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He is good, but if you look at Kroos at the RM game, the difference in class is so evident. Still think he is a great player but I doubt he'll become a world class player.
I wonder if Kroos had started his career at Bilbao you'd have the same opinion?
I'm pretty sure it's a lot easier to play with Ribery, Schweinsteiger, Muller, Lahm, Robben, Ronaldo, Bale, Modric & Benzema than it is to play with Aduriz, Muniain, Susaeta, Llorente, Iturraspe, Rooney, Hernandez & Fletcher.
That's not his game though, he's Spanish so plays like most other spanish players, but with the bite and energy\ to his game and not quite as good on the ball as the best spanish midfielders. His playing style on the ball though, he doesn't do the long balls like scholes so much, and he's not a deep lying playmaker really to dictate the tempo. He likes moving about, opening space for himself to receive the ball and the quickly give it to somebody to speed up the tempo of the game. His through passes are very good of course, but you can't really expect him to play like a player that is a completely different style to him.
He's a good player. It's nice to finally have a midfielder worthy of Manchester United.
We need a world class player to partner him, this much is obvious.Need two more of him at least.
We need a world class player to partner him, this much is obvious.
He can't be any worse than our current midfielder's contribution to goals.I know his goal scoring record for Athletic is not great but I get the feeling he may help himself to a few here.
TBF it's more of a difference in playing style. Ander is a high energy box-to-box player while Kroos is more of a conductor. There are things that Ander does which Kroos can't, especially in a purely 2 man midfield. Real played more of a 3 with Modric and James where Kroos' comparitive lack of work-rate gets masked just like with Schweinsteiger + Khedira for Germany or Schweinstiger + Lahm/ Martinez/ Thiago for Bayern.
I'd be elated with Blind and Vidal joining Herrera and Carrick.I'd say two. I've spent all pre season worrying about him picking up an injury I think we need 2 more CM's of similar or better class.
Kroos played with all them and was still the central hub for all Bayern's attacking play. Literally everything went through him and because one guy said he was an AM everyone jumped on the bandwagon. I would have given my left nut to see him next to Herrera. The closest young player to Scholes I've ever seen.
Mixed performance today, very good in the first half, less so in the second. Reminds me alot of Scholes.
Ah, he was better than Fletcher and Cleverley. Remember his ball to Young before the Rooney penalty? And some of his touches were sublime. Nothing incredible but it's not as if Fletcher or Cleverley were excellent. Fellaini was okay but scored a goal. He's currently our best midfielder, but that's not saying much.Did ok but I think people are willing him to do well so much that they see performances that aren't there.
You could definitely make a case for him being the least impressive of all our CMs tonight. That's including last season's scapegoats Marouane Fellaini and Tom Cleverley.
Put in a couple of decent tackles and ran round a lot but didn't anything remotely memorable in an attacking sense and seemed to get the weight and direction slightly off on most of his passes.
Did ok but I think people are willing him to do well so much that they see performances that aren't there.
You could definitely make a case for him being the least impressive of all our CMs tonight. That's including last season's scapegoats Marouane Fellaini and Tom Cleverley.
Put in a couple of decent tackles and ran round a lot but didn't anything remotely memorable in an attacking sense and seemed to get the weight and direction slightly off on most of his passes.
Ah, he was better than Fletcher and Cleverley. Remember his ball to Young before the Rooney penalty? And some of his touches were sublime. Nothing incredible but it's not as if Fletcher or Cleverley were excellent. Fellaini was okay but scored a goal. He's currently our best midfielder, but that's not saying much.
He certainly attempted to link midfield and attack more than most, our front three remained anonymous for the most part in the game unfortunately. Thought he did well and was certainly on par, at least, with any of our other midfielders tonight. It was a pre-season game though so I'm not going to read too much into it. But Herrera, for me, is by far our best midfielder currently... Which still worries me regarding our midfield.I do. It was slightly over-hit. Young did really well to wrap his foot round it. The Fletcher through ball which Rooney couldn't quite control was better.
Neither Fletcher nor Cleverley were excellent but they passed the ball much more consistently and accurately than Hererra. That one (overhit) pass to Young, what else did he actually do with the ball that caused Valencia any problems?
I think that's an accurate observation, we will be better with him in the team but there is still room for improvement on his part. If it comes together for him he will be immense.Don't think he's been great in preseason, at all. His passing has been wayward at times and he's given away a lot of fouls. This guy is definitely a work in progress.
I think a lot on here got a little carried away because he was our first midfield signing in like seven years. His been a little up and down so far, passing has been a little suspect as well.
People are overrating his performances. He's been ok at best
I was buzzing when we signed him and might have overrated him myself because well we finally signed a midfielder. I'll obviously let him settle before finally judging him but we really need to get a top quality player next to him I mean he had better midfielders in Martinez, Itturaspe, Rico and Benat the he does at United.He's a dynamic midfielder with great technique, fantastic at moving the ball forward with quick one touch passing, can spray the ball about and likes to put a foot in, that's why we're getting carried away, so what he miss places a few passes, he's a proper midfielder at last.
Pfft.. No we're not. He's been quite good even in the absence of a top class midfield counterpart.. Herrera will improve as he gets used to the team sure. But he's been much better tha "ok at best"..
And also because his first performance, against LA Galaxy, was genuinely great, with a lot of fast forward incisive passing and a lot of grit.I think a lot on here got a little carried away because he was our first midfield signing in like seven years. His been a little up and down so far, passing has been a little suspect as well.
Yeah the Galaxy performance was something we haven't seen from one of our midfielders in a long time so expectations would have gone up.And also because his first performance, against LA Galaxy, was genuinely great, with a lot of fast forward incisive passing and a lot of grit.
I agree that he's not been amazing in pre-season, but he looks solid and he's a huge improvement on everything we have in midfield. I'd still really like it if we could sign one other top notch midfielder, I think we need it.
Yep, I think he might pick up a couple of reds and a few yellows, he likes to get stuck in. I'd rather that than players ghosting away from challenges though.Looks a great addition but I fear he will get sent off a few times this season if he doesn't tone his tackling down a bit.
