Escobar
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I hope he reaches the next level. I feel that he could do more in our games, especially going forward. But he's a huge reason why we do so well and have a settled midfield
Solid performance as per usual. He's Mourinho's favourite worker-bee.
Tho one thing i noticed sometimes he's too fast to get rid of possession and just pass the ball which isn't always the best decision.
Wish he would stand on the ball more often and look around as Carrick does.
Great player tho and we are relying on him the same way we are on Carrick. Would like to see TFM getting some minutes in his role when we're giving Herrera some rest.
Also the deflected one against Arsenal off the top of my head.
Has made 48 interceptions this season, highest of any EPL midfielder, 5th overall. The other 2 midfielders in the top ten are Kante in 7th with 47 and Kouyate in 10th with 45.
https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/interception
He's not a defensive midfielder. He's a box to box midfielder with great defensive skillsOne of the best defensive midfielders in the world presently. Very impressed by his transformation.
He's not a defensive midfielder. He's a box to box midfielder with great defensive skills
A defensive midfielder is not someone who's the first player to press. Herrera is much more than a defensive playerSemantics aside he presses the hell out of opposing teams and, as pointed out above, has the most midfield interceptions of any PL players. He has been reinvented into a monster defensive player.
Just to add that Michael Carrick's 2.8 interceptions a match in 13/14 was the most he accomplished over a premier league season. He did have higher over the course of a few champions league games mind you. But the comparison has to be premier league season to premier league season.
It is often talked about how great Carrick is at reading the game, how good he is intercepting rather than tackling. This season Ander is doing this more than Carrick has ever done in a premier league season.
What he does is he ensures that pass isn't even played. Those won't appear on interceptions.
Yeah he has supernatural and mind controlling abilities that no other player has.
He would cut out the channel for passing thereby cutting supply. It's not rocket science. It's also why people say 'He reads the game well'
Just like every other player tries to do that. Ander does that too while he's intercepting
Just like every other player tries to do that.
Great stats, he's an absolute menace in how relentless he presses. 400 minutes less than Kante too.Has made 48 interceptions this season, highest of any EPL midfielder, 5th overall. The other 2 midfielders in the top ten are Kante in 7th with 47 and Kouyate in 10th with 45.
https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/interception
A defensive midfielder is not someone who's the first player to press. Herrera is much more than a defensive player
Yes that doesnt make him a defensive midfielder as you claimedHe is obviously an all round midfielder with attacking capabilities, but its his contibutions to our defense that are now off the charts. He is consistently breaking up opposition teams and allowing us to launch frequent attacks. Ander is playing a different role this season and flourishing.
Yeah he has supernatural and mind controlling abilities that no other player has.
Yes that doesnt make him a defensive midfielder as you claimed
I think you will be hard pressed to find a midfield player who performs that two way role to the standard he does it, who is not already settled at a big club, let alone a pure upgrade on him. What you will find is maybe a better defender or a better attacker but one as complete as him? Difficult to say, its also easy to forget that he is emerging from a tough couple of seasons spent under a manager that tried to completely change how he plays and erase the things that make him a very good player - no doubt his self belief would have been shot.
Carrick positions himself to stop the pass from being played in. Others curb the pass before it reaches the player. The former is tougher to do. No one else in our team does it as good. None of Herrera Blind Fellaini Pogba. That's why Carrick is right now indispensable.
EDIT: In retrospect, it's a bit harsh to describe Ander as marginally above average in terms of talent. He's one of the best jack-of-all-trades midfielders in the Premier League, does a bit of everything to a good, if not world class standard. He'd be an asset to any team in the Premier League.
He @Escobar is actually right, Ander isn't really a DM, that'd be Carrick in our team.I respectfully disagree. As the player with the most intercetions and tackles in our side that that is precisely how he is being used at the moment. Call him a holding mid or defensive mid is semantics but its the role he is excelling at. Pogba is the box2box guy for the time being because he is more talented. From the horses mouth:
"But Paul is a very strong, very physical player who shoots with both feet. He can dribble, he can defend… he has it all! I can then stay back to steal the ball, to keep the position, and from there initiate attacks. I’m fine, and I’ll try to provide everything that the manager asks of me. With [Jose] Mourinho I have also played in attacking positions in the EFL Cup and even scored a goal. I am a team player and I will do whatever he asks of me, but I'm very happy ahead of the defensive line.
"But now I think I have some consistency. I know I have to keep working to earn Mourinho's confidence even more, but it is true that I feel good in the new position and it's also true that maybe that little change of position was what has allowed me to receive a Spain call-up."
Paul Scholes began his career as an attacking mid but obviously laterly became a holding midfielder (deep lying playmaker). No point still calling him an attacking mid once his position changed. Same goes for Hererra. He is being used presently in a DM role though obviously can fulfil others.
What a willfully obtuse comment to a perfectly valid observation. Sadly one that sums up the modern day football 'expert' who places stats above else when evaluating a players worth.
There's a lot that stats don't tell you about a player.
He @Escobar is actually right, Ander isn't really a DM, that'd be Carrick in our team.
Herrera is more of a box to box who presses everywhere and also high up the pitch. You normally wouldn't see DM constantly pressing as high as the opposition goalkeeper.
Carrick is the one who sit in front of the defense, Herrera roams everywhere. The difference between him and Pogba is that the latter is tasked with the creative burden of the team and has a lot less restriction with his positional discipline and can wonder high up the pitch very often while the former in Herrera is more tasked with recycling and intercepting the ball and get our flow going. He also roams all over the pitch and press as high as the opposition's goalkeeper.
But Herrera is definite not a DM but more of a box to box with an inclination to more defensive duties.
Maybe its because his attacking game has been on a decline since he came here but this could also be as a result of added defensive responsibility so its hard to fault him with that when you study his stats. Matching or bettering Kante is no joke and he deserves praise for that imo.Yea I agree, its a weird one who said that
This idea we need a herrera upgrade is laughable, we seeing the fruits of our labor shine, what upgrade could we possibly want? he is the engine of this team that is perfect for this club slowly getting on the up. Herrera and Pogba's engine is one of the best in the PL