I bet once spring starts and a bit of sunshine comes he'll be better.
I know this sounds crazy, but I actually am beginning to think this.
It'll be interesting to see how he does in April and May as these are warmer months.
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- Goals
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- Assists
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- Yellow cards
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I know this sounds crazy, but I actually am beginning to think this.
It'll be interesting to see how he does in April and May as these are warmer months.
Is that Costa in the top of the table, CL team?
Before January Di Maria wasn't very good last season and Madrid is not very warm in the winter.
Is di Maria in bottom-half table team who hasn't been in CL for 10 years?
Are you suggesting Arsenal are playing anything like us at present. Here's one for you, how many utd players would start for Arsenal on the last 10 games performances?
Costa is a striker who plays for Hazard and Fabregas, two players who created more chances than all our players together (I'm exaggerating).
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Argentinian at United, it's something that will never work
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Spot on.
We should bring in better players and let him be a devastating supporting player. He is the type of supporting player we have to have if we want to get back to being one of the best teams in the world.
Forget what he says and look at what he's doing. His performances aren't those of an out of form player, they are the performances of someone unmotivated and just going through the motions.
There is a huge difference between someone trying hard yet not being able to find their touch, and someone not concerned whether they have their touch or not. He's the latter.
You were one of those that had a same opinion of Young. You have absolutely no idea what so ever. Not being funny but how you've come to that conclusion beggars belief.....
And our strikers can use the same argument for di Maria, after all he's known for his creating skills, surpassing the best players in assists tally and so on. People make it sound like he's playing for a fecking Stoke.
So you are blaming a player's performances solely on the team surrounding him not doing well? Even when Arsenal wasn't doing well, Sanchez was performing. He had his struggles, I'll give di Maria those as well, but it's been too long now.
EDIT: And we're still ahead of Arsenal by the way.
Did you followed Di Maria before this season ?
He's one of the worlds top, top players. Proved it at club and international level. He's played outstanding in big games. No question about his pedigree. Maybe some patience wouldn't go amiss by some fans.
Di Maria is second only to Fabregas in terms of assists. He was crap today but still created our best chance in the first half. Rojo and Young both should've scored.
So you think he's deliberately miscontrolling balls and misplacing passes because he doesn't care? If that's the case LvG would have pulled him off after 10 minutes. You could see what he was trying to do with his passes/crosses, but they didn't have accuracy. That happens to every player, if you're out of form this happens more often.
He's going trough a rough patch and he has never been Mr. Consistent. He's been trough these phases at Benfica and Real Madrid aswell, was he not bothered back then either? He might be unhappy at the moment (which can happen in a new country, bad circumstances etc.) but that doesn't mean you don't give your all in every match. And how are you so sure he's unmotivated? People are writing off players too quick here.
It's only stats but Di Maria is pretty good in that department with 44 chances created, that's around David Silva (48) numbers.
The last time I watched football and played at a decent level, the game was played by 11 players. The games also a lot easier when your playing with quality performers around you. Where's Sanchez at present....and despite our league position, how many players would get into the Arsenal side on this seasons form?
Then why bring up the shit 'accomodation in the new league' card up? It's not like people are constantly slating him, he's had a shit game, deserves the criticism, pretty simple stuff really. Not questioning his pedigree either but he's been nothing short of terrible today.
@JPRouve I know, on top of that he's our top assisting player at the moment, I've got no problem with him whatsoever but I find it amusing that people try to weirdly defend him from criticism when he's had a shocker like today.
Basically we paid 'match winner' money for a guy who isn't a match winner.
We should be looking at bringing in a focal point, and somebody who's proven their ability to win matches consistently.
We overpaid, but what's done is done. He'll still be useful if we can get in a proper match winner like Bale. But anyone expecting Di Maria to handle being the main man will be left disappointed.
We should be looking at bringing in a focal point, and somebody who's proven their ability to win matches consistently.
We overpaid, but what's done is done. He'll still be useful if we can get in a proper match winner like Bale. But anyone expecting Di Maria to handle being the main man will be left disappointed.
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Heinze and Tevez did fine for us.
Veron is an exception.
It's too early to judge Di Maria.
In general, it is just silly to say that players from the XYZ nation will not do well at United. It is not the 1980's any more.
I don't think that we defend his last performance, we are defending the player morality some posters who obviously never heard of him before, are creating an alternate reality where Di Maria is a consistent player who is in fact, playing shit because he is not happy or because like flowers only rise under the light and warmness of the spring.
When the reality is that a lot of posters haven't watched Real Madrid play last season or the seasons before and still think that he is a consistent middle of the field player.
It is clear that very few posters on here actually saw his whole stint at Madrid or even the last season one. As a winger he was always an erratic player, he is not someone who is going to have solid outings consistently. Also last season, he did not magically turn into a CM. He was deployed a runner in the midfield who could pick up the ball from deep and burst forward, very important for a CA team. Also the movement of Ronaldo from left to center, allowed him to run that wing as well. He has also never been a slick assist provider, someone who will thread through a pin point pass or even a cross. His run and shot during the CL final, which was eventually turned in by Bale, aptly typifies the type of attacking contribution, he is most likely to affect.
Problem right now is that he is not having good games in between the bad ones, it is mostly few bad games in between average ones. I think that is more to do with our whole team right now. Di Maria is not a player that can flourish in an average team. He needs to play in a team that is playing well.
Problem right now is that he is not having good games in between the bad ones, it is mostly few bad games in between average ones. I think that is more to do with our whole team right now. Di Maria is not a player that can flourish in an average team. He needs to play in a team that is playing well.
Fair enough that.
I don't think he's ever going to fit with LVG's style of play. He's far to adventurous a player.
He needs to play in a team that play fast, counter attacking football. Not slow, safe, possession based stuff. He needs to take risks. That Madrid team was perfect for him, no wonder he's looking like he doesn't want to be here, because, he probably doesn't. Seems like another case of a great player, bought to the club at the wrong time. Ala Veron, Berbatov and Mata.
It is beggars belief that LVG would sanction a deal for £60 million on a player that seems to go against every basic principle he wants in a footballer.
He needs to play in a team that play fast, counter attacking football. Not slow, safe, possession based stuff. He needs to take risks. That Madrid team was perfect for him, no wonder he's looking like he doesn't want to be here, because, he probably doesn't. Seems like another case of a great player, bought to the club at the wrong time. Ala Veron, Berbatov and Mata.
It is beggars belief that LVG would sanction a deal for £60 million on a player that seems to go against every basic principle he wants in a footballer.
I genuinely believe LvG came in underestimating the job. I think his mindset was that David Moyes spectacularly failed in everything and with his profound self belief in his philosophy, his mere arrival would make us improve. A lot of United fans pinned everything on Moyes, and I believe LvG did too so maybe that's why things took a while to get going in the window. He thought we were better than we were. He was probably shocked at the level of quality we have. He's contradicted and backtracked so much from what he said in the summer.
There were glimpses of his quality and class in this match, but overall, he wasn't that good. He did deliver in some sweet, dangerous crosses that our players didn't convert, and his movement was also quite good, but he was consistently failing to beat van Aanholt whilst Januzaj bettered him, and his deliveries, whilst pretty good, were quite inconsistent. I think the moment when he didn't pass to Young in the first half decided it for van Gaal.
He can still be a great attacking threat and chance creator for us, but his reckless style of play won't make him as consistent as Hazard at the moment. I think what van Gaal's trying to do is to refine di Maria's game so that he isn't reckless and inconsistent, and this will take time. Initially, I believe van Gaal wanted to give him all of the freedom to play his natural game, but after seeing how inconsistent he's been, he's trying to control di Maria's recklessness and convert it to ruthlessness. This is similar to what van Gaal tried to do with Ribery at Bayern Munich, I feel.
Even if he is inconsistent, you could see the quality and class in his game. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
He can still be a great attacking threat and chance creator for us, but his reckless style of play won't make him as consistent as Hazard at the moment. I think what van Gaal's trying to do is to refine di Maria's game so that he isn't reckless and inconsistent, and this will take time. Initially, I believe van Gaal wanted to give him all of the freedom to play his natural game, but after seeing how inconsistent he's been, he's trying to control di Maria's recklessness and convert it to ruthlessness. This is similar to what van Gaal tried to do with Ribery at Bayern Munich, I feel.
Even if he is inconsistent, you could see the quality and class in his game. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
Maybe an idea to give him a couple of weeks off, let him and his family have a break, and get some sun on his back.
Hopefully by the time he's back he will be fresh, have some confidence back, and spring will have sprung, and he can have a proper impact for some of the big games we have ahead.
Long term I am of a mindset that he will be a much better player for us next season having had the settling in time, same goes for Shaw.
Hopefully by the time he's back he will be fresh, have some confidence back, and spring will have sprung, and he can have a proper impact for some of the big games we have ahead.
Long term I am of a mindset that he will be a much better player for us next season having had the settling in time, same goes for Shaw.
How on earth do you come to that conclusion? You've genuinely just made all that up in your head.
Rojo seems to be working so far.
Painful watching him. Hooking him was the right thing. Still back him but he needs to wake up and realise the things that are contributing to him having poor performances.
And yet even when everybody is playing poorly, you can still be the one to work extremely hard. I don't see that with di Maria on a consistent basis. Early on in the season, we weren't doing well and in some games, he single-handedly carried us to victory or prevented us from losing. That hasn't happened in a while though, which is why he deserves the criticism.
Aside of that, you're pretending as if we're a side facing a relegation when in reality, we're still in third place.
Players who would get into that Arsenal side? Herrera, Carrick, Smalling, Rojo, de Gea are all names I could see in Arsenal's lineup just from the top of my head.
He did this all the time at Madrid. He has games like this where he constantly gives the ball away. In general the solution is to switch the position he's playing or sub him off and get him some rest. Nothing to worry about.
You do know some players in LvG's system have freedom? His so called creative players can take risks, Di Maria is one of them. As long as the rest of the team are rigid and in shape it doesn't matter if Di Maria loses the ball high up the pitch. He wouldn't have played a full 90 minutes at all if he couldn't take risks, because he's way to adventurous for a player who doesn't have this freedom.
I think we need to take him out of the team for a couple of games to see if that has an effect on him. He was very poor again today.
I agree with you. Just how I feel.
How is his average rating 6.2? That is too high compared to a lot of others. He has been awful for a while now. Well done to LvG for taking him off, it was deserved. Wouldn't start him midweek. He needs to sort himself out.
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