Ander Herrera to PSG? | Gone.
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It's a shame if he does go, but he CAN be replaced. Workhorses are easier to find than creators like Pogba.
If he can go and get 200k of PSG then you can't really blame him, as he hasn't won any league titles in his career either.
He's reaching the point where he's still in his prime but might suddenly drop, and we don't want to be stuck on high wages with an aging player like usual.
If he can go and get 200k of PSG then you can't really blame him, as he hasn't won any league titles in his career either.
He's reaching the point where he's still in his prime but might suddenly drop, and we don't want to be stuck on high wages with an aging player like usual.
I feel for the guy but he's a squad player turning 30 this year - it doesn't make sense to offer blockbuster wages. The Sanchez scenario has been an expensive mistake. If we did extend Herrera's contract we would be looking for a replacement soon enough anyway.
I generally agree - but in our current position, we can't afford to find yet another player to replace - especially one who is actually doing a decent job.
Well, we should start if we want to get out of this vicious "transition" cycle. Herrera is a good player, but not one who would take us to the highest level. We need to get our act together at some point, and this summer is as good a time as any.
He has to go if they are offering 200k in wages. He's easily replaced if we are honest.
Yep, and our players know this. We’re in a real tough situation, if we can’t offer trophies or at least seriously challenge for them we lose a lot of leverage. We have a long road ahead unfortunately.
I think this might be the start of something. I know we signed on a few players most of us don't seem worthy of a new contract in Jan but Ole wasn't confirmed then and I wonder if this is the start of not keep players on as they move into their 30's and start filling those slots with youth. I will miss him as he has an obvious passion for the club, but I do think he can be replace as many have said above. The squad needs refreshing and I can honestly see about 6 leaving us this summer. The youth we have isn't going to improve without having the opportunities at the highest level. That is where you learn. Again, as others have said; if he can get himself 200K for what is probably his last major contract, then good luck to him.
Love Ander but we have one of the highest wage bills in Europe I believe and the highest (or second highest) in England which, for a team that struggles to compete for the big trophies, isn't good enough. Big contracts have to be earned through success.
The longer this goes on the more I’m happy to let him go.
I really like Ander; he has an obvious passion for the club, says the right things, and leaves it all on the pitch. He’s been a good servant for us. However he’s pushing 30, is technically limited in some areas of his game and doesn’t really justify the £200K+ he apparently wants. It would be difficult to replace but we’re going to have to replace him shortly anyway so may as well pull off the band aid and find a cheaper like for like or a more expensive upgrade.
If he can go and get crazy money at PSG for his last contract then fair play to the lad. Go there, earn a fat stack and win a couple of French trophies. I don’t begrudge him that.
Just because he can afford our crazy wage bill doesn’t mean it’s right and more and more players will take us for a ride. There’s absolutely no justification for our position in competing compared to the wage bill tables. It’s absurd even if we can afford it.
I really like Ander; he has an obvious passion for the club, says the right things, and leaves it all on the pitch. He’s been a good servant for us. However he’s pushing 30, is technically limited in some areas of his game and doesn’t really justify the £200K+ he apparently wants. It would be difficult to replace but we’re going to have to replace him shortly anyway so may as well pull off the band aid and find a cheaper like for like or a more expensive upgrade.
If he can go and get crazy money at PSG for his last contract then fair play to the lad. Go there, earn a fat stack and win a couple of French trophies. I don’t begrudge him that.
Just because he can afford our crazy wage bill doesn’t mean it’s right and more and more players will take us for a ride. There’s absolutely no justification for our position in competing compared to the wage bill tables. It’s absurd even if we can afford it.
Probably the closest to an actual Captain on the team and most folks are talking about how really he'll be replaced...
If he wants to go then let him, He isn't as good as many on here would have you believe. The thing we will miss the most is his passion, as we have far too many lax attitude players as it is.
There is something rotten at this club. What other team rushes to get fecking sick notes, who can’t even be counted as squad players, signed up, but let important players run down their contracts and leave it too late to come to a sensible agreement. This wouldn’t be a problem if we had capable people at the top, owners, Ed etc. Alas, we don’t, so imo this is a real problem.
We already needed more quality in the middle with Herrera included. One step forward, two steps back. That is Manchester United post SAF.
We already needed more quality in the middle with Herrera included. One step forward, two steps back. That is Manchester United post SAF.
He always talks a good game and often plays one too. He's hardly irreplaceable though, so either way... whatever. Paris is a nicer city than Manchester, they have better players (if not a better team) and there's almost zero pressure other than when it comes time to fall flat in the Champion's League each year. I can see the appeal.
By that logic, we should sell everyone bar 3-4 players. Your last sentence is wishful thinking. What evidence is there that the powers that be suddenly has a genuine plan and will act accordingly? We need a lot of very good players to get to that next level.
To me we should have rewarded him when we won the EL and he was given MOTM and won the POTY. Even if we had just lengthened his contract by another couple of years, he probably would have been happy with that at a bit of a pay rise. Then he would have been here until he is near 32 and if we let him go then, fine. Except we, I think presumed he would just wait and wait. It was reported the other day that we told him we had taken the year option by post. Surely we aren't that impersonal?
Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking. We have left it too late, and as such I wouldn’t fault him for trying something new with excellent team mates and all but guaranteed league titles. All these posters saying it’s alright, we should be doing better etc, seem to conveniently forget that we already need to upgrade 4-5 positions as it is.
Agree
It's the bring the kids in as well. That is a hell of a risk, to throw them in. The same ones will be moaning when we are mid-table. We need top 4, yes we signed Pogba, who we paid a lot but he had a connection to the club, the others I do not count. They were stop gap signings either injury prone, not wanted by their old clubs or past their best. They are throwing names about as though Manchester United is still the biggest draw, it isn't, we have fallen down the pecking order. Also we have, an unknown to most players, manager. It will be interesting, but people thinking everything will be fine might be in for a wake up call, it could go either way, so be prepared.
I think the Sanchez deal fecked us big time. We gave a ridiculous salary for a former player in all but name at a time when a big chunk of the squad was renewing its contract. They probably wondered that if someone whose more shot then the Romanov family can get that salary for sitting on the bench or play the piano in commercials then so can they who actually bother playing football for us. Can't really blame them.
Anyway the damage has been done and we can't give 200k a week to a nearly 29 year old squad player whose game focuses mostly on workrate. United won't be winning top honours anytime soon so we might as well not allowing ourselves to be blackmailed and build a team for the future instead. I'd say we should replace him with guys such as Tonali, Zaniolo, Pellegrini and Rodri instead.
Anyway the damage has been done and we can't give 200k a week to a nearly 29 year old squad player whose game focuses mostly on workrate. United won't be winning top honours anytime soon so we might as well not allowing ourselves to be blackmailed and build a team for the future instead. I'd say we should replace him with guys such as Tonali, Zaniolo, Pellegrini and Rodri instead.
If he can go somewhere else, earn more money and have a better chance of winning trophies who can blame him.
The reality is we havent even competed for the top trophies since SAF left and are regularly missing out on the Champions League. Playing for the club isn’t the draw it once was and we look at least two years away from being competitive.
I like Herrera and he has been a decent player for us but we desperately need more players throughout the team with more technical ability so don’t see it is big problem if he goes. Biggest downside is it’s another player to replace in what must surely already be a busy window and if Pogba/De Gea push for move to Madrid on top of the obvious outgoings the turnover of players will be unmanageable.
The reality is we havent even competed for the top trophies since SAF left and are regularly missing out on the Champions League. Playing for the club isn’t the draw it once was and we look at least two years away from being competitive.
I like Herrera and he has been a decent player for us but we desperately need more players throughout the team with more technical ability so don’t see it is big problem if he goes. Biggest downside is it’s another player to replace in what must surely already be a busy window and if Pogba/De Gea push for move to Madrid on top of the obvious outgoings the turnover of players will be unmanageable.
I don’t think Ole will succeed here (PL/CL win). I don’t think anyone could win those here over the next couple of seasons. The summer transfer window will be an indication, but I’m not confident it will indicate us getting to that fabled ‘next level’.
I think if Ole can do what Poch is doing at Spurs - stable and comfortable Top 4 status without a dog-fight, good CL performances (QFs minimum) plus the odd domestic cup (which Poch didn't do ofc), all the while making smart signings and playing an attacking brand of football, that would be enough to call him a success.
Basically, he can stay for 2-3 years doing that and leave a solid base for the next guy to win titles with us. Something LvG was supposed to do for instance but failed to.
If Ole exceeds expectations and wins titles, well and good. But don't expect it with City being what they are and Liverpool also ahead in their progress.
Inclined to agree unfortunately.
I am not sure if I posted this in another thread or not, and I do like him, but he's been at United for 5 years. How much of that time have we really been satisfied with his performance? I'd suggest not much of it.
Would that be enough though? I’m not so sure. A lot of the criticism Poch is getting on here is exactly that he is an expert in getting top 4 without actually winning anything. Being realistic, I actually would be relatively happy with that, if he gets proper backing. Which he won’t. Meaning he’s not competing on equal footing with City and Liverpool.
Can't help but suspect that the P$G rumors might have something to do with this sudden 'injury'...
Man Utd cant afford fake injuries of one of our best players against Barcelona.
I think it will be harder to replace him than some think.
The last midfielder we bought was Fred, who hasn't exactly been brilliant.
I'd prefer Ander to stay, but if PSG are offering him loads of money it's hard to blame him for taking it.
The last midfielder we bought was Fred, who hasn't exactly been brilliant.
I'd prefer Ander to stay, but if PSG are offering him loads of money it's hard to blame him for taking it.
I'm personally gutted if he goes. One of the few players with passion in this wet team.
Also that's another £50-£60 million we need spunk out for a new midfielder.
Also that's another £50-£60 million we need spunk out for a new midfielder.
It will be enough for our fans for the next 2 years. The fact is, our squad is broken and we don't buy quickly or easily like City. So almost every signing Ole makes has to be an 8-10/10 which is already a lot on his plate. Good football + domestic cups + regular CL qualification without stuttering and stammering like we have done for the past 3 years will be a welcome "peaceful" period prior to taking the next step.
If Pogba had come out with those quotes. Herrera can do one.
If he'd been after a new deal for over a year, ready to commit, with his contract running out, then it would be fair enough IMV.
The club shouldn't cave into Ander's demands of course, given his age and importance, but ultimately, this situation is squarely on Woodward.
The ones above? Don't see whats outlandish considering his contract is due to be up. Hardly comparable to a player on a long contract saying the same
Yep on top of the gaping lack of quality we already need. He wasn’t one of the players that needed replacing.
Is this the "future captain"? 
If mr loyal herera wants to go to psg a replacement could be hamidou haidara from rb salzberg this player always get's forgotten about in discussion s about midfield replacements
We dont have time for his nonsense, Ole should just play Pereira or McTominay until the end of the season.
There's about feck all chance he's getting "the Valencia treatment".
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