Ange Postecoglou | New Spurs boss on 4 year contract

Tottenham have hired and fired roughly the same amount of managers as Chelsea (including all caretakers and interims, we’ve both had a bunch of them) the last 25 years.

We have a reputation of a club that is ruthless and lacking in patience. Tottenham have never really been spoken about as a club with a revolving door in the hot seat.
 
WeePat said:
Tottenham have hired and fired roughly the same amount of managers as Chelsea (including all caretakers and interims, we’ve both had a bunch of them) the last 25 years.

We have a reputation of a club that is ruthless and lacking in patience. Tottenham have never really been spoken about as a club with a revolving door in the hot seat.
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You've been ruthless with a lot of managers who have won the biggest trophies around.

Can't say the same for spurs.
 
B20 said:
You've been ruthless with a lot of managers who have won the biggest trophies around.

Can't say the same for spurs.
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That distinction is probably important, to be fair. I used to just always feel going through 5 managers in 6 season was something uniquely Chelsea in the PL. I was surprised when I looked up Tottenham’s list of managers how often they hire and fire them.
 
Bale Bale Bale said:
I count Davies as a main CB, so four, problem is we've had three of the four out injured and now Dragusin's picked something up. It's hard to account for but there's likely also some correlation between how Ange plays and the prevalence of injuries we have. We have a couple of young CBs out on loan but again we're talking about teenagers, we shouldn't be in a position where we're relying on them. Gray in isolation has actually done pretty well there all things considered, it's not ideal but that's all we have at the moment. I don't want to pin everything on injuries but when your game is based so heavily around high energy and intensity, it's not a shock that we've fallen completely flat when we're flogging the same players from game to game. I guess this is where Ange is supposed to adapt/change but he's told us enough times by now that he won't so not much point exploring that. Today wasn't really a case of tiredness or kamikaze tactics though, more just a lack of quality to break down a stubborn Forest side and got done on the break.

I like Ange and when it goes well it goes really well, that's the only reason I'm ok with letting this play out as everything else really points towards him deserving the sack.
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Davies steady eddie for sure but the trouble there is Udogie has had a few injuries so if Davies was fit himself he'd be having to fill in at LB currently.

Surprised given Gray and Bergvall were signed that a young CB wasn't scouted and signed either. First thought was Branthwaite but Spurs would never pay what Everton will want for him.
 
He only has himself to blame for the constant defensive injuries. A reckless high line and endless recovery sprints will cause muscle injuries. We saw it with ten Hag and his gaping hole of a midfield too. It’s not a shock that their main injuries are coming in their backline with the way they play.

It’s infuriating that he refuses to take on board any responsibility. If I were a Spurs fan, I would be sick of him and his excuses and arrogance.
 
Trying really hard to be as shit as us, but hasn't quite managed it yet.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
You can tell football is a truly cursed sport when I would actually prefer to be shit in the way that Spurs are shit, rather than our Manchester United specific version of shit.
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Yeah. You can at least see a world where they could be taken over by a competent manager and recover quite quickly. No such thing for us.
 
WeePat said:
Tottenham have hired and fired roughly the same amount of managers as Chelsea (including all caretakers and interims, we’ve both had a bunch of them) the last 25 years.

We have a reputation of a club that is ruthless and lacking in patience. Tottenham have never really been spoken about as a club with a revolving door in the hot seat.
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Chelsea's have been higher profile, they've sacked Premier League and Champions League winners. Basically all of Spurs' sackings have been deserved except maybe Pochettino and even that one you could make a case for.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
You can tell football is a truly cursed sport when I would actually prefer to be shit in the way that Spurs are shit, rather than our Manchester United specific version of shit.
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I kind of agree. They're extremely flimsy defensively but they score a good numbers of goals - only Liverpool have scored more in the league this season. The obvious caveat being Postecoglou's had 18 months to shape this team in his image and had the opportunity to sign an almost entirely new attack.
 
FootballHQ said:
Davies steady eddie for sure but the trouble there is Udogie has had a few injuries so if Davies was fit himself he'd be having to fill in at LB currently.

Surprised given Gray and Bergvall were signed that a young CB wasn't scouted and signed either. First thought was Branthwaite but Spurs would never pay what Everton will want for him.
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We did. Phillips and Vusokvic
 
Pogue Mahone said:
You can tell football is a truly cursed sport when I would actually prefer to be shit in the way that Spurs are shit, rather than our Manchester United specific version of shit.
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Yeah winning feck all since 2008 would have been much more fun than a cup final win v our city rivals six months ago
 
horsechoker said:
Chelsea's have been higher profile, they've sacked Premier League and Champions League winners. Basically all of Spurs' sackings have been deserved except maybe Pochettino and even that one you could make a case for.
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Same with Chelsea though, perhaps with the arguable exception of Ancelotti and Tuchel.
 
Since the lucky cup win against Man United it's played three no win and conceded nine goals.

For the 12 minutes of added time the camera man spent a lot of his time on Ange big face and Levy looking glum in the stand.

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FootballHQ said:
Never heard of the second guy. Phillips on loan at Stoke currently and still only 19, only 12 games for them aswell out of 24.
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This was the other day. He's only 17 but is built like a 20-odd year old

 
WeePat said:
Tottenham have hired and fired roughly the same amount of managers as Chelsea (including all caretakers and interims, we’ve both had a bunch of them) the last 25 years.

We have a reputation of a club that is ruthless and lacking in patience. Tottenham have never really been spoken about as a club with a revolving door in the hot seat.
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We have an idiot in charge deciding when to hire and sack. And you give the manager players he needs. Levy low balls on the manager’s wishes and then gets a bargain bin alternative, then doesn’t give the manager the chance to develop them. You can’t expect instant results unless you buy players who are finished product, proven at the top level.

Levy is a decent accountant, that’s it. If he left the football to football people and went off to the Bahamas and had a good time, we’d probably have won something by now. Instead he spends every day snooping and meddling around at the training ground and giving cringe pep talks to players when that’s what the manager should be doing. Just watch his discussion with Ndombele.

I want Ange to be given time to develop the players and system. Sacking him and replacing with another midtable manager will just end up right back at the same spot in 12 months. It will take anyone years to succeed with Levy’s stupidity to deal with.
 
SirBillNic said:
We have an idiot in charge deciding when to hire and sack. And you give the manager players he needs. Levy low balls on the manager’s wishes and then gets a bargain bin alternative, then doesn’t give the manager the chance to develop them. You can’t expect instant results unless you buy players who are finished product, proven at the top level.

Levy is a decent accountant, that’s it. If he left the football to football people and went off to the Bahamas and had a good time, we’d probably have won something by now. Instead he spends every day snooping and meddling around at the training ground and giving cringe pep talks to players when that’s what the manager should be doing. Just watch his discussion with Ndombele.

I want Ange to be given time to develop the players and system. Sacking him and replacing with another midtable manager will just end up right back at the same spot in 12 months. It will take anyone years to succeed with Levy’s stupidity to deal with.
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Im not sure if it's Levy or your recruitment team but if it is the recruitment team they need to go out the door with big Ange. Werner not good enough for Chelsea who wanted to push for top 4 so Spurs go and get him? Apart from that you brought in a bunch of kids(Dragusin, who?) who may turn out to be top class players, but then again they may not. The only players of note you brought in was Solanke, who for me is not that much of an upgrade over Richarlison and Maddison, who is actually good, the kind of player who can unlock a tight defense.
 
So a win tomorrow will take us above Spurs and we are a relegation fodder .

Football is strange.
 
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