This has been going on pretty much since David Moyes was manager. It's amazing that it has taken this long to even investigate it.
Andy Mitten: United carried out an investigation into leaks from the dressing room
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I agree. It's normal for things like this be discussed in a private conversation between two people. It's not Lingard that announced it on national TV is it?
Ummm you do know that Scholes as a pundit is now a member of the press don’t you?
Itz Lingard Wot did it !
As much as I dislike the rat as a player, we have no proof it was him, or that he’s the only one.
There could be two or three snitches, for all we know.
Not necessarily all players either……….
…..“Oi ! Phelan. Stop texting in company time and put those fekkin cones out. NOW !”
It could be anyone.
As much as I dislike the rat as a player, we have no proof it was him, or that he’s the only one.
There could be two or three snitches, for all we know.
Not necessarily all players either……….
…..“Oi ! Phelan. Stop texting in company time and put those fekkin cones out. NOW !”
It could be anyone.
Scholes is technically a member of the press. The only difference is that he actually named Lingard when he "broke the story".
I'm not saying that is proof that Lingard is responsible for past leaks btw.
Lingard leaked the information to Scholes who in turn spread it. Lingard's intention may have been fine but unless he wanted Scholes to spread it then he was a bit silly considering how much Scholes talks about us in a negative light (rightfully so).
How do you carry out an investigation into leaks? Its impossible unless you hack their phones or bug their houses. Even then its probably not them who goes to the press. They tell their Uncle/brother/friend and give them the contact of the journalist. Its just nonsense
this quote sums the side up.
"The players are also culpable. They let Ole Gunnar Solskjaer down in his final two months, but they’re also very frustrated by how they can’t speak out about Rangnick to answer some of the public criticisms he’s putting their way"
Instead of taking it on the chin and accepting responsibility, they are still trying to blame Rangnick and clap back at him. Meh.
"The players are also culpable. They let Ole Gunnar Solskjaer down in his final two months, but they’re also very frustrated by how they can’t speak out about Rangnick to answer some of the public criticisms he’s putting their way"
Instead of taking it on the chin and accepting responsibility, they are still trying to blame Rangnick and clap back at him. Meh.
Everyone slating Scholes for letting everyone know about the dressing room but really he's playing 4D chess and was letting us know it was Jesse leaking stuff all along. Maybe not.
How are people defending Lingard when Scholes came out and said Lingard told him the dressing room is a mess.
That is what you call a leak, telling people outside the dressing room that there is issues.
Not anyone, Scholes who works in the media.
That is what you call a leak, telling people outside the dressing room that there is issues.
Not anyone, Scholes who works in the media.
He is a pundit and ex player who knows almost all the young players, having off the record conversation is not same as leaking info to journalists.
Do you guys believe that players don't share info about club/dressing room with their friends and families? Scholes just said some info which he shouldn't have, it has nothing to do with Lingard. Scholes made a blunder there.
Most of them will be gone anyways and looks like we have given lot of power to ETH to clear out the players he doesn't want.
Hopefully we will have much better atmosphere at the club, which again depends on winning games and trophies.
But he is a member of the press.
Ok.
It quite clearly wasn't off the record though. Otherwise Scholes wouldn't have said "I'm sure Jesse won't mind me saying..."
The fact that Mitten states the club are happy these leaks will reduce next season suggest that said player(s) are leaving. Using Occam's Razor we can deduce its one of the free transfer crew and with other briefs and bits that have got out in recent weeks it looks highly likely Lingard is leaking info the press.
I don't see too many defending him.
However, the Scholes episode doesn't prove that Lingard has been leaking stuff to the media for years - which is what some people seem to believe.
As for the episode itself, it's not inconceivable at all that Scholes went and told everyone something Lingard told him in confidence. To be blunt, Scholes comes across as a bit thick.
Doubtful.
If Scholes knew Lingard was the dressing room leaker all along, he would have told us in a way that leaves nothing open to interpretation. E.g: "Jesse Lingard was the dressing room leaker all along. Lynch him, lynch him". At the very least, he would have told the manager or chairman.
Scholesy knows as much as the rest of us which is nowt.
In later interview or social media post, Scholes said he shouldn't have passed that info and he didn't really think about it before saying that.
People can pick one player or even 2 players and keep blaming them, these leaks are happening since SAF retired, which is also the time we stopped winning trophies. Also journalists write so much shit but for some reason people believe everything, as if journalists only report truth.
I work in law and have a lot of close friends who sometimes take on matters where I would have a conflict of interest. Being friends with eachother doesn't mean there aren't things you shouldn't talk about.
Assuming Lingard and Scholes are that close Lingard still should have known that leaking internal information to a member of the media makes him a very silly boy.
I honestly don't care about what he told Scholes but you are making it sound like something he told to his wife in private. He knows what Scholes does for a living.
"The dressing room is a mess."
This is an info that someone has to leak?
It was known to everybody. Even the naive and innocent Redcafe members.
This is an info that someone has to leak?
It was known to everybody. Even the naive and innocent Redcafe members.
Guess the white text wasn't obvious enough...
What if this was the leaker who leaked the story of an “investigation” of the leaker being found out and won’t be a problem next year?!
Has anyone seen the current edit on Colleen Rooney's wiki page? 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleen_Rooney
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleen_Rooney
I see no white text, which I guess is the point but not in this case?
It's all very confusing.
Damage limitation after the fact doesn't change the fact that Lingard spoke to a person in the media about the dressing room culture.
It's one thing confiding in a partner or close friend, who isn't about to speak on live TV, but it's naive at best for him to speak to anyone, ex player or not, when he knows minutes later they'll be on TV.
Could brendan with his i have 3 envelope thing
It was Doris, the tea lady !
Lingard told me.
Lingard told me.
There was one time that Neville mentioned he knew who the player(s) is/are and a week later he responded ''here we go water/sweat drop emoji'' on report of Rashford is considering his future being unhappy right after the City's game on Twitter. Based on that, the direction points on Rashford as one of the player.
A few summer ago, MEN would write articles that mirrored topics discussed on the caf with a 2 to 3 weeks delay. So yeah, I'm 100% that what you are suggesting is correct.
Ed Woodward
I don't really have an issue with Lingard speaking to Scholes, I'd imagine conversations like that happen with past and present players quite often. If the intent of the conversation was to air it out in public, as it is when they send it to mainstream journalists, then there's a big issue.
I'd imagine there's more than one source though, knowing the characters in our squad.
I'd imagine there's more than one source though, knowing the characters in our squad.
Throw the book at him!
Who?
Him!
Who?
Him!
Swagatha Christie.
Lingard should be tied up against a goalpost and players should be forced to kick balls at him.
I'd pay to watch it. For good measure tie rashford at the other post.
I'd pay to watch it. For good measure tie rashford at the other post.
Not saying Lingard isn't guilty or is actually guilty but the Scholes and Lingard thing doesn't really indicate that Lingard is one of the leaker IMO. Scholes is Man United ex player and legend, and also player that Lingard worked with before in training ground. Lingard had good reason to share this to Scholes who is Man United legend and ex-player that Lingard respects if the guy he respects the Man United legend asks him a question or Lingard himself wants to ask opinion how to solve the issue, while Scholes's job is to keep it secret. Scholes isn't journalist so he had no reason to share this in public since he's going to get money from it anyway. He paid as a pundit and sharing this information won't give him extra bonus paid. It's like Ronaldo spoke to Sir Alex the other weeks.
Surely they could answer his criticisms by turning in good performances.
Its Lingard. Investigation closed.
Great point. Stop looking for someone to blame, look in the mirror, take responsibility and improve.
Will be interesting to see if the leaks continue next year.
After reading about this whole Rebekkah Vardy thing - it's probably someone's missus/brother/mate isn't it?
Probably but it could also be a club employee that the public don't know.