I love it when people watching a game are quite happy for somebody to get their faces kicked in.
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Love Ander, still not sure he'll ever settle under Louis. I'd still like to see him alongside Schneiderlin against a lesser side maybe.
100% record. That took some guts in such a big game.
Our best #10, watch him get dropped for Rooney as Martial takes #9.
Sorry but that's part of the gameI love it when people watching a game are quite happy for somebody to get their faces kicked in.
Many players would have put their heads in there
Apart from that Herrera and a decent game but that was a little disappointing
I don't see how thats strange?
He struggled because Liverpool's entire game plan was denying space in the middle in front of their box, he then moved out of their and looked quite bright.
I think Mata is, but he wasnt on the pitch.
Likely the same sort who headbutt walls and put their fists through windows.
No, I don't want to be too harsh cos I really like Herrera and want him to start, but most mangers will fecking kill him for ducking out of that and I expect Lvg to give him a right ear full
Can't decide whether I blame him for that Benteke goal or not. He definitely would've won a free kick if he got his head in there but wanting someone to get a boot in side of the head just to stop a goal in a football match almost feels sadistic. It could genuinely cause a serious injury.
Was awful except for the goal and I was livid he didn't challenge Benteke at all for the goal, but watching the replays it's clear that he could have done nothing about it.
No, I don't want to be too harsh cos I really like Herrera and want him to start, but most mangers will fecking kill him for ducking out of that and I expect Lvg to give him a right ear full
Completely agree. That said, I love the little bugger.
They are probably both better penalty takers than Wayne.
This. Anyone with a brain would avoid that. Phil Jones, on the other hand...
Phil's head would have ended up in Row Z and he would still be running about.
His head would still manage to maintain one of it's infamous scary faces.
'Blood and guts' football is great, makes for fabulous narrative, but there's a fine line between commitment and mental behavior, and players are responsible for their own safety. If Ander didn't think butting into Benteke's foot was a great idea, fine by me. Rather concede a goal, than have a player suffer concussion, or worse get sidelined for a while. That does the club and manager no good, and injuries to the head are no joke.
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Played with energy and did well for the penalty, overall not a great game from him but it's difficult to play as a #10 when Mata and Fellaini are 2 of your 3 options as runners, since neither have any pace to get in behind.
could have tried to block that that's true but I can tell from my experience playing beach football for a couple of years that you don't really want to get too close... seen an ambulance coming for inexperienced player who tried to block a scissor kick and got his jawbone broken with a lot of blood around. And Benteke is a different beast with his boots on. That was as powerful kick as it gets
Ya, I posted that at HT when neither had done anything. Herrera improved slightly, and the penalty was fantastic.
Criticising him for ducking is massively harsh, in my opinion, Benteke is a big fecker and you're basically asking Herrera to put his head in the way of his boot at full force. That'd cause serious damage.
It does raise the question of dangerous play though, bicycle kicks are always a bit dodgy in that regard, but I'd hate to see them banned.
It does raise the question of dangerous play though, bicycle kicks are always a bit dodgy in that regard, but I'd hate to see them banned.
He was nothing special today bar a very clever bit of play to win the penalty. I am finding it very difficult to see advantages of playing him as number 10 esp in matches where opponent seem happy to stay deep and close the space between midfielders and defense. I was a big fan of his showing as a box to box player on right last season, but as a number 10 he seems to be a little limited. May be he needs more game time at that position to prove himself also considering since he's not really a DM, it'd be difficult to see him compete for any places bar number 10.
It makes it look like he's standing still, but he was actually moving towards Benteke and turning away. Vidic and Jones probably wouldn't have done that, but Herrera was too far away from Benteke to make much of a difference. At least that's how it looked to me.
Played out right at the end. Wonder if he'll get any more time there, maybe with Martial and Rooney as the front 2, or even swapping with Mata?
Herrera after the game: "When you come to Manchester United, the first thing you think of is scoring against Liverpool at Old Trafford."
This guy
This guy
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It was hilarious tbh but I know one thing, I would do the same thing. No way am I getting in the way of that.
No way you could do Benteke for dangerous play, agreed. The Jerome? goal the other week that was chalked off was a disgrace. Everyone loves a bicycle kick and fair play, that goal was a belter today.
I can excuse Herrera for not challenging for the cross. Kompany ducked Rooney's bicycle kick after all. Still, you might have expected him to try and put his body in the way of the strike like players do at free kicks. He could easily have jumped and turned his back as if charging down a strike. Yes, it could've wrong footed De Gea and deflected in anyway. If you're going to make that argument though you may as well scrap walls at set pieces.
I was really disappointed with the way Herrera got into good areas first half but played safe, rather than attempt a shot or a difficult pass. Yes, Van Gaal might have blown a gasket at him for conceding possession. Still, if you play at #10 for Man Utd you should be more scared of not scoring or creating goals than of being yelled at by the manager.
The great plus of having Herrera in the side is that he offers goals from midfield. Had Benteke's goal been an equaliser the momentum in the match would have totally changed. We needed the second goal to give us some breathing space, and Herrera delivered: bought the penalty and rifled it home. He deserves some credit for that, especially as that was his first penalty in a competitive fixture. Two goals from his last three starts at United is a solid return.
I was really disappointed with the way Herrera got into good areas first half but played safe, rather than attempt a shot or a difficult pass. Yes, Van Gaal might have blown a gasket at him for conceding possession. Still, if you play at #10 for Man Utd you should be more scared of not scoring or creating goals than of being yelled at by the manager.
The great plus of having Herrera in the side is that he offers goals from midfield. Had Benteke's goal been an equaliser the momentum in the match would have totally changed. We needed the second goal to give us some breathing space, and Herrera delivered: bought the penalty and rifled it home. He deserves some credit for that, especially as that was his first penalty in a competitive fixture. Two goals from his last three starts at United is a solid return.
Pft, knowing me I would have jumped and thrown an arm into Benteke or the ball and ended up copping the penalty. So I can't blame him too much but really he probably should have showed a bit more commitment
Yep, I've never understood them. Unless a defender is well away, it should almost always count as a foul, but never does.
His attacking and creative instincts seem to have been well and truly 'Van Gaal'd'.
I dont blame him in the slightest for what was a freak, brilliant goal from Benteke. He showed glimpses of his class but he's obviously suffering from a fear of being dropped and was playing it safer than he usually does. LVG needs to reassure him his place is safe if we're to see what he can really do.
Needs to get in the game more. Not offering much going ahead. He is just trying too hard to make those brilliant through balls that is not working for him. Should stick to basics.
Great taken penalty thought. Unstoppable.
Great taken penalty thought. Unstoppable.
Agree that if it was Vida not Ander, he would not probably have ducked, but all our defenders were much closer to our own goal, so at least Ander tried to close the space. I'd rather take one great goal from Benteke rather than have Herrera out with concussion for several weeks. If we have a bit more pacy winger than Mata and a bit more lively forward than Fellaini, Herrera would thrive. Also loved how he played those one twos in the last 10-15 seconds in the center of the park, pissing off Liverpool players 
Agreed with this. Also doesn't help when the only player willing to make run today was Mata who is going to find it very difficult to escape with Liverpool narrow defending. I like his energy though. His offer of making runs was the primary reason Carrick was able to play the pass and he was able to win the penalty. We need more players willing to make runs and sacrifice themselves for the team rather than playing final balls or taking players on and trying to scoring.
Love the guy!
The new Ole in terms of the loving factor
As for the goal, unless you're brave like Vidic and Terry or someone who has no brain to process anything like Phil Jones, you are not getting your face/head in the way of Benteke's swinging leg.
The new Ole in terms of the loving factor
As for the goal, unless you're brave like Vidic and Terry or someone who has no brain to process anything like Phil Jones, you are not getting your face/head in the way of Benteke's swinging leg.
Spot on. We need more than one striker or one player making runs in the box. I think we are not putting enough pressure on the opposition defense when closer to their box. The more pressure we put the more chances of getting free kicks and penalties in the box, not to mention goal scoring opportunities. Also, our own goal needs to come out of hiding and have a stellar season
According to an after game interview on the United website Herrera has never ever taken a penalty in a competitive game before. So even more well done Ander.
Ander Herrera revealed after the game to MUTV that his penalty in the 3-1 win over Liverpool was the first he has ever taken in a competitive match.
The Spanish midfielder showed few nerves when hammering his spot-kick past Simon Mignolet to double Manchester United's lead after he was fouled by Joe Gomez inside the box. However, he was only on spot-kick duty because of Juan Mata's substitution and Wayne Rooney's injury so he was actually a novice in this area.
When asked if he had taken one before, he replied: "Never, never. But the manager last season gave me the confidence. He told me I had the quality to take penalties and I have practiced every week. And, today, when I received the penalty, I thought the number-one taker isn’t on the pitch, I’m the second taker so I’m happy for that. But, next time, if the number-one taker is on the pitch I won’t be taking it.
"I tried [put some force behind it] because I knew in advance that [Simon] Mignolet is a big keeper, very tall and very elastic. I tried to hit it as hard as possible and it was a good goal but the most important thing was the win."
Herrera was clearly delighted to experience another fabulous occasion at Old Trafford.
"It’s not only a victory," he said. "It’s a very special day for us and our fans. When I arrived here, I realised what this game means for our fans. I have played three games against them and beat them in every game so I am very happy."
Ander Herrera revealed after the game to MUTV that his penalty in the 3-1 win over Liverpool was the first he has ever taken in a competitive match.
The Spanish midfielder showed few nerves when hammering his spot-kick past Simon Mignolet to double Manchester United's lead after he was fouled by Joe Gomez inside the box. However, he was only on spot-kick duty because of Juan Mata's substitution and Wayne Rooney's injury so he was actually a novice in this area.
When asked if he had taken one before, he replied: "Never, never. But the manager last season gave me the confidence. He told me I had the quality to take penalties and I have practiced every week. And, today, when I received the penalty, I thought the number-one taker isn’t on the pitch, I’m the second taker so I’m happy for that. But, next time, if the number-one taker is on the pitch I won’t be taking it.
"I tried [put some force behind it] because I knew in advance that [Simon] Mignolet is a big keeper, very tall and very elastic. I tried to hit it as hard as possible and it was a good goal but the most important thing was the win."
Herrera was clearly delighted to experience another fabulous occasion at Old Trafford.
"It’s not only a victory," he said. "It’s a very special day for us and our fans. When I arrived here, I realised what this game means for our fans. I have played three games against them and beat them in every game so I am very happy."
Wasn't great but one think I do like about him is his urgency when he has the ball. He doesn't feck about when he has the ball. Wonder how he'd do on the right side of the midfield.
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