture:

Costa = 13 Goals and Assists in 21 games before January
10 Goals + Assists in 13 games since January 1st

Fabregas = 21 Goals and Assists in 25 games before January
4 assists in 15 games since January 1st

Sanchez = 21 Goals and assists in 26 games before January
7 goals and assists in 15 games since January 1st

Di Maria = 9 goals and assists in 12 games before January
5 goals and assists in 14 games since January 1st

Looking at the main 4 signings from La Liga, the only player who's goals + assists have improved in the second half of the season is Costa, the other players have all struggled massively and even then there's an argument that whilst stats wise Costa may have been more productive, performance wise his levels have dropped.

There's no way on earth I'd advocate selling di Maria this summer unless it was made absolutely clear that he didn't want to be here, a year ago he was seen as one of the best players in the world, that ability hasn't gone away overnight and even if we were to sell him, who else would we get in? By all accounts Bale is seen as the successor to Ronaldo at Madrid and so they have no intention of selling him and Ronaldo himself must be fairly close to breaking the Madrid goalscoring record so I can't see him leaving this summer. Even talk of selling Di Maria to buy Pogba is odd when it's clear we'd have enough money to afford Pogba without sales. As long as he's happy at United then I'd keep him, no matter what PSG or others offer us.

 

[HabeasC]

I'm taking stats from WhoScored here and they may look completely different if you use goals/assists per minute but you'll get the general picture:

Costa = 13 Goals and Assists in 21 games before January
10 Goals + Assists in 13 games since January 1st

Fabregas = 21 Goals and Assists in 25 games before January
4 assists in 15 games since January 1st

Sanchez = 21 Goals and assists in 26 games before January
7 goals and assists in 15 games since January 1st

Di Maria = 9 goals and assists in 12 games before January
5 goals and assists in 14 games since January 1st

Looking at the main 4 signings from La Liga, the only player who's goals + assists have improved in the second half of the season is Costa, the other players have all struggled massively and even then there's an argument that whilst stats wise Costa may have been more productive, performance wise his levels have dropped.

There's no way on earth I'd advocate selling di Maria this summer unless it was made absolutely clear that he didn't want to be here, a year ago he was seen as one of the best players in the world, that ability hasn't gone away overnight and even if we were to sell him, who else would we get in? By all accounts Bale is seen as the successor to Ronaldo at Madrid and so they have no intention of selling him and Ronaldo himself must be fairly close to breaking the Madrid goalscoring record so I can't see him leaving this summer. Even talk of selling Di Maria to buy Pogba is odd when it's clear we'd have enough money to afford Pogba without sales. As long as he's happy at United then I'd keep him, no matter what PSG or others offer us.

Completely agree with this. It would be madness to sell one of our few players who can stake a claim to being world class. Look at Ozil, it took him a year and a half to acclimatise to the English league but has been one of the best players so far since the turn of the year.

If it is the same case in 1/2 years time, then fine, think about selling Di Maria. But to sell him now would be ridiculous.

 

[Snow]

Can't really compare it like that. A goal is a goal and as a striker you're much more likely to be in position to score one.

With the assists, sometimes the assist isn't as important as what happened before. The pass that breaks up the defense and sends two players against the keeper is much bigger than the layoff to the side that follows.

Also, because of his position Di Maria does more defensively than the other three and the stats back that up. All in all, these 4 players have all good stats.

 

[Di Maria's angel]

Yeah IIRC they bought a place, he was away with Utd, some people tried to break in whilst they were in the house. They've since been living in the Lowry and she won't return to the house, I think it might even be up for sale. This was all Jan/Feb time I think, so don't know if its been resolved but I don't think so.

I think they rented the house and, as you say, have no plans to move back.

 

[Di Maria's angel]

Can't really compare it like that. A goal is a goal and as a striker you're much more likely to be in position to score one.

With the assists, sometimes the assist isn't as important as what happened before. The pass that breaks up the defense and sends two players against the keeper is much bigger than the layoff to the side that follows.

Also, because of his position Di Maria does more defensively than the other three and the stats back that up. All in all, these 4 players have all good stats.

There's quite a few reasons as to why di Maria hasn't done as well as expected, most of which will be branded as excuses. The league, new team, his position, to name a few, with the most contributing factor being our unsettled team. The stats above show that he's done quite well in comparison to the others, given that he spent the first few months of his premier league career playing in a severely dysfunctional team, whilst playing in three or four different positions.

He's just the flavour of month; next month it'll be another player who's on the verge of leaving or isn't happy...

 

[NK86]

Pogba is already a world class CM Yet still so Young.

Meanwhile we will be stuck with a more expensive version of nani.

This guy was Madrid's best or second best player in their decima winning season and he is a more expensive Nani? Based on some rough form in a new league and having language issues while also being affected because of the break in in his house? You must be a tough task master. Anyway, I am sure we won't be selling him unless he himself wants out in no uncertain terms.

Ediy: And Pogba is definitely not world class yet, not for me at least.

 

[bosnian_red]

This guy was Madrid's best or second best player in their decima winning season and he is a more expensive Nani? Based on some rough form in a new league and having language issues while also being affected because of the break in in his house? You must be a tough task master. Anyway, I am sure we won't be selling him unless he himself wants out in no uncertain terms.

Ediy: And Pogba is definitely not world class yet, not for me at least.

Pogba isn't world class yet... People see his highlights and the goals he scores but there's a lot of things he has yet to learn. His positioing and generally his whole defensive side can get a lot of work done. He will be world class one day, but not quite yet imo.

 

[Roman Bellic]

Pogba isn't world class yet... People see his highlights and the goals he scores but there's a lot of things he has yet to learn. His positioing and generally his whole defensive side can get a lot of work done. He will be world class one day, but not quite yet imo.

Those bloody vine accounts on twitter.

 

[RetroStu]

Saw a piece in The Sun today saying that DiMaria wants to stay and that he's told PSG he has no intention of leaving us for them.
I didn't have time to give it a good read so i don't know if there were any actual quotes or anything.

 

[YouOnlyLiveTwice]

He is one of the best creative players in the world, when he signed with us LvG said he is a world class midfielder, and i hope we will use him as one next season.
When we buy the box-to-box midfielder we need to create the balance, we can give Di Maria the freedom he needs to be creator of the team, and then i think he will be huge for us.

 

[Varun]

Saw a piece in The Sun today saying that DiMaria wants to stay and that he's told PSG he has no intention of leaving us for them.
I didn't have time to give it a good read so i don't know if there were any actual quotes or anything.

No quotes.

 

[soapythecat]

Can't understand fans wanting him sold. His settling in period was massively affected by the break in, it's understandable he is pissed with that - it's always going to affect you, regardless of how much money you can throw at moving.
Look at his assists this season when he has played poorly for the majority of it. There is no way the club would sell unless he really threw his toys out of his pram. He is the biggest shirt seller in the PL, the club won't let him go easily.
Not that I buy what the papers say, but if there is any elements of truth about him wanting to stay and fight for his place, then we could have a magical player on our hands next season.

 

[Kag]

Talk of sale is silly. His numbers are very good and his poor form has been overstated. He makes mistakes throughout a game, but that's the player we bought. He makes up for it with guaranteed creativity, which he demonstrated twice as recently as Anfield.

We need to keep and continue to buy the world's best players, not sell them. With a settled team and balanced formation I suspect he will improve in line with everybody else.