André Onana | signed for United | On a flight to NYC

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cyberman said:
The media have been all over the place with ffp. If true, Surely we can buy him and sell to cover ffp further down the window?
Utter, utter nonsense that won’t be acknowledged when we do sign him next week
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What if we then find that we’re unable to sell players and end up breaking FFP and are banned from football?
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
What if we then find that we’re unable to sell players and end up breaking FFP and are banned from football?
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When has this actually ever happened even when big clubs like Barca, Inter, Juventus, PSG and City were found in breach of FFP?
 
Rolaholic said:
When has this actually ever happened even when big clubs like Barca, Inter, Juventus, PSG and City were found in breach of FFP?
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Would we get away with it? I bet ya not.

Look at the relative silence from the press regarding 115 Charges FC. It is sickening. It is a major scandal.

It sure would be if it was us. Why is that?
 
crossy1686 said:
Did you see the quarterly financials? We definitely can afford him, and more for that matter.
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Copied from the report; “As of 31 March 2023, cash and cash equivalents were £73.7 million compared to £95.8 million at the prior year quarter, primarily due to investment in the first team playing squad.”
How much more would you say we can really afford?
I’m doubting that FFP will actually prevent us from doing ‘reasonable’ transfers this summer, it’s more a question of how much room we’ll have in terms of cash-position.
 
userman said:
Copied from the report; “As of 31 March 2023, cash and cash equivalents were £73.7 million compared to £95.8 million at the prior year quarter, primarily due to investment in the first team playing squad.”
How much more would you say we can really afford?
I’m doubting that FFP will actually prevent us from doing ‘reasonable’ transfers this summer, it’s more a question of how much room we’ll have in terms of cash-position.
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Well taking this logic, cash and cash equivalents decreased by net £22million in one year after large investment. Which means that we could still spend at the same levels as last summer and maintain over £50million in cash.

The balance sheet improved overall based on increased turnover resulting in higher EBITDA.

So yes we can 'really afford' to continue spending as we have been.
 
Vault Dweller said:
Starting to think we genuinely don't have any money. Plus we are struggling to shift players who could actually bring cash in.
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We have a lot of money, but the Glazers won't spend a penny more than the "minimum" required. Just a case sucking dry the last drop of juice before selling the fruit.
 
FortBoyard said:
Well taking this logic, cash and cash equivalents decreased by net £22million in one year after large investment. Which means that we could still spend at the same levels as last summer and maintain over £50million in cash.

The balance sheet improved overall based on increased turnover resulting in higher EBITDA.

So yes we can 'really afford' to continue spending as we have been.
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It’s all just silly transfer spin. There’s people at the club sitting back enjoying all these stories.

We’ll have the normal amount of money spend as we do every year. I’m sure these year however there aim is to stink within to budget assigned to each position.

We definitely won’t be spending a fixed fee of €50m for a keeper. I’m guessing £30-35m has been assigned for a new keeper and they will stick to it.
 
Mainoldo said:
It’s all just silly transfer spin. There’s people at the club sitting back enjoying all these stories.

We’ll have the normal amount of money spend as we do every year. I’m sure these year however there aim is to stink within to budget assigned to each position.

We definitely won’t be spending a fixed fee of €50m for a keeper. I’m guessing £30-35m has been assigned for a new keeper and they will stick to it.
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I have a theory that some journos played off the doom and gloom for clicks a while ago thinking a takeover would cover for their reports of low numbers. Sadly for them they forgot how incompetent the Glazers are so have been forced to massage those numbers to the point it doesn’t make sense anymore.
If we sell Henderson, as an example, for 25m that means we can afford Onana and an understudy from that sale alone.
I understand the ffp concern, what I don’t understand is the reporting of ffp as if it’s a constant handcuff that only allows you to buy when you sell as if we’re living week to week. FFP only comes into play when the window closes. The journos are cheating the story by subtlety angling it as if we are cash strapped instead of having the money but not being able to spend it.
 
If we want someone who can play with their feet at goal, let’s get Mata back and stick him in the net. It’ll be adorable.
 
cyberman said:
I have a theory that some journos played off the doom and gloom for clicks a while ago thinking a takeover would cover for their reports of low numbers. Sadly for them they forgot how incompetent the Glazers are so have been forced to massage those numbers to the point it doesn’t make sense anymore.
If we sell Henderson, as an example, for 25m that means we can afford Onana and an understudy from that sale alone.
I understand the ffp concern, what I don’t understand is the reporting of ffp as if it’s a constant handcuff that only allows you to buy when you sell as if we’re living week to week. FFP only comes into play when the window closes. The journos are cheating the story by subtlety angling it as if we are cash strapped instead of having the money but not being able to spend it.
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Eitherway anyone who can be bothered to look into it. Knows it’s just a Rubbish story. Like you said a Henderson sale covers any new keeper brought. But why sell him before you buy a new number 1 when you can run stupid stories that we need to know if DDG will stay as it impacts our budget.

I feel we will sign Onana and immediately we will run the narrative we now don’t have enough money for a striker without more sales.
 
cyberman said:
I have a theory that some journos played off the doom and gloom for clicks a while ago thinking a takeover would cover for their reports of low numbers. Sadly for them they forgot how incompetent the Glazers are so have been forced to massage those numbers to the point it doesn’t make sense anymore.
If we sell Henderson, as an example, for 25m that means we can afford Onana and an understudy from that sale alone.
I understand the ffp concern, what I don’t understand is the reporting of ffp as if it’s a constant handcuff that only allows you to buy when you sell as if we’re living week to week. FFP only comes into play when the window closes. The journos are cheating the story by subtlety angling it as if we are cash strapped instead of having the money but not being able to spend it.
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And honestly, they can hide behind journalist integrity all they want when called out by managers and the likes, but in the end football journalists mostly fall into gossip tabloids, rather than news coverage or analysis type journalists. Even the latter two you can challenge their objectivity easily, but even the good sports journalists' articles can often be boiled down to he said-she said and it's good if 20% of it is substantial.

But I guess that's also what you get when you need to sell your stuff daily and trigger people's dopamine transmitters into loyalty. But hot dang I would not like myself at all in that kind of job.

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speaking of which, when will Onana sign already???
 
cyberman said:
I have a theory that some journos played off the doom and gloom for clicks a while ago thinking a takeover would cover for their reports of low numbers. Sadly for them they forgot how incompetent the Glazers are so have been forced to massage those numbers to the point it doesn’t make sense anymore.
If we sell Henderson, as an example, for 25m that means we can afford Onana and an understudy from that sale alone.
I understand the ffp concern, what I don’t understand is the reporting of ffp as if it’s a constant handcuff that only allows you to buy when you sell as if we’re living week to week. FFP only comes into play when the window closes. The journos are cheating the story by subtlety angling it as if we are cash strapped instead of having the money but not being able to spend it.
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I think it's also stuff that's being fed to them. From what I can see, we could probably get most of what we want from an FFP perspective with sales as well in this window but without the credit line that the club has, I don't think we have enough cash to pay upfront for our transfers (would love to know what the payment terms on the mount transfer is and would t be surprised if they are very favorable since it would still solve Chelsea's FFP woes) and I do not see how Glazers would let us use any of that credit line without clarity on the takeover. So I wouldn't be surprised if FFP is what they're being fed as the reason for our lack of investment in the market and being the lazy lot they are, they're not really probing further into that narrative
 
He is a steal at that price.

5 years ago the keepers at the top end of the market were going for around £70m.
 
ShinjiNinja26 said:
Pathetic what the Glazers have reduced us to if true.
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Whilst true, it's on the manager and technical directors as well. The lack of selling and planning with De Gea has put us in the position where we're basically in a massive chain of events in order to upgrade our GK with an elite option.
 
I think Onana will be done if its true that Inter really need to sell. They might panic and accept 50m eur than risk losing a big fee for them and see us go for a second choice.

It could be another mount - caceido play :lol:
 


The future of André Onana among the topics on the agenda at Inter's house. The negotiation between the agents of the Cameroonian goalkeeper and Manchester United is proceeding quickly, so much so that the Nerazzurri are waiting soon (perhaps already in the next few hours) for the first official offer from the Red Devils. A proposal that Inter at this point hopes will be in line with the valuation of 50 million euros plus bonus that makes of its goalkeeper: in case of sale at these figures, the Nerazzurri would score a very significant capital gain, since Onana arrived only a year ago at zero parameter after the end of the contract with Ajax.
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ETH won’t accept 2nd choice targets. We’ll play the media by saying we can’t afford and then the price gets dropped. Inter want the money and the deal to happen, if we pretend we’re going after other keepers they’ll reduce the price. Smart tactic.
 
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