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Di Maria could overtake Falcao as premier league flop of the season if he doesn't get his act together quickly....it's extremely frustrating as in glimpses looked like he could emulate Giggs but most of the time he just miss-hits simple passes or crosses. I fear that we won't see anything decent from him until next season when he is more settled
 
So his attitude is the problem, not that he's out of form?
or both?

People believe he doesnt care and media is carefully bringing that story out every few days to keep it alive.

Stuff you want
Tackling and closing players down - Half as often since joining United.
Creating chances - Down 25%.

Stuff you don't
Shots from distance - Up 50%.
Dribbles in the middle third - Up 50%
Loss of possession dribbling - Twice as often.

Not saying it's an attitude thing, but he's doing half the defensive work and ball harrying he did at Real Madrid, attempting more dribbles in sillier places and situations and trying to shoot way more than someone scoring 1 in every 12 shots for the last half decade (Valencia's scored 1 in 8) should.

It's like every positive trait has lessened and every bad one has got much worse. His performance at the World Cup was almost exactly like his performance at Real Madrid, in terms of the workrate without the ball and decision making. It's at United that that's dropped off.

Whether that's him, the manager or what, it isn't media invention.
 
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I totally agree, we didn't need Di Maria or Falcao but I think it was to make a statement. I'm glad we bought him though because if used correctly he will be a massive player for us.

I disagree. We definitely needed Di Maria. If not Di Maria, then a player like him. Fast, mobile, dangerous. Our lack of pace last season was glaring. We looked a better side with Welbeck in the side purely for his pace and graft, but his end product was minimal.
 
Stuff you want
Tackling and closing players down - Half as often since joining United.
Creating chances - Down 25%.

Stuff you don't
Shots from distance - Up 50%.
Dribbles in the middle third - Up 50%
Loss of possession dribbling - Twice as often.

Not saying it's an attitude thing, but he's doing half the defensive work and ball harrying he did at Real Madrid, attempting more dribbles in sillier places and situations and trying to shoot way more than someone scoring 1 in every 12 shots for the last half decade (Valencia's scored 1 in 8) should.

It's like every positive trait has lessened and every bad one has got much worse. His performance at the World Cup was almost exactly like his performance at Real Madrid, in terms of the workrate without the ball and decision making. It's at United that that's dropped off.

Whether that's him, the manager or what, it isn't media invention.

Because I think he sees himself (or with LVG's choice) as our best player and maybe that's why he wants to carry us offensively way too much and not enough defensive work. At Madrid Ronaldo had that special "freedom" status and basically the rest of the team had to work hard with ADM being one of their most hard working player.
 
Mark Chapman (BBC presenter) was on the radio yesterday, he was at the Preston game and sat right next to the United bench. He said one thing that stood out was throughout numerous players were looking repeatedly towards the bench as if wanting some tactical instruction, Di Maria in particular was doing it a lot.

Interesting. If that is true then it's probably time for van Gaal to be more vocal in matches, or at least try to get some messages out onto the pitch via Giggs.

I disagree. We definitely needed Di Maria. If not Di Maria, then a player like him. Fast, mobile, dangerous. Our lack of pace last season was glaring. We looked a better side with Welbeck in the side purely for his pace and graft, but his end product was minimal.

I agree with this. We needed him because we lacked pace - severely, and quality. For some reason though he hasn't performed since the start of the season. Is it the winter grind? His position? Just a form slump? Lack of motivation? Who knows.
 
I disagree. We definitely needed Di Maria. If not Di Maria, then a player like him. Fast, mobile, dangerous. Our lack of pace last season was glaring. We looked a better side with Welbeck in the side purely for his pace and graft, but his end product was minimal.
What I ment was a marque signing smashing the British transfer record, to put it in perspective we could have had Fabregas and Costa for the same price as Di Maria!
 
He will get dragged down to the rest of their levels after a few games, it happened with Mata, it'll happen with him.

It is a certainty sadly, the style won't happen that quickly for Angel not to be contaminated.

I am afraid of this aswell. .

This worries me.

It was predicted back in August ffs :lol::(.

We really do have a unique ability to seemingly ruin players then minute they walk into Old Trafford.
 
It was predicted back in August ffs :lol::(.

We really do have a unique ability to seemingly ruin players then minute they walk into Old Trafford.

When I said those words I really hoped it would be completely false :lol: Kinda scary how some of our predictions turned to be so spot on.
 
Im sometimes reminded of this post of Plech's. He was talking about Liverpool and I dont think he was specifically talking about how Liverpool brought in some good players and seemed to suck the quality out of them - but it fits into that narrative. If a club is rotten, a great player can arrive and soon he will start to rot too.

Yeah there's something rotten at that club and has been for years. An actual pathology... I do think institutions can have a kind of character and a kind of health, and in their case the whole club has a psychological disease.

Probably at the root of it is the success they had - there's a massive sense of entitlement and the failure of reality to conform with it results in paranoia and cognitive dissonance. It's something we should be wary of, because our success can't last forever.

That said, MikeUpNorth made the point the other day that becoming a PLC made us up our game and join the professional world in a way Liverpool didn't. The kind of thing we've seen from their PR and legal departments is inconceivable at United.

I hope we havent got to this stage yet but I do worry.
 
Im sometimes reminded of this post of Plech's. He was talking about Liverpool and I dont think he was specifically talking about how Liverpool brought in some good players and seemed to suck the quality out of them - but it fits into that narrative. If a club is rotten, a great player can arrive and soon he will start to rot too.



I hope we havent got to this stage yet but I do worry.

That's a great quote.
 
When I said those words I really hoped it would be completely false :lol: Kinda scary how some of our predictions turned to be so spot on.

Its unnerving how spot on those predictions were. I'd bet good money there would be posts in the same fashion early on in the Mata thread as well tbh.
 
He's a massive talent - something we desperately needed.

When the team settles, with some new additions, I think he will shine.

We should have bought Sanchez too!
 
Nah we'd be misusing them as well.

This is the truth of it all. If Chelsea had signed Di Maria, he would be trashing the league right now. If we had signed Fabregas, we'd have already sold Blind because De Gea would have taken his spot as the sole central midfielder of the team, after having been displaced as sweeper-keeper by Cesc (as passing it out from the back is so important, of course). I don't think Sanchez would be doing so well in this team either. We would make any player look rubbish at the moment.
 
Just been watching some clips of his first month here. Jesus christ he was electric, on another level to every other outfield player we have. Shame that its tailed off. What are people's thoughts on the reason for this?

Weather?
Injury?
Confidence/not wanting to be here?

Strange how much he has regressed.
 
Why are people surprised that he's trying to do stuff more himself than he did at Madrid? Ronaldo, Bale, Benzema, Modric etc all could make something out of nothing, all he had to do was consistently feed them in, which he did with aplomb. Nobody in our team can move forward with the ball so it's all on him...
 
"The Metro report that AS journalist Manuel ‘Manolete’ Esteban told Spanish TV show La Goleada, ‘Di Maria has confessed to someone at Real Madrid that he regrets joining Manchester United."

I mean come on.
 


It's bullshit?......there's no smoke without fire? I dunno, it's been brought up a lot and you do start to wonder, he doesn't look overjoyed here IMO, amazingly Ander looks far more pumped for his stuttering United career than the undroppable Di Maria does.
 
Understandable. He has commented on how he doesn't like the weather, and that learning English has been difficult. Then there's the attempted break-in, and the fact that we play dogshit football. He can't be too overjoyed right now.
 
Obviously we can't trust tripe which says "He has told a friend/someone.....", but I have said for a while that he doesn't look like he's enjoying being here. Then again, maybe the media have just assumed that too and just made up a story about it - very likely.
 
I doubt it's true. Yet, he does look constantly miserable and has been playing shite. So who knows. Not fussed either way tbh, haven't really warmed to the guy that much.
 
I don't mind him regretting the move. I really don't want him fecking playing like he regrets it. That's not "fair enough" at all.
No, that isnt fair enough. Im keeping those two things separate at this stage. Both things are speculation to some extent - that he isnt happy and that his performances are poor because he isnt happy. But I think the first one is a safer assumption that the second. Plenty of people would rather be somewhere else but still play well so hopefully, if he is unhappy, we can at least get to that stage.

Basically Im hoping that everything falls into place sooner rather than later with Van Gaal's management, we start winning, we move up the table and secure CL football, spring arrives, the evenings get longer, his home security system is improved and proves its worth and he starts to feel a bit better about life. Manchester is a great place in the summer.
 
I don't live in Manchester but I was there for a week in December last year and I absolutely love the city. And he's earning more than enough to be happy living in it. Man up and play your football
 
I doubt it's true. Yet, he does look constantly miserable and has been playing shite. So who knows. Not fussed either way tbh, haven't really warmed to the guy that much.

Some time ago, Rojo told an Argentinian sport journalist (for espn latam) that Di Maria was really affected after the robbery in his house, plus that he was having issues settling in. He also said that the players were not happy inside the dressing room with all the change in tactics, formations, player positions, etc.

It might be true he regrets the move at this exact moment. But i think as soon we stop fecking around as a club (specially Van Gaal), and start giving some continuity to our playing system (hopefully one without Fellaini and including Mata), moods gonna change eventually. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
 
Some time ago, Rojo told an Argentinian sport journalist (for espn latam) that Di Maria was really affected after the robbery in his house, plus that he was having issues settling in. He also said that the players were not happy inside the dressing room with all the change in tactics, formations, player positions, etc.

It might be true he regrets the move at this exact moment. But i think as soon we stop fecking around as a club (specially Van Gaal), and start giving some continuity to our playing system (hopefully one without Fellaini and including Mata), moods gonna change eventually. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

Wow did he really say that?
 
Some time ago, Rojo told an Argentinian sport journalist (for espn latam) that Di Maria was really affected after the robbery in his house, plus that he was having issues settling in. He also said that the players were not happy inside the dressing room with all the change in tactics, formations, player positions, etc.

It might be true he regrets the move at this exact moment. But i think as soon we stop fecking around as a club (specially Van Gaal), and start giving some continuity to our playing system (hopefully one without Fellaini and including Mata), moods gonna change eventually. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

Is it this interview http://www.espnfc.com/manchester-un...er-marcos-rojo-we-will-not-give-up-title-hope ?

He sounds pretty happy with LvG if it is.
 
Wow did he really say that?

it was a comment off the record to the ground journalist covering someevent (he was in argentina for some reason... cant remember exactly)

Yep. pretty much. Though he said "some" of the players, so its probably the whole spanish speaking players (doubt he speaks english yet and makes sense because they are directly the players affected).
 
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It's no surprise to me that as the weather has got colder, so has Di Maria's form. Wait until the weather heat's up, he will be on fire :drool:
 
I've been hugely surprised at his lack of impact. The first few games he looked really dangerous, if a bit wild, but I feel like he's shackled himself so as to keep possession more, thereby taking away his greatest assets.
 
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