He doesn't need a loan. A loan is not always the right/compulsory route in player development. In fact, the higher the talent, the lesser a need for a loan. He needs to continue training with the first team and be given an opportunity to stake a claim for a starting shirt. He's that good.
Andreas Pereira | 2014/15 Performances
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If we sign another midfielder in January, a six month loan would be a very good idea. We don't play enough matches this season to give him playing time.
Any word on his new contract?
Yeah, Woody/LVG needs to sort out the contract ASAP.
Nice to see him make the bench again today. With 3 other midfielders on the bench there is slim chance of seeing him play but good to see him involved in the squad none the less.
Will be fine to bring him on once we've gone 4-0 up with 20 mins to go
Worrying his contract hasn't been sorted still. Can talk with all other clubs from January.
You know he's the sort of player every top club in Europe has at least half an eye on.
That said, Van Gaal's clearly going to some lengths to make him feel like he has a future here. Practically a regular on the bench at the moment, ahead of quite a few older lads.
Agreed, I'm sure that's been noted by Pereira himself. Furthermore, it also helps that he doesnt have to watch Fabio in centre mid ahead of him!
Another game in which he seems to have really struggled to complete passes at times.
I know young players sometimes have that issue, and a player like Herrera performs well while being inconsistent in his passing and Pereira obviously has excellent agility, dribbling and good vision, but that worries me a lot from a central player.
Di Maria and Herrera are both similarly direct, low-ish percentage passers, so maybe he can fit into the team without too much trouble as the team will be used to creative but lower percentage passing from the CM's, but it seems like this is a serious issue to me.
Comforting to have Van Gaal around, as his record with developing young players is so good that he'll likely know what to do. He seems to like Pereira judging from his inclusion in squads, so maybe I'm overreacting to the few performances I've seen of him and in training he rarely gives it away.
I know young players sometimes have that issue, and a player like Herrera performs well while being inconsistent in his passing and Pereira obviously has excellent agility, dribbling and good vision, but that worries me a lot from a central player.
Di Maria and Herrera are both similarly direct, low-ish percentage passers, so maybe he can fit into the team without too much trouble as the team will be used to creative but lower percentage passing from the CM's, but it seems like this is a serious issue to me.
Comforting to have Van Gaal around, as his record with developing young players is so good that he'll likely know what to do. He seems to like Pereira judging from his inclusion in squads, so maybe I'm overreacting to the few performances I've seen of him and in training he rarely gives it away.
Not really sure where you're coming from tbh, even when he's trying to make things happen his passing percentages are high. How much of him have you seen?
Not near enough to be definitive (Maybe like 4ish full games and every one of these "every touch" clips online) I could be wrong.
Are there stats for his passing?
I take it you don't agree. That's good. I hope he's Xavi with his distribution, It's just that the things that jump out at me about his game are his agility/ability to create space with a feint and his passing being a bit all over the place for an attacking mid. You have to be pretty damn good as a passer to make it as a central player for a top team who is picked for his ability going forward rather than his defensive/all around work.
Yet another reason I really wish we were half-assing through the Europa League and seeing him play at a high level with Fletcher or Fellaini along side him, Januzaj and Wilson getting starts in attack with whoever needs a game and Blackett/McNair/Thorpe getting some good game time too.
If anything I'd say his passing is one of his best things. Of course it can be a bit inconsistent now and then like all players, nobody is saying he's a Scholes now, but he's certainly got an eye for a pass and has the ability to pull it off.
His passing is like Herrera in a way. Agree with whoever said that though he is more of a dribbler and slightly lesser passer maybe.
Not the most consistent tiki taka passer if you get what you mean who will retain possession while he can make some very good passes as well. His touch and other technical is pretty good though.
Not the most consistent tiki taka passer if you get what you mean who will retain possession while he can make some very good passes as well. His touch and other technical is pretty good though.
He has the look about him that makes me think he will be unphased by the step up and I like that he's playing deeper now.
Really rate the lad, look how much he tries to speed up the game and pass forward in that vid, I think that is one of his biggest strenghts, his weakness is the concentration with the sloppy short passing all the time. He is the closest to Herrera in terms of playing style, also has huge workrate and isnt afraid to put in a tackle. Renew his contract.
I've watched the vast majority of games he's played for us. I wouldn't say Xavi, but Fabregas would be a fair comparison for the possession/aggression balance of his passing. You really don't have to worry about him being a player who gives it away too much, it's not something I've ever really considered a problem for him. You must have caught a couple of off-colour matches, which he certainly does have now and then.
It's actually Fabregas who makes me confident that Pereira's future is definitely as a #8 not a #10. He's a very similar player in style, possibly slightly more inclined to dribble. But he's actually more defensive, with an excellent tackle in his locker.
I wouldn't say Fabregas either. Fabregas is incredibly good at playing short 1-2s in and around the box. Andreas can't do that. Fabregas can also play as a #10 with creative passing. I don't think Andreas has shown he can do that which is why he's really kicked on while playing deeper. To me, Andreas has always felt it hard to create in the 10 position with his passing. Whenever deployed there I found him good at using his footwork to create space for himself to shoot. Much different from Adnan in that position who used to always look for killer passes even if some weren't executed perfectly and always made it seem like he had a ton of time on the ball (at youth level). Maybe in time he can perform in that position, but right now I think he's shown that he can't despite the odd highlight from time to time. So I agree with you on that bit.
I think Herrera is most similar in style.
Agree, playing deeper has really helped him, he looks a different player to last year where you could say he was a little inconsistent and selfish at times. This years he's been consistent, looks more a team player and using his skill set more effectively. He certainly looks a player who could make a step up, problem is we have far too many player now in that area of the pitch in the first team, maybe after the next transfer window he will have more opportunity though we have to get him signed up first.
I don't think we do at all. He is playing the Herrera role and in the first team we only have Herrera for that role with Fellaini as an option for something different. I don't see Fletcher playing much and there is no one else to play that more B2B role.
I really like Perreira. Genuinely hope he gets his chance here. Looks a class above as Reserves level now and is surely on the cusp of a few Premier League appearances.
I love his composure on the ball and how unnerved he is in possession. Demands the ball in (what would be to lesser players) vulnerable positions, controls it nonchalantly, drops a shoulder or two to make the yard for the pass, and flicks it around the corner to a teammate in a position to attack the space Perreira's created. A trait very difficult to coach but Perreira does it effortlessly.
I love his composure on the ball and how unnerved he is in possession. Demands the ball in (what would be to lesser players) vulnerable positions, controls it nonchalantly, drops a shoulder or two to make the yard for the pass, and flicks it around the corner to a teammate in a position to attack the space Perreira's created. A trait very difficult to coach but Perreira does it effortlessly.
Add Valencia to that. That's 3 player he got to get through to start. IMO with the next 2 years or sooner I want him to be back up to Herrera.
The sooner some players leave the clearer thing will be regarding him. I want him to have a career at UTD.
I agree with everything you've said there about Pereira... but I also think most of it applies to Fabregas! His best football has always come in that deeper role, which he played in his best years for Arsenal and now for Chelsea. Barca asked him to either stand in for Messi during injury or play alongside him in the old Iniesta position, and he never quite made it work. Admittedly Pereira is slightly less of a passer and more of a dribbler than Fabregas, but in terms of where in the pitch he is best deployed, I think they're very very similar.
Herrera also plays a similar position, but I don't think they're that similar in style. Pereira has a tackle in his locker but he's not a scrapper like Herrera. He won't run nonstop all game and get through a huge amount of work, which Herrera does. A player like Herrera wins the ball or picks up a loose ball, takes it past the opposition's creative midfielder, and then moves it on to a Pereira/Fabregas who will start the actual attacking move with a diagonal ball or a pass to the feet of the striker or something like that.
(It's worth pointing out that we're now debating a very fine distinction. We're basically on the same page, I think.)
I was just about to post the article. He's got fantastic attitude and all the tools to make it here. I hope we make an announcement soon regarding his contract.
The voiceover guy keeps ending every sentence like he's not sure what he's just said.
Really like the attitude by him. Seems like he'll stay.
I think we could actually use a player in his mold, none of our CM's have a great range of passing and he would add that to us, I mean he's maybe too young to be dictating games and I think he's got some similarities with Herrera, but I'd be interested to see how he did as a deep lying playemaker next to Blind in a 4-2-3-1.
I really hope we sort his contract out ASAP, he's by far the brightest CM prospect we have. I do worry that apparently God may be involved in the deal though, he's not been a great agent for us in the past.
He would certainly did good but needs someone more defensive, some strong presence, say Carvalho. Blind is also sort of playmaker with rather shorter passing range and some above average defensive skills. I really can't wait for the day Andreas will start in league game. He is awesome and the only thing he lacks is experience right now and the experience comes with games. Of course its safer to put in Valencia but I would experiment from time to time, anyway its a good sign when he is at least on the bench here and there. It really can be some new class of if we think about it. Januzaj, Pereira and Wilson who is already getting some game time, young defenders already made their debut too but I am not sure whether they(Blackett, McNair) are on the same level in terms of potential with those three attacking minded players mentioned above. Pearson is also mentioned a lot but curiously he looks nowhere near to first team for van Gaal even he looks like player who could easily be better than Blind and quite soon to be at least his back-up. Then there is Harrop and Rothwell.. but its getting to be long comment I will stop here. I believe youngsters have a chance but needs to take every chance given some of the "less" talented. Pereira belongs to the most talented young players in our academy and he took his chance brilliantly against dons so I hope he will soon get another chance to prove himself..
Wait...what?
I wouldnt be surprised to see Pereira make his league debut tomorrow
Hope he gets some minutes, we have won just one match comfortably, we havent really got the chance to give him some minutes. Hope it'll happen tomorrow.
When I saw the thread bump I hoped he'd signed a new contract.
A start or from the bench???
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