[C'est Moi Cantona]

Seems Jose is on the ball re the better kids already, if he can integrate Pereira and Tunazebe into the squad, whilst progressing CBJ, Mensah, and Rashford then job done, Williams and Januzaj have to be in his plans somewhere too, sure a few will loaned though, along with Wilson, Keane, McNair etc.

And people were mocking our kids a few months back..

 

[P-Nut]

Seems Jose is on the ball re the better kids already, if he can integrate Pereira and Tunazebe into the squad, whilst progressing CBJ, Mensah, and Rashford then job done, Williams and Januzaj have to be in his plans somewhere too, sure a few will loaned though, along with Wilson, Keane, McNair etc.

And people were mocking our kids a few months back..

Williams is at least 1 full season away from even getting sub appearances for me and I'd possibly make the 2 with some of the youth already in the squad. If we start integrating him in 2 years he should be a fully fledged member of the squad just as we start phasing smalling out. If only football worked that well nowadays.

 

[Rozay]

Williams is at least 1 full season away from even getting sub appearances for me and I'd possibly make the 2 with some of the youth already in the squad. If we start integrating him in 2 years he should be a fully fledged member of the squad just as we start phasing smalling out. If only football worked that well nowadays.

Why on earth would we be phasing Smalling out in two years?! He's what, 25/26 now?

 

[P-Nut]

I said by the time he's a fully fledged member of the squad. I wouldn't consider him fully fledged the second he starts making a couple of late sub appearances myself. Pereira has been going through the process for a couple of years now and it's the same for most youth players tbh.

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

Williams is at least 1 full season away from even getting sub appearances for me and I'd possibly make the 2 with some of the youth already in the squad. If we start integrating him in 2 years he should be a fully fledged member of the squad just as we start phasing smalling out. If only football worked that well nowadays.

Yeah wasn't saying Williams was ready just that Jose will know about him by now.

For me Pereira of all youth players deserves a chance this season, Januzaj, and to a lesser extent Wilson have had a chance and not really taken it, so if there's one senior squad position up for grabs in front of the defence then I hope he gets it, then loan Januzaj, and Wilson out again.

If Rojo goes then Tuanzebe could easily make the bench (at least) this season, could do even if stays.

 

[P-Nut]

Yes I'm quite interested in TFM as he seems a typical Mourinho player however he isn't ready to play in his actual position week in week out.

I'm struggling to think which route would be better for his development playing RB most weeks or getting sub appearances with the odd start at cdm.

 

[limerickcitykid]

Williams is at least 1 full season away from even getting sub appearances for me and I'd possibly make the 2 with some of the youth already in the squad. If we start integrating him in 2 years he should be a fully fledged member of the squad just as we start phasing smalling out. If only football worked that well nowadays.

He has already taken to the u21s with ease, the last thing he needs is another two seasons there.

 

[Duafc]

Talent wise, I rate him the highest of our youth. I really think he has the quality to be a top player, if he can piece it together.

His feet, invention and passing are very very good already. You just wonder if he has the decision making and competitiveness that seperate stood technicians from top class players.

Oddly, England might be just the worst league for him.

 

[Cutch]

I know it was a pre season game and all that and i've bleated on a bit already but thought everything he did today just exuded class. Think his first 2 touches (that weren't picked up by the commentators) were deft flicks that were fairly basic but the type only a player that knows everything thats going on around them and trusts their ability will attempt. You can tell in no time who is just a natural footballer and he is one of those, the type that you're utterly disgusted if they miscontrol or hit a stray pass. In 45 minutes i seen 1 stray pass and the rest was class.

 

[Devil may care]

I really liked what he showed in the deeper role, his control, composure and passing off either foot was quality.

 

[RDCR07]

Right now we have Rooney and Mata for the #10 position, Herrera and Bastian for the #8 position, Schneiderlin and Carrick for the #6. When one of them gets injured, not if, he should be the first choice to come into the squad.

 

[ReDDHDevilS]

He should go out on loan. His game won't develop by either warming the bench or getting a few minutes here and there. He needs to play week in week out for his development and that won't happen at United at this moment in time.

Give him a new 5 year contract because it'd be a real shame to lose him and then loan him out to a PL club where he'll get enough game time.

 

[Scorpy]

That pass for Valencia was world-class.

 

[Stack]

It was last year, he was utilised as a winger in that pre-season and still managed to impress - getting a goal or two. Not only that but he scored another wonder goal in the U20 World Cup among some fantastic sub appearances for Brazil during the same Summer.

Many of us were thinking Van Gaal not buying Pedro (though I'm glad we didn't) was in favour of giving players like Pereira a chance. Frustrating that he barely featured for us even when he showed good performances in his cameos.

I attended the U20 world cup games he played in and he scored a couple of excellent goals as well as some really great dribbling and passing. However he also made some seriously awful pass attempts and was pretty inconsisten in his displays at the tournament. He spent a few games as a sub because of this. He could be absolutely brilliant and then absolutely awful within the space of 10 minutes in games.
Im a huge fan of his and really hope he makes it but I can imagine if he was displaying that sort of inconsistency in training or training games then to me it would be a possible reason why he didnt get much game time under LVG. It wasnt just LVG who was wary of him, his own Brazil U20 coach was the same. Consistency will come, hopefully this season.

 

[Tiber]

I love him, really hope he gets a proper chance at United... I am still bitter about Rossi

 

[RDCR07]

 

[RDCR07]

 

[criticalanalysis]

^He's 20 doing interviews with the monotone of a 32 year old, who's been in the league for 15 years lol.

 

[NinjaZombie]

He should go out on loan. His game won't develop by either warming the bench or getting a few minutes here and there. He needs to play week in week out for his development and that won't happen at United at this moment in time.

Give him a new 5 year contract because it'd be a real shame to lose him and then loan him out to a PL club where he'll get enough game time.

I agree. No point in him sitting on the bench and getting 10 minutes here and there.

If he'd have been a product of a smaller club like say, PSV, he'd have been getting regular football and impressing and would probably be getting the attention of bigger clubs right about now.

 

[Freak]

Apart from the goal and that pass to Valencia, it most mostly short passes to the fullback. What was so impressive about that? I didn't watch the game.

 

[Bastian]

Look extremely composed in a deeper midfield role. That diagonal pass to the right was Scholes-like, not Rooney-like.

Also, is someone going to gif the Mata/Keane hug - captain competition worthy

 

[Ephrem]

Apart from the goal and that pass to Valencia, it most mostly short passes to the fullback. What was so impressive about that? I didn't watch the game.

composure and calmness in the deeper role which only Carrick has in our squad

 

[Ephrem]

He could replace herrera easily in two years . Should mould his game on modric or verrati

 

[Raees]

Yes I'm quite interested in TFM as he seems a typical Mourinho player however he isn't ready to play in his actual position week in week out.

I'm struggling to think which route would be better for his development playing RB most weeks or getting sub appearances with the odd start at cdm.

In an ideal world.. both would be at EPl clubs like Everton or Saints, starting every game in midfield. TfM as a CDM and Andreas as a CM. They just need a year on loan.

 

[P-Nut]

In an ideal world.. both would be at EPl clubs like Everton or Saints, starting every game in midfield. TfM as a CDM and Andreas as a CM. They just need a year on loan.

I sort of agree, however I don't think there's currently a Clun in the prem in a position to do it. Also, being away from the club in mourinhos first year might not be the best option I feel. With the Europa league and League cup games plus any sub appearances they can manage there are games to be had for them. It's down to whether or not they take their chance.

 

[ti vu]

Look promising as #6. Quickly transit the ball (if you compare to Herrera, Mata Carrick) without losing the composure and accuracy. Too soon to draw any line but if he can keep,up, he definitely could be serious contender.

Seems like Herrera and Blind got more minutes so Mourinho can assess them. Blind as utility player while Herrera in that #8 role.

 

[Insanity]

My favorite current U21 player along with Januzaj; starting to believe that he is much more talented than Adnan. The kid oozes class and has calmness on the ball that only a few players are gifted with. The vision and passing are excellent too. I am desperate for him to make it here. I'd happily sacrifice Herrera if it means that he'll be a regular part of our midfield next season.

However,



I don't know what that means. That he needs to develop away from the limelight of OT?

I actually won't mind if we send him out on loan to a team where he can rack up 30-35 starts. At his age he needs to start games, make mistakes and learn from them; 10 minutes off the bench every two or three games isn't going to help him. Players of his ilk aren't a dime a dozen. We'll be scrambling to buy him for 100m if somehow manage to lose him.

 

[Scarecrow]

Started falling asleep at around 70mins, he looked ok, Are people getting carried away?

Of course. It's pre-season, that's what you do.

 

[RDCR07]

Started falling asleep at around 70mins, he looked ok, Are people getting carried away?

He definitely has the potential. Its been clear for around 24 months now. The question will he get his chances to truly show us what he can do? This is a make or break season for him I think. If he stays he needs to get game time. If we cant give him that he HAS to go out on loan where he can be a regular starter.

 

[Sammyjunn]

Was class in last season's pre season, hope he can get a spot, is more talented than Januzaj, Memphis, Lingard, Wilson imo.

 

[JeffBoomTetris]

Apart from the goal and the pass, didn't do much. For a small Brazilian player, he looks leaden footed. Didn't really assert himself in the 45 minutes that he had.

But the promise is definitely there. He should try to model his game after Verratti with those quick zigzag dribbles and incisive passes. Not just a sideways pass to the fullback

 

[Lawman]

Apart from the goal and the pass, didn't do much. For a small Brazilian player, he looks leaden footed. Didn't really assert himself in the 45 minutes that he had.

But the promise is definitely there. He should try to model his game after Verratti with those quick zigzag dribbles and incisive passes. Not just a sideways pass to the fullback

And sleep.

 

[DWelbz19]

Apart from the goal and the pass, didn't do much. For a small Brazilian player, he looks leaden footed. Didn't really assert himself in the 45 minutes that he had.

But the promise is definitely there. He should try to model his game after Verratti with those quick zigzag dribbles and incisive passes. Not just a sideways pass to the fullback

Is this Brazilian and zigzag enough for you?

 

[ti vu]

Apart from the goal and the pass, didn't do much. For a small Brazilian player, he looks leaden footed. Didn't really assert himself in the 45 minutes that he had.

But the promise is definitely there. He should try to model his game after Verratti with those quick zigzag dribbles and incisive passes. Not just a sideways pass to the fullback

I don't agree with this assessment. Veratti is natural deep players maker and has been honing his skill there. Pereira only has his first game in senior level as #6. If you ask Veratti to play winger or #10 then you can easily criticize him for not playing like an attacker too.

Pereira did very well this game if you compared to Carrick & Herrera. Don't expect bossing possession all game. that's not what Mourinho wants. Perreira keep the game moving. Quick touch and pass . If you look at Herrera and Carrick and Mata who usually slow down play even without pressure for no reason with excessive extra touch, Perreira did better.

He was a deep lying play maker. If he can keep the game moving like this, no need to zig zag dribbling as there is no point with no pressure. Please no Lallana pointless Cruyff turn.

 

[Dante]

Mourinho may be trying to turn him into Modric.

Other than Carrick and Schweinsteiger, who are both a bit slow and one-paced, we don't have anyone else who can set the temp of our passing in the middle third. Even someone like Pogba won't solve that issue. Pereira might. He's really improved his one-touch game recently.

 

[caisenma]

I just hope he carries on what he started here. If he can play as a deep lying centre mid, great. I dont care where he plays, I just want to see him succeed here.

 

[Devil may care]

When I look at the role he played yesterday I don't see how he didn't do much, it's a metronome role, not a flashy one designed fore YT vids.

 

[JeffBoomTetris]

Is this Brazilian and zigzag enough for you?

Well, I'll be. That's quite some individual play right there. He does have it in his locker, then.

I don't agree with this assessment. Veratti is natural deep players maker and has been honing his skill there. Pereira only has his first game in senior level as #6.

Pereira did very well this game if you compared to Carrick & Herrera.

What do you think should be his best position? Because, to me, his light weight nature doesn't look appropriate for a #6 nor does he have the huff & puff of a #8.

Carrick played the deepest of all our midfielders. So, comparing him with Andreas isn't proving anything. Herrera, imo, did better yesterday. Perreira moved the ball better. But, Herrera was better off the ball and was always on hand in empty space for a pass

 

[ti vu]

Well, I'll be. That's quite some individual play right there. He does have it in his locker, then.

What do you think should be his best position? Because, to me, his light weight nature doesn't look appropriate for a #6 nor does he have the huff & puff of a #8.

Carrick played the deepest of all our midfielders. So, comparing him with Andreas isn't proving anything. Herrera, imo, did better yesterday. Perreira moved the ball better. But, Herrera was better off the ball and was always on hand in empty space for a pass

I don't know really. First time see him play as #6 and he did very well. We don't know the detail, but he can improve his defensive quqlity under Mourinho for the #6 role. Alonso, Carrick despite his tall physique is quite weak/ light weight, Pirlo, Busquet, Verrati... made names in this position. The key is the balancer role #8 to offset the weakness of the #6. If Mourinho sees future for Pereira in this role, then he surely knows to build a team to help him out. At the moment, I don't know any better.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

@Emdad Ahmed

That was the U20 World Cup final as well.