If the offer is true then this will get done. No way they feck this up for a few million.
I’m actually super excited about getting a new keeper.
I’m actually super excited about getting a new keeper.
André Onana | signed for United | On a flight to NYC
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I thought Di Marzio announcing a bid would be bigger news
Every day for the past week we’ve been bidding. The Italian press has drawn the fun out of it
Di Marzipan better be right!
Hope it's true. Skeptical mostly out of fear we don't replace de Gea
That would be a promising opening bid, especially if Inter are cash strapped. Getting this one over the line is probably even more important to us than a striker. I don't feel hugely convinced by Bijlow and it would be a disaster if we went crawling back to De Gea.
I think it could go hugely wrong signing this guy whereas Mr Blobby would be an upgrade on Weghorst. That’s why a striker is more important.
Onana could completely transform our ability to control games to be fair. Last season we weren't great for chances created in the first place.
Definitely need a CF but a ball playing GK is also a game changer.
Folks it’s simple as of last season where we all complained about controlling the game from the back and how De Gea couldn’t play that way. Yes an excellent shot stopper but nowadays you have to play with your feet. This signing will definitely change the way we play going forward, get this done asap Murtough please!
We should have a bit more wiggle room in accepting a lower fee from the pure profit they'll make off the transfer. Won't have many assets like that.
Playing with a man down, he really makes up for the deficit.
Joel has asked the board to look at other options than using a recognised goalkeeper. He’s asked if we could use Weghorst.
yet noone can state a proper striker we can bring in, because the striker market is fecked, Kane is not going to be sold to us, Osimehn is going to be a ludicrous price, and then there is literally nobody of any quality. All we ever hear is "I am not a scout we pay people for that", yet hundreds of people across multiple channels will tell you there are not those kind of players around. Thats why every top team is looking for one, bar city, napoli and PSG. Anyone else you might consider is a massive drop off in level, and are priced at ridiculous prices. Hojlund, Muani, et al. If you even try and grab a David now i bet you are edging 75m
Surely if we've bid we will see a confirmation from Fab or Ornstein
I don't see those same risks with Onana personally. There will be times where his sweeping tendencies might backfire - just as they have for Alisson, Ederson and Neuer in the past, but I think the benefits hugely outweigh the negatives. A goalkeeper who is comfortable to leave his line and make line breaking passes will revolutionise the way we play.
The reality is that we need both, so I won't argue the merits of it too strongly, but I'd maintain that we've got a better chance of getting by with one of Rashford or Martial up front than we do with De Gea in goal. I'd like to see us get Onana and Hojlund though, and I'm hopeful we will eventually do it.
Yeah that's the best we can hope get sorted for tour,pretty certain the search for striker will drag on throughout it unfortunately
So you are saying that we dont need to spend money on Amrabat --- now that Onana will be playing two positions when the inevitable (Casemiro sending off) happens? Murtough's a genius.
Why do all sources except sky sports and bbc always say we’ve put in bids first. Makes it unbelievable
Not sure if this has been posted before but worth a watch. The finals thoughts by the uploader are interesting:
Something about the way he saves the ball, makes me nervous. I don't think he's a very good "keeper".
Looks calm and composed on the ball and a good passer but I don't see stand out saves or reflexes, handling looks clumsy and weak.
I'd say if ETH wants him, fine but get prepared for him not making the big saves we are used to seeing from DDG that win us games.
Looks calm and composed on the ball and a good passer but I don't see stand out saves or reflexes, handling looks clumsy and weak.
I'd say if ETH wants him, fine but get prepared for him not making the big saves we are used to seeing from DDG that win us games.
Then again we will not face as many shots as before.
Yeah agree with this. Onana will totally transform our set up and tactics in games, so needs to be worked on quickly.
Keep the bids coming.
But as long as we dominate posession and play pretty football, who cares if he cant make saves like de gea.
So we lose some game, but our posession stats will be so good. Goalies who can pull off worldie saves are overrated.
Dont you know De Gea is the worst keeper in PL? Only won golden gloves because of defence infront of him. If he wasnt playing we would have conceeded even less.
He should retire as he's past it. Dinosaur from a different era where making crucial saves mattered.
Its all about posession and high lines now.
Ps. Onana will get caught out on numerous occasions due to the speed, pressing and physicality of PL. Doesnt mean im not excited to see him. Just disappointed in the judus fanbase on here who cant acknowledge a club legend and the service he has provided. The abuse towards him on here in general has been over the top.
His time maybe up at the club due to the football philopshy ETH wants to implement, but hes still a top keeper who could do a job for any top side who arent so concerned about their keeper playing out from the back.
If we've actually made a bid wouldn't we be hearing it from more people by now?
Without a doubt but we'll just need to see how it balances out. It'll be interesting that's for sure. Replacing a GK is always a gamble for any club.
It's going to be annoying/amusing to see those who claimed every goal we conceded was De Gea's fault suddenly defend this lad for every mistake. If I know the caf it's absolutely what will happen.
Its about starting your attacks from the keeper and not having a keeper glued to his line thus inviting pressure from the opposition.
All the top sides are in fact concerned about their keeper's ability to play from the back so De Gea absolutely couldn't do a job for any of the top sides, hell even midtable sides now want a keeper who can contribute to a general play.
He was a great servant, some would say legend, but he's not a top keeper anymore, hasnt been for a few years now.
This may well be the case that everyone needs to get their ducks in a row and Inter are finalising their Onana replacement - it’s not beneficial for them to say it’s done as they then get stung in their negotiations.
There have been enough noises on both sides to hopefully assume that this is now well progressed and their is agreement both ends.
And until Mount is officially announced and paraded our transfer team cannot do simultaneous deals……one at a time……steady as she goes!
There have been enough noises on both sides to hopefully assume that this is now well progressed and their is agreement both ends.
And until Mount is officially announced and paraded our transfer team cannot do simultaneous deals……one at a time……steady as she goes!
His shot stopping used to be so good it made up for the rest of him game like playing out from the back and claiming crosses but we can't even rely on his shot stopping anymore, I can acknowledge his service but its time to stop being sentimental he's not good enough anymore.
This is surely a joke?
People like to shit on the club at any opportunity
There's not a team in the top 10 in England who would take him. No 'top' team in any of the other leagues would either, and I doubt there's any in the top half of the Spanish league and perhaps not even the Italian league who would. Ignore how good he once was and focus purely on what he has actually done these last five years and he's nothing but an above average shot-stopper who is poor to downright terrible at the every other attribute that a goalkeeper needs. Not just the 'modern' stuff of distribution and sweeping (things that have always been needed to some extent - I remember Bosnich getting a lot of criticism for his distribution almost 25 years ago), but also things that have always been important like claiming crosses and controlling his box. He also has a tendency to make quite a lot of mistakes in the higher pressure games.
A significant amount of the 'abuse' that De Gea gets is purely push-back for people (like yourself) who still make out that he's a top keeper. He was once upon a time, but saying he's still a top keeper is like saying that Rooney was still a top striker in his last couple of years here, or that Schweinsteiger and Sanchez were still top midfielder/attacker after they joined us. It's pure sentimentality blinding people to his limitations. If a different keeper had come in for the 18/19 season and had given us the exact same performances for these last five years most of the people who defend De Gea would be criticising the new guy mercilessly (often with the 'De Gea would have saved that' criticism).
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There will be some of that, no doubt. But what I expect to see more of is the people who make out that De Gea is still an amazing shot-stopper and defend him when he concedes goals that he really should be stopping suddenly being very critical of any similar goals that the new guy lets in. 'De Gea would have saved that' is something that I expect to see a huge amount in the next couple of years, completely ignoring that he hasn't been making those saves himself for half a decade now.
Most people who want him replaced recognise that the new guy will make mistakes as well, but the key is that the benefits that they bring in every other aspect should comfortably outweigh those mistakes. The key word there of course is 'should', but there is good reason to be confident that they will be a net positive on the current situation.
Basically the main reason I don't want De Gea as a backup next season. Imagine that happening while he is on the bench, it will bring a lot of unwanted attention.
Unless Fabrizio or Ornstein confirm the bid I don't think its actually happened
Agreed
Who are these topclubs not playing from the back and why aren’t they lining up to sign him? He’s available, after all.
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