But doesn't rely on a keeper making saves?
Much like a top goalscorer award doesn't rely on teammates making goalscoring opportunities yeah?
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Much like a top goalscorer award doesn't rely on teammates making goalscoring opportunities yeah?
Cue the panic when he comes out of retirement and Cameroon make the final
Imagine the panic at HQ when he comes out for the final.He tried to sign a GK in his first summer at the club so I would say that's a yes.
I think with Onana, most of the ball will be played in the opposition's half. So like in LVG's philosophy, the opponents cant score if their dont have the ball.
Having him and Martinez building things from back, passing between lines will help immeasurably. Invites less pressure on defence and great for counterattacks. Interesting thing about the CL final though was Inter's defenders taking up good positions to move around for him to pass to which helped counter City's pressing. Which our backline will need to do to utilise his distribution skills better.
Now that this one seems to be dead in the water, who will be our alternative?
Gianluca Di Marzio reported United’s first official bid for Onana will be lodged tonight. However, according to ESPN, United may struggle to finance the move.
Their senior writer, Mark Ogden, claimed that a bid ‘even at £40m’ would ‘drain resources’ and leave United perilously short when it comes to signing a striker.
Inter are understood to want ‘at least €50m/€55m” for Onana, according to Fabrizio Romano. That equates to roughly £43m-£47m at current exchange rate.
If this is true, it is pathetic.
Their senior writer, Mark Ogden, claimed that a bid ‘even at £40m’ would ‘drain resources’ and leave United perilously short when it comes to signing a striker.
Inter are understood to want ‘at least €50m/€55m” for Onana, according to Fabrizio Romano. That equates to roughly £43m-£47m at current exchange rate.
If this is true, it is pathetic.
Make this signing and we are settled at GK for the duration of the contract and hopefully long beyond. It’s sets the precedent that we want to always play higher up the pitch from now on. It makes everyone’s lives easier from recruitment down. He’s the best GK we could realistically get. We couldn’t have sold DDG at any point without subsidising his crazy wages and all the drama that would go with it. Onana will surely be on less money. Already a better keeper and entering his prime years. I think we’ve played another blinder here if it comes off.
CB we have a great first choice pairing with Shaw able to play LCB if Martinez is out. Lindelof is fine for Varane. Some fresh blood is probably needed as Varane ages but not a major priority this summer.
RB Dalot and AWB are totally fine depending on who we are playing. Either could kick on majorly next season. Both were really good in spells last season.
LB Shaw is one of our most consistent players who just signed a new deal. Malacia looks alright and still has solid potential, low wages and we will surely sell him for a profit if it doesn’t work out.
CM Casemiro, Mount, Bruno is mobile creative hardworking experienced confident and aggressive. Mount is the most experienced young PL player we could get this summer. It’s the lowest possible risk. We also have first choice international players as backup ready to step in when needed. Fresh blood (more youth creativity and steel) is still needed but not a priority with the arrival of Mount and hopefully the emergence of Mainoo.
Wings really couldn't be any more healthy
Only striker left as a glaring weakness and it looks like we are finally signing one for the long term. Rejoice! Rashford can pop in at 9 and greenwood might possibly return at some stage.
a few top class youth punts to pad out the squad and take the reigns as the likes of Casemiro and Varane wind down and we are looking really really good.
Once we address the strikers long term It’s the best squad composition we will have had post Fergie by far. the manager has been doing all this with the glazers tying one hand behind his back, getting rid of Ronaldo, the greenwood situation and the ownership issue. He’s calm, has a clear vision and keeps the ego BS in house. He’s doing a super job.
Onana, Martinez, Casemiro (all captain material) and hopefully Antony will be star players for us next season. All his hires. There’s not much more we can do apart from improve the team every year and the manager and recruitment team are certainly doing that while keeping us competitive. We seem to finally be targeting winners too instead of flashy marketable nice guys. It will be a great squad for promising younger players to come in and learn the ropes. This group looks happy and hungry. If City weren’t such a machine I’d fancy us to go a lot closer next season but we are slowly getting there.
I’m delighted.
CB we have a great first choice pairing with Shaw able to play LCB if Martinez is out. Lindelof is fine for Varane. Some fresh blood is probably needed as Varane ages but not a major priority this summer.
RB Dalot and AWB are totally fine depending on who we are playing. Either could kick on majorly next season. Both were really good in spells last season.
LB Shaw is one of our most consistent players who just signed a new deal. Malacia looks alright and still has solid potential, low wages and we will surely sell him for a profit if it doesn’t work out.
CM Casemiro, Mount, Bruno is mobile creative hardworking experienced confident and aggressive. Mount is the most experienced young PL player we could get this summer. It’s the lowest possible risk. We also have first choice international players as backup ready to step in when needed. Fresh blood (more youth creativity and steel) is still needed but not a priority with the arrival of Mount and hopefully the emergence of Mainoo.
Wings really couldn't be any more healthy
Only striker left as a glaring weakness and it looks like we are finally signing one for the long term. Rejoice! Rashford can pop in at 9 and greenwood might possibly return at some stage.
a few top class youth punts to pad out the squad and take the reigns as the likes of Casemiro and Varane wind down and we are looking really really good.
Once we address the strikers long term It’s the best squad composition we will have had post Fergie by far. the manager has been doing all this with the glazers tying one hand behind his back, getting rid of Ronaldo, the greenwood situation and the ownership issue. He’s calm, has a clear vision and keeps the ego BS in house. He’s doing a super job.
Onana, Martinez, Casemiro (all captain material) and hopefully Antony will be star players for us next season. All his hires. There’s not much more we can do apart from improve the team every year and the manager and recruitment team are certainly doing that while keeping us competitive. We seem to finally be targeting winners too instead of flashy marketable nice guys. It will be a great squad for promising younger players to come in and learn the ropes. This group looks happy and hungry. If City weren’t such a machine I’d fancy us to go a lot closer next season but we are slowly getting there.
I’m delighted.
Yeah he would have struggled in the Wimbledon era, the likes of Fashanu for them, Brian Deane for Sheff Utd, Shearer, Sutton etc. it was the era of pumping the ball into the box high. Lindelof also wouldn’t have been a CB
Luckily it isn't, we are struggling against FFP, not the actual access to the money/credit in order to finance the moves.
Aye. It’s been reported there’s £260m available to spend but in order to toe the FFP line we can’t just go and blow it all. We’ll need to start selling players for a decent fee to spend more.
It's weirdly exciting. It isn't an aspect of a football team I would have put much weight on a few years ago but I think it can totally change a team. I think even just with Martinez we saw that at times last season.
It is not true. Whoever said that doesnt make any logical reason at all. Inter wanted around 50m-55m euro and everyone knows it and if United have any worry at all about its budget, thdy would not make the bid. Its common sense and it looks like the person said it doesnt think what is coming from his mouth.
Saying we are in negotiations and talking about price?
I haven’t seen any English press say that. It’s all coming from the Italian side. Fabrizio include. Inter need money and they are doing their best to try and promote a good fee.
I guarantee we will need be looking to bid/agree in the region of £40m.
Cheers for the replies back.
If you see Ogden or ESPN, just pretend that you didn't see anything.
Don’t Inter still owe Utd money for lukaku aswell? Surely that will come into the equation
He made it clear that DDG would no longer be the automatic No.1 at the club.
If I had to guess, our budget is tight because most would have thought the takeover should have happened by now.
But since the glazers have left us in limbo, there was no chance they would sanction high wages for both goalkeepers.
Even in his highlight videos his shot stopping and mostly the resulting movement of the ball after stopping a shot can look a bit dodgy at times. I dont know if it does results in goals scored against him. Might require a bit more anticipation from the defenders.
Of course.
I bet you will be one of many posters writing every time he makes a mistake “DdG would have saved it”
First of all DdG isn’t even good at shot stopping any longer.
Second the idea would be that the positives with Onana (not being pub level on the ball, not making the entire defence worse and nervous, not giving possession away even when under little to no pressure, let alone under pressure , controlling to whom you want to play the ball, etc.) will lead to more chances created/goals scored and much less possession lost/chances/goals conceded. Yes Onana will make stupid mistakes but I am sure he will also be one of the reasons the goal difference/goals scored will be much higher than especially in the last couple of seasons.
Chill out lad. No one’s back in the office until Monday.Obvious: Mount is a good crosser and Onana will sprint all the way into the box to head it in.
I don’t think you’ve seen him play have you? He’s a goalie for a reason.
I'd question his ability as a coach/manager if he wasn't
Why don't we just keep Henderson?
Capable goalkeeper who can play the way that is needed. No fee = more to spend on a striker.
Capable goalkeeper who can play the way that is needed. No fee = more to spend on a striker.
Strong Barthez vibes in this video. Thought I'd do a search in the thread to see if Barthez has already been mentioned... 3 pages of results
Very good, he saves shots others have trouble with. He gets down very easily.
This is akin to signing the next Barthez.
Will be good for a few laughs at least.
Will be good for a few laughs at least.
He seemed happy to extend his contract.
He's a very solid keeper and we'd be buying him at a very good age. I'd say the biggest pluses of Onana over De Gea will be the drastic improvement in the commanding of our area and more obviously the build up play from the back with which Onana has the capability to beat the press. Not very often you see a keeper with the level of technique that he has when striking passes.
Strong Barthez vibes in this video. Thought I'd do a search in the thread to see if Barthez has already been mentioned... 3 pages of results
Put some respect on Barthez's name
I liked Barthez
Onana is the kind of dick who will probably go on a strike if Inter try to bump the price up.
I think he is the guy, besides Costa. He costs less and is just as good if not better.
Replacing De Gea requires a good shot stopper and someone better at sweeping, claiming crosses and passing. Onana is all of those things.
As a kid and teenager I thought that Barthez was overrated, not that he was bad because he was pretty good but because he seemingly kept his early 20s rating for a long time and he was on a downward trajectory when he joined United, iirc he was already exploring his main passion in motorsports. Now one thing that Barthez had he was an excellent shot stopper and his left foot was incredibly accurate, he had the ability to pass the ball like any good non-goalkeeper.
Sweeper transfer
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