when you put it that way...From a £60m superstar signing to a player that we are genuinely debating whether he should start ahead of Ashley Young
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
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- Goals
- 4
- Assists
- 13
- Yellow cards
- 3
- Red cards
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10 of Di Maria's 12 assists this season.
Brilliant!
Has to start vs villa, miles better in the final 3rd then Ashley Young
His first three assist on that video were mishit shots
He needs to bring that back to his game
He needs to bring that back to his game
Anyone see how he played tonight? Or got a vid for his assist for argentina? Failing that are there any body language experts that will use finer details presumably with his relationship on the pitch with lavezzi, to further prove he is PSG bound? Ok seriously now tho, i just want to know how he played.
This really is a tough call. On the one hand, we'd be mad to mess around with the formula that has yielded two great games, games in which Ashley Young more than played a part. On the other, Aston Villa strikes me as an ideal game to get a sense of where Di Maria is at, particularly with some huge games against top-4 rivals coming up. I'd be tempted to start Di Maria, being ready to bring on Young if things go pear-shaped.
That's what I posted in the Euro qualifiers thread:
How did Di Maria do?
I was switching between Argentina and the Netherland game, but from what I could see he was OK. Played on the right, was captain and took every set piece (Messi was on the bench injured), a couple of great deliveries to Tevez, but also a couple of balls Young and Valencia would be proud of
All in all as with us didn't hide, had the ball a lot, was substituted after 75 mins. Was also a bit of unfamiliar line up, the likes of Mascherano, Rojo, Aguero, Messi not playing.
Regarding the body language: I can assure you that his good deliveries were directed towards Paris whereas the bad ones towards Manchester. Based on that he is definitely off!
Some Salvador players seem to wearing gloves, which suggests it was cold; how on earth did they persuade di Maria to play? And how did he get an assist?
Mirror (I know) says psg are ready to offer 60million for him.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/angel-di-maria-transfer-psg-5429839
Who here would accept the deal?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/angel-di-maria-transfer-psg-5429839
Who here would accept the deal?
We all know its B.S, but to answer your question.....absofeckinglutely!!
£60m for Di Maria is £25m more than he is worth.
If we can get what we paid for him then sell him and replace him .
If we can't , then keep him and hope he comes good next season .
If we can't , then keep him and hope he comes good next season .
I thought PSG couldn't afford him last season due to FFP. What has changed since then?
You lot are all stark raving bonkers. Yes he has had a 50/50 start for us so far, but he will get better and more consistent. You just want to sell a world class player like that?. Mad the lot of you
You lot are all stark raving bonkers. Yes he has had a 50/50 start for us so far, but he will get better and more consistent. You just want to sell a world class player like that?. Mad the lot of you
Tend to agree with this. Despite being 'awful' all season and only starting 19 of 30 games, he still has the second highest amount of assists in the league!
Every time he plays he creates something. Against Newcastle he could have had 2/3 more if we finished properly and stayed onside. Yes he recently has lost the ball a lot when playing on the wing, but he is a high risk player.
Once he learns how to deal with physical pressure without going down asking for free kicks, he will be much better.
I wouldn't sell him, no way in fact. I think he deserves more than one season to prove him self.
Seems very short sighted to give up on Di Maria after one season - these are the people who will be first aboard the bandwagon once he starts hitting form. What we need is stability, not overhauling the squad every 12 months.
No games, paper needs something to talk about. Nothing in it, move along.
I'd keep him for one more season. I don't think we bought him for his re-sale value. We bought him because he's world class, and was one of the best in the world last season. He's under performing, but we've seen numerous players take longer than a season to settle and come good. He's a quality player, and I don't believe he's just lost that ability. We saw flashes of it in the first part of the season.
Totally unrelated, but apparently he has topped the shirt sales for this season in the PL as well, and quite significantly.
Angel di Maria (Man Utd) - 9.59%
Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) - 3.80%
Diego Costa (Chelsea) - 2.27%
David de Gea (Man Utd) - 2.16%
Eden Hazard (Chelsea) - 2.10%
Wayne Rooney (Man Utd) - 2.09%
Radamel Falcao (Man Utd) - 1.99%
Steven Gerrard (Liverpool) - 1.76%
Sergio Aguero (Man City) - 1.46%
Robin van Persie (Man Utd) - 1.20%
De Gea is surprising. Who buys goalkeeper shirts?
Totally unrelated, but apparently he has topped the shirt sales for this season in the PL as well, and quite significantly.
Angel di Maria (Man Utd) - 9.59%
Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) - 3.80%
Diego Costa (Chelsea) - 2.27%
David de Gea (Man Utd) - 2.16%
Eden Hazard (Chelsea) - 2.10%
Wayne Rooney (Man Utd) - 2.09%
Radamel Falcao (Man Utd) - 1.99%
Steven Gerrard (Liverpool) - 1.76%
Sergio Aguero (Man City) - 1.46%
Robin van Persie (Man Utd) - 1.20%
De Gea is surprising. Who buys goalkeeper shirts?
Ddg is a very popular player and after last season I'm not surprised. Goalkeeper shirts are good for winter
Never thought for a second he'd be as popular as that!
Record transfer signing for the world's first/second biggest club on easily our most famous shirt number. Not that surprising.
Surprising that it's triple the next closest, though.
it depends on factors we cant really know without being on the inside. Is there any truth to the suggestion he is unhappy? Of course it is all speculation for us, but Van Gaal will know. And if he isnt happy Id be inclined to take the deal. Van Gaal has said he doesnt like having players who arent on board with his methods or dont want to be there for any reason. If Di Maria falls into that category we'd be doing well to recoup our money, and to be fair even if he improves its hard to see him improving enough to make that fee seem like good business.You lot are all stark raving bonkers. Yes he has had a 50/50 start for us so far, but he will get better and more consistent. You just want to sell a world class player like that?. Mad the lot of you
If its all nonsense and he is happy (except for with his form which presumably is a source of frustration for him - if it isnt that is a different problem) then fine, let's keep him. Though unless he is a complete revelation next season it will still go down as an example of us overpaying for a player.
We should keep him at least one more season, that would be the logical thing to do. But if a 60m offer comes, we probably should take it, he is not a perfect fit for us, will be 28 in a year and the fact that he can't claim one position in the team for himself, shows that despite his assists record, he isn't good enough in the game.
With 60m-75m, you can sign two very good players who can be a better suit for us and our possession game.
With 60m-75m, you can sign two very good players who can be a better suit for us and our possession game.
Judging by Herrera's recent adjustment and form coming back into the team, I'm suprised many advocate selling such a top player in Di Maria when his output is still decent even though he isn't fully adjusted to the team/setup yet
They haven't bought David Luiz for 50m this season (yet)
You're right. Only sell him if he doesn't want to be here.
With regards to the bold segment, going back to the World Cup and observing the way in which van Gaal utilised Robben, you can't help but think that di Maria will be used in the same style. Robben was almost excused from the possession based style and allowed to play his natural game; and I'm presuming the same will be/has been applied to di Maria. Moreover, if we were to sell him for the rumoured amount, his reported replacements, Bale/Depay/Moura?, aren't exactly suited to van Gaals style of play, either.
Wouldn't they have to sell, first? And then use the funds to buy di Maria?
I wouldn't agree with that. Van Gaal's Bayern team especially was notable for using players like those you mention - pacey wingers who try to take their man on. That's part of the reason he shifted Schweinsteiger (who was a slow right midfielder) into the centre and opted for Robben/Ribery on the wings when he was there.
Even some of his biggest supporters have said he is a world class central midfielder and a fairly inconsistent and frustrating winger.
It looks increasingly unlikely that Van Gaal envisages using him in the midfield position in which he earned himself all those plaudits at Real Madrid. Van Gaal doesnt like his "risky" players in central midfield. He is the box to box midfielder who caries the ball forward - and yet what is the top of our shopping list for the summer? "A defender!" I hear you shout. Ah, OK. So what is the second top of our shopping list for the summer, then? A winger? OK, damn you, what is the third top of our shopping list for the summer? Right! A box to box midfielder. So Van Gaal doesnt intend to use Di Maria there. Or it doesnt seem so.
So if the above is correct, we are left with the prospect of having a £65m, inconsistent and frustrating winger. We already have one of those, called Nani. If we could recoup our £65m and keep Nani for free, what exactly have we lost?
If he wants to stay Id still be tempted to keep him and trust Van Gaal to do something to get those top performances out of him. Maybe he will find a way to get him playing in the position in which he excels. But I have to say the bit of this that seems least likely to me is that anyone is going to pay £65m for him.
It looks increasingly unlikely that Van Gaal envisages using him in the midfield position in which he earned himself all those plaudits at Real Madrid. Van Gaal doesnt like his "risky" players in central midfield. He is the box to box midfielder who caries the ball forward - and yet what is the top of our shopping list for the summer? "A defender!" I hear you shout. Ah, OK. So what is the second top of our shopping list for the summer, then? A winger? OK, damn you, what is the third top of our shopping list for the summer? Right! A box to box midfielder. So Van Gaal doesnt intend to use Di Maria there. Or it doesnt seem so.
So if the above is correct, we are left with the prospect of having a £65m, inconsistent and frustrating winger. We already have one of those, called Nani. If we could recoup our £65m and keep Nani for free, what exactly have we lost?
If he wants to stay Id still be tempted to keep him and trust Van Gaal to do something to get those top performances out of him. Maybe he will find a way to get him playing in the position in which he excels. But I have to say the bit of this that seems least likely to me is that anyone is going to pay £65m for him.
No they have the fund, they will need to sell someone only to keep the wages bill reasonable.
Ddg is a very popular player and after last season I'm not surprised. Goalkeeper shirts are good for winter
Oh yeah, he's definitely very popular, and one of our most loved players. I see Di Maria, Rooney, RVP shirts everywhere. I can't remember seeing many DDG shirts, especially not on adults. I definitely didn't think he'd sell more shirts than Hazard. Good on him!
That's exactly what I meant; should have made it clear. di Maria is more than capable of playing in our team and according to the style. Those saying he can't don't understand the role of wingers/wide forwards. The aforementioned players I mentioned, as replacements, will occasionally lose the ball, and as a result, will be crucified, by our fans, for taking risks and not playing to the possession based style.
I love the player but that's incorrect, Di Maria is a World class assist maker, he has played like a World class central midfielder for 6 months in a counter attacking team with a special organization in midfield, and with an offensive trio who takes 4 players from the opposing team at all time.
He is a very good winger, frustrating because of completely daft choices, but at the same time he is very consistent in term of assists, even out of form he will provide them.
Oh ok, I assumed they had to balance the books, as Chelsea seem to be doing, and sell first.
I fully agree, it's absolutely crazy people want him gone because he has experienced a dip in form since December, when in truth the whole system and players were suffering. He is still World class, just needs to rediscover his form and confidence again, which he will. He doesn't just lose all that ability overnight, I remember not so long ago he was ripping Germany a new one while he was on International duty.You lot are all stark raving bonkers. Yes he has had a 50/50 start for us so far, but he will get better and more consistent. You just want to sell a world class player like that?. Mad the lot of you
It's not exactly that. PSG are allowed to buy one player per summer for up to 60M € (it has to be spent on ONE player), and then any additional buys need to be covered by sales.
It's not exactly that. They can buy MORE than one player by summer but they can't expend their wage bill.
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