Andreas Pereira | 2014/15 Performances

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I think it's more a case that the English lads are favoured. I know Ravel is English but he was a loose cannon. The other three players you mentioned have more talent in their left testicle than the likes of Welbeck, Cleverley and Evans yet because they aren't from Britain or Ireland they struggle to be given opportunities. No way would Welbeck, Cleverley or Evans have lasted as long as they did if they were from mainland Europe or South America.

That simply isn't true. Pique came through at the same time as Evans (and Shawcross) and was given plenty of opportunities (until that one mistake against Bolton IIRC). Due to having a world class and injury free Rio and Vidic at the time, there was always limited chances, and Pique didn't sign a new contract and the club chose to sell him back to Barcelona for a small fee. Evans was more patient; even though he didn't reach the intended levels, he was still a very talented youngster and looked more suited to the Premier League than pique at the time.

Rossi and Welbdck broke through at much different stages. Rossi after signing Tevez, as he already had Rooney, Saha and Solskjaer ahead of him. Of course Saha was injured forever and Ole received an injury that led to retirement; so had Rossi stayed, he would have had many chances. Welbeck didn't come through till much later.

Pogba is another story. :(
 
You obviously haven't watched Pereira enough if you think that's the case
No, just compilations and stuff. From what I've seen he can create way more havoc if he can get his trickery into play. Wasted may be over the top, yeah.
 
No, just compilations and stuff. From what I've seen he can create way more havoc if he can get his trickery into play. Wasted may be over the top, yeah.
He's more effective deeper, when he plays as a 10 he tends to get crowded out a bit too much because he's lacking a yard of pace but when he plays deeper he makes himself a bit of space then plays the pass or can drive with the ball. His long passing and ability to open up the game are also two of the better parts of his game and he doesn't really get to use them playing further forward.
 
Shame he wasn't even on the bench today.

Seeming more likely that he might leave in the summer. :( (And then everyone will moan in hindsight at LVG not using him.)
 
Psg in for him... Was a matter of time I guess. Weird he hasn't gotten any playing time.
 
Shame he wasn't even on the bench today.

Seeming more likely that he might leave in the summer. :( (And then everyone will moan in hindsight at LVG not using him.)

TBH what makes it worse is that this lad come on against MK Dons and played quite well, and hasn't had a sniff since, (even though we have had various injuries in midfield)
Anyway I guess you can't really complain, since a more senior player like Herrera is struggling for gametime.
 
Shame he wasn't even on the bench today.

Seeming more likely that he might leave in the summer. :( (And then everyone will moan in hindsight at LVG not using him.)

He won't leave.People are way too pessimistic these days.He's a very determined lad.

With Fletcher going he will have less competitors in the second half of this campaign (yeah I don't think we will sign anyone this Jan).
 
He'll be gone at the end of season, cannot see it any other way.
 
He'll probably see Pogba and think to himself perhaps this isnt the club to take your first steps in. Why havent we even found him a loan ffs.
 
Psg in for him... Was a matter of time I guess. Weird he hasn't gotten any playing time.

They have Cabaye and Rabiot not getting any games, hows he going to be more than 7th choice CM at a club like that? He's no better off than here so its probably a nonsense rumour
 
He'll get a game in the replay I think, It would seem silly to start the kids in a hostile away atmosphere. We would have one eye on the Liverpool U-21 game tonight for him and I reckon He, Wilson and Januzaj will all start the replay.
 
I remember him saying in an interview at the start of the season something about he could be playing first-team football in another club/league but he wanted to make it here. Whether he'll stay or not I don't know but I doubt he'll go to PSG.
 
They have Cabaye and Rabiot not getting any games, hows he going to be more than 7th choice CM at a club like that? He's no better off than here so its probably a nonsense rumour
What was pogbas competition at huge before they signed him? Pirlo, Vidal, marchisio and a couple of others probably? While we had scholes out of retirement, Carrick, an ill fletcher, anderson and cleverley... Competition isn't the problem. Problem is the willingness to give players a chance and for some reason we're wasting another very promising central midfielder.
 
What was pogbas competition at huge before they signed him? Pirlo, Vidal, marchisio and a couple of others probably? While we had scholes out of retirement, Carrick, an ill fletcher, anderson and cleverley... Competition isn't the problem. Problem is the willingness to give players a chance and for some reason we're wasting another very promising central midfielder.

He isnt Pogba

This is something people need to realise already.

Juventus had more competition for places than we had, but PSG have : Cabaye, Motta, Veratti, Pastore, Matuidi, and Rabiot already. He wouldnt have a chance. And Rabiot is another highly rated young player linked with top clubs, he's not getting his chance. Why would Pereira?
 
What was pogbas competition at huge before they signed him? Pirlo, Vidal, marchisio and a couple of others probably? While we had scholes out of retirement, Carrick, an ill fletcher, anderson and cleverley... Competition isn't the problem. Problem is the willingness to give players a chance and for some reason we're wasting another very promising central midfielder.
PSG aren't any more likely to give him that chance though. Rabiot is pretty highly rated too and rarely plays, it would probably be similar for Pereira if he was to go there.
 
I don't get the point of "wasting him".He isn't ready to play for us yet and even Herrera didn't get much game times recently.He's not Pogba level of talent and seems be more patient than his French senior.As I said Fletcher will go so that's one less competitor for him.
 
Inevitable comparisons to Pogba will follow, but there's a sizeable difference in the talent of the two.
 
Didn't progress as well as I hoped, but he is still very young there is still time for him to develop into a top player. He will probably leave at the end of the season somewhere he can get games.
 
Why so sure?

He said he wanted to stay just a few months ago. Also, there's no real reason for him to leave. He's progressing as a player and he's taken another step towards the first-team this season, which is all the club can ask of him and vice versa. There could be any number of reasons why his agent (Pereira says he doesn't want to get personally involved) rejected United's first contract offer, if indeed he did. That Balague fella seems to be the only one reporting it so a pinch of salt or two could well be in order.
 
He said he wanted to stay just a few months ago. Also, there's no real reason for him to leave. He's progressing as a player and he's taken another step towards the first-team this season, which is all the club can ask of him and vice versa. There could be any number of reasons why his agent (Pereira says he doesn't want to get personally involved) rejected United's first contract offer, if, indeed, he did. That Balague fella seems to be the only one reporting it so a pinch of salt or two could well be in order.
The fact is, he still didn't renew the contract and if we really would rate him very highly, surely we wouldn't wait this long to do serious business. So I can't be sure.
 
The fact is, he still didn't renew the contract and if we really would rate him very highly, surely we wouldn't wait this long to do serious business. So I can't be sure.

I'm quite certain it's not unusual for us to wait until the new year to renew the contracts of 18/19-year-olds (perhaps @khoazany or @jb8521 could back me up here..?). I doubt the fact that it hasn't happened yet is a reflection of how highly rated he is within the club. But, like you, I can't be sure of anything. For now, though, I'd be amazed if he wasn't at United next season.
 
I'm quite certain it's not unusual for us to wait until the new year to renew the contracts of 18/19-year-olds (perhaps @khoazany or @jb8521 could back me up here..?). I doubt the fact that it hasn't happened yet is a reflection of how highly rated he is within the club. But, like you, I can't be sure of anything. For now, though, I'd be amazed if he wasn't at United next season.
I dont agree with it personally but no its not unusual at all in fact its very rare for us to renew earlier when it comes to young players. From what I've heard he and his father are very happy with how he has been treated this year and the way he has been integrated into the squad not just in terms of playing and training but also the fact that he has been included on all of the clubs get togethers and nights out. Van Gaal clearly rates him and has spoken to him about his development. He says all the right things in interviews and seems determined to make it here. I think people are getting overly excited about him rejecting the clubs first offer as its extremely rare for a player to accept the initial offer thats why they're called contract negotiations after all. Id be surprised if he doesnt sign a new contract.
 
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The fact is, he still didn't renew the contract and if we really would rate him very highly, surely we wouldn't wait this long to do serious business. So I can't be sure.
By that logic the only young player we have rated in recent years is Januzaj. Rightly or wrongly we very rarely renew young players contracts any earlier than this
 
By that logic the only young player we have rated in recent years is Januzaj. Rightly or wrongly we very rarely renew young players contracts any earlier than this
Well, yeah. Can't think of anyone else who's been on the level of Januzaj in recent years potential-wise(apart from maybe Wilson), but Pereira seems the next best thing. And when there are rumours floating around that PSG are interested, why wait?
 
Well, yeah. Can't think of anyone else who's been on the level of Januzaj in recent years potential-wise(apart from maybe Wilson), but Pereira seems the next best thing. And when there are rumours floating around that PSG are interested, why wait?
Wilson hasnt signed a new contract yet either so going by your logic above does that mean we dont rate him either? I dont know the reasoning behind us waiting nor do I agree with it but thats the way its done at the club. If the player wants to stay at the club he will sign a new contract why should a paper writing about PSG being interested change how we do business?
 
He said he wanted to stay just a few months ago. Also, there's no real reason for him to leave. He's progressing as a player and he's taken another step towards the first-team this season, which is all the club can ask of him and vice versa. There could be any number of reasons why his agent (Pereira says he doesn't want to get personally involved) rejected United's first contract offer, if indeed he did. That Balague fella seems to be the only one reporting it so a pinch of salt or two could well be in order.

Darren Fletcher and Anderson getting ahead of him in the pecking order is reason enough for him to leave.
 
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