Andreas Pereira | 2014/15 Performances

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Pereira is a funny case.The more he's not playing, the more he's getting overrated by the caf.

People who's complaining about his contract clearly don't understand how this club works.We don't make decision about extending a youngster's contract at this point yet unless he's getting games in the first team which Pereira hasn't (does not mean we're going to keep him).It has been the same for every youngster every year yet I saw people complain every time.
 
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I'm saying this is definitely true. Balague has gone to the lengths to actually @ him. Plus, they both follow each other on twitter.
 
I want him to sign a new contract but I can't say I'll be gutted if he does leave. Hopefully he signs but if he doesn't, oh well..
 
It'll be interesting to see if he features against Cambridge if they're in the middle of contract talks.
 
Sammyjunn said:
How consistent was Pogba in the academy?
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From what I remember he was consistently very good when it suited him, him and Morrison were both brilliant the year we won the FA Youth Cup against Sheffield United. It was his attitude that was the problem, he was clearly too good for the level he was playing and reacted to that by not putting in the effort.
 
I hope this gets sorted. He's a fantastic talent, very technically gifted, and it shows by the fact he's always been playing above his age group. He looked really talented against MK Dons too.
 
Sweet Square said:
More consistent than Pereira(From what I remember). Although Pogba in his last season didn't look arsed most of the time.(Was also getting at performed by David Petrucci :()
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Could be, but not how to measure how big of a talent imo, I have the same feeling with Pereira as I had with Pogba, Pogba was a bigger talent, but they both showed that they had the ability of a class above, but neither have shown the consistency of a lets say Pearson/Rothwell for a while, who are quite comfortably less talented imo. Sometims youngsters fail to get the consistency at such a level, I've noticed, with the type of player Pereira is and his position now, it doesnt even surprise me. But tbf, no matyer how talented you are, he has to show it. But its a shame that he's never been giving a chance and players like McNair and Blackett have, if you told me this 2 years ago, I'd call you crazy.
 
Such a joke he hasn't been given chances especially considering a washed up Fletcher has been getting plenty more game time than him. Could be Pogba 2.0 if LVG doesn't get his act together and open his eyes.
 
After we lost Ravel and Pogba I stopped to be excited for youngsters to come through in our first team.

Too many players that I have been excited about have left the club! :(

It seems that most of the promising one doesn't get enough chance. It was the case with Ravel, Pogba, Rossi and Pique.
 
Hopefully he ends up signing, he's the only CM from the current youth team I can see making it here.
 
Asger said:
After we lost Ravel and Pogba I stopped to be excited for youngsters to come through in our first team.

Too many players that I have been excited about have left the club! :(

It seems that most of the promising one doesn't get enough chance. It was the case with Ravel, Pogba, Rossi and Pique.
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I think it's more a case that the English lads are favoured. I know Ravel is English but he was a loose cannon. The other three players you mentioned have more talent in their left testicle than the likes of Welbeck, Cleverley and Evans yet because they aren't from Britain or Ireland they struggle to be given opportunities. No way would Welbeck, Cleverley or Evans have lasted as long as they did if they were from mainland Europe or South America.
 
I can understand 99% of the matches LvG didn't bring on Pereira, even against Yeovil.

But what i couldn't understand was the match when we were 3-0 up in lead with 15 min to go and him bringing on Fletcher. That was just utter retarded.
 
If he doesn't want to sign the contract then he can piss off elsewhere. We've money to burn and the only way for the vast majority of young players at the club is down. This particular situation is very different to the Pogba farce.
 
Redo91 said:
I think it's more a case that the English lads are favoured. I know Ravel is English but he was a loose cannon. The other three players you mentioned have more talent in their left testicle than the likes of Welbeck, Cleverley and Evans yet because they aren't from Britain or Ireland they struggle to be given opportunities. No way would Welbeck, Cleverley or Evans have lasted as long as they did if they were from mainland Europe or South America.
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Rubbish.

And Anderson say Hi
 
Redo91 said:
I think it's more a case that the English lads are favoured. I know Ravel is English but he was a loose cannon. The other three players you mentioned have more talent in their left testicle than the likes of Welbeck, Cleverley and Evans yet because they aren't from Britain or Ireland they struggle to be given opportunities. No way would Welbeck, Cleverley or Evans have lasted as long as they did if they were from mainland Europe or South America.
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That's utter nonsense. You need to look at each case individually, and players like Rafael, Fabio and Januzaj clearly prove it wrong. The last sentence has some semblance of truth, but mainly because since they are more local then they tend to be happier as squad players then some of the overseas youngsters.
 
Redo91 said:
I think it's more a case that the English lads are favoured. I know Ravel is English but he was a loose cannon. The other three players you mentioned have more talent in their left testicle than the likes of Welbeck, Cleverley and Evans yet because they aren't from Britain or Ireland they struggle to be given opportunities. No way would Welbeck, Cleverley or Evans have lasted as long as they did if they were from mainland Europe or South America.
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It's more a case of English players or those who have been at the club for waiting for their turn longer.

And what @datura said.
 
This is called contract negotiation folks.It's obvious that his side would want more benefits now they have the pulling power.We should have start the contract negotiation earlier.Either case, no big deal.

Redo91 said:
I think it's more a case that the English lads are favoured. I know Ravel is English but he was a loose cannon. The other three players you mentioned have more talent in their left testicle than the likes of Welbeck, Cleverley and Evans yet because they aren't from Britain or Ireland they struggle to be given opportunities. No way would Welbeck, Cleverley or Evans have lasted as long as they did if they were from mainland Europe or South America.
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Sorry but Pereira didn't show half of the things Welbeck had shown at the same age.He might make it but he's one of the most overrated youngsters in the caf.
 
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khoazany said:
This is called contract negotiation folks.It's obvious that his side would want more benefits now they have the pulling power.We should have start the contract negotiation earlier.Either case, no big deal.



Sorry but Pereira didn't show half of the things Welbeck had shown at the same age.He might make it but he's one of the most overrated youngsters in the caf.
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Pereira suffered from playing behind the striker. He's clearly much better playing deeper than right behind the striker. It's no coincidence that he started to perform much better this season compared to last where apart from his goals was useless in a lot of games. I do agree that he's overhyped right now though.
 
datura said:
That's utter nonsense. You need to look at each case individually, and players like Rafael, Fabio and Januzaj clearly prove it wrong. The last sentence has some semblance of truth, but mainly because since they are more local then they tend to be happier as squad players then some of the overseas youngsters.
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Fabio barely played for us after 2012 (when he was only 22). I agree with the decision to let him go but you can hardly say he was given plenty of chances. Rafael and Januzaj are clearly talented players which is why they have broken into the first team. My original point was that the likes of Pogba, Rossi and Pique were and are far more talented than the likes of Welbeck, Cleverley and Evans yet they weren't given the same chances the latter trio were.

FromTheBench said:
It's more a case of English players or those who have been at the club for waiting for their turn longer.
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I do appreciate that is a factor.

khoazany said:
Sorry but Pereira didn't show half of the things Welbeck had shown at the same age.He might make it but he's one of the most overrated youngsters in the caf.
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I wasn't saying Pereira is as talented as Welbeck at the same age (although he may well turn out to be a better player) I was just saying that the likes of Pogba was more talented yet wasn't given the same opportunities.
 
Redo91 said:
I wasn't saying Pereira is as talented as Welbeck at the same age (although he may well turn out to be a better player) I was just saying that the likes of Pogba was more talented yet wasn't given the same opportunities.
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Welbeck,Cleverley and Evans all had to go through various successful loan moves to make the first team at 21-22.Pogba was pretty much part of it age 18.He wasn't patient enough, nothing to do with lack of opportunities.

Pereira should be happy that he's ahead of Pearson,Rothwell and Harrop despite showing less than them at U21s level.He might be more talented than some of them but not that much like people claimed it to be really with less consistency.
 
From what I've seen of Pereira I think we would see more consistency from him as a CM (B2B) at #10 or out wide he has been inconsistent no doubt about that but as a Attacking CM like Anderson or Herrera I think could release his true potential. I can understand why he hasn't been getting game time because of our managers stubbornness to play 352 (extra defender, 1 less midfielder) in a 442 diamond he also plays well as he did against MK Dons and in the reserves but since we reverted back to 352 where he's been playing as a #10 he's not been at his best but still very talented to say the least. The potential is all there, just needs to be unlocked and it all depends on the formation we play.
 
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