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I must be the only one that thought Herrera went to block the pass rather than 'Do' Gerrard in that challenge. Look how far from Gerrard he actually ended up being. If he wanted a piece of Stevie he would have got it.

I thought the same. Especially because that's practically Herrera' trademark tackle. More than any United player I can remember watching for years and years, he knows how to win the ball even when the opponent gets his foot to it first. Most players, once they decide to tackle, just throw everything at reaching the ball first regardless of whether they have a realistic chance of doing so. Herrera tends to see this coming, predict where the opponent's touch will take the ball, and set himself to block that touch instead.
 
The most over rated midfielder of all time can apologise to Herrera and while he's at it clean his boots.
 
The only reason Atkinson booked Herrera was because it was Anfield. Nothing else. Herrera doesn't even touch Slippy G at all.
 
Interesting player. His mix of attributes makes it hard to tell just how much potential he has.

I'm certainly less worried for his future here after hearing his explanation for why LVG left him out earlier in the season.
 
I thought the same. Especially because that's practically Herrera' trademark tackle. More than any United player I can remember watching for years and years, he knows how to win the ball even when the opponent gets his foot to it first. Most players, once they decide to tackle, just throw everything at reaching the ball first regardless of whether they have a realistic chance of doing so. Herrera tends to see this coming, predict where the opponent's touch will take the ball, and set himself to block that touch instead.

I refuse to believe that, mainly because it would be such a terrible technique. You're only every supposed to go to ground if you're 100% certain you'll get to the ball. If he's trying to second guess his opponents first touch he'll be left on his arse by a simple feint or dummy.
 
I refuse to believe that, mainly because it would be such a terrible technique. You're only every supposed to go to ground if you're 100% certain you'll get to the ball. If he's trying to second guess his opponents first touch he'll be left on his arse by a simple feint or dummy.

I rewatched the Liverpool match and noticed he actually did that - went for the predicted trajectory of the ball and not where the ball was at the opponents feet. He intercepted the ball :)
 
I refuse to believe that, mainly because it would be such a terrible technique. You're only every supposed to go to ground if you're 100% certain you'll get to the ball. If he's trying to second guess his opponents first touch he'll be left on his arse by a simple feint or dummy.
Watch him tackle in the future. Brightonian is right, of course sometimes he'll slide to win the ball before the defender but he really does have a knack of knowing when to slide for the ball or to slide for the block.
 
From Ander himself :boring:

''Van Gaal loves possession and doesn't like to risk losing the ball. He wants to take time with possession and to keep the ball because he believes space is created by staying in the right place, because the team has the quality to find you.

"At the beginning he used to tell me off because I always looked for the ball, I wanted to have it, and I must wait for it.":nono:

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...-Herrera-reveals-LVG-tactic-Manchester-United
 
From Ander himself :boring:

''Van Gaal loves possession and doesn't like to risk losing the ball. He wants to take time with possession and to keep the ball because he believes space is created by staying in the right place, because the team has the quality to find you.

"At the beginning he used to tell me off because I always looked for the ball, I wanted to have it, and I must wait for it.":nono:

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...-Herrera-reveals-LVG-tactic-Manchester-United
Sounds like he is keen to learn from LVG and he will improve him as a player
 
The only reason Atkinson booked Herrera was because it was Anfield. Nothing else. Herrera doesn't even touch Slippy G at all.


this look at the replay. stevie me was borderline on mata and was never touched.
 
this look at the replay. stevie me was borderline on mata and was never touched.
He definitely didn't touch him. Also agree about tackle on Mata. Gerrard was completely in the wrong frame of mind to come on. He was out to get someone. To show how hard he is.
 
He definitely didn't touch him. Also agree about tackle on Mata. Gerrard was completely in the wrong frame of mind to come on. He was out to get someone. To show how hard he is.
I bet this was in his head as he walked onto the pitch:



"I can feel it slippin' in my head tonight...oh no"
 
The only reason Atkinson booked Herrera was because it was Anfield. Nothing else. Herrera doesn't even touch Slippy G at all.
This - the ref knew he hadn't done anything dangerous and it was a blocking tackle, but having sent off the bell-end did that to get them off his back somewhat.
 
I refuse to believe that, mainly because it would be such a terrible technique. You're only every supposed to go to ground if you're 100% certain you'll get to the ball. If he's trying to second guess his opponents first touch he'll be left on his arse by a simple feint or dummy.

We're talking about moments when he's going to be beaten to the ball by a fraction of a second. The ball's only really going in one direction. Nonetheless, in that split second situation most players tend to just hope that they'll be the first to the ball and end up late as a result, either catching the player or getting skinned. The evidence is on the pitch, anyway - I'm just pointing out something that we see him do three or four times a game.
 
Is it just me or does anyone else here think Herrera now is the player we hoped Cleverley would be? I thought Cleverley would reach Herrera's currently level when he had a good run of form couple years ago.
 
This - the ref knew he hadn't done anything dangerous and it was a blocking tackle, but having sent off the bell-end did that to get them off his back somewhat.

I think you're right, it could have come back to haunt him though later in the game. Supposing Herrera made a bad challenge, that could have been him off and then a tactical yellow to appease the crowd then not only could affect the outcome of that game, but the next one as well.
 
I think you're right, it could have come back to haunt him though later in the game. Supposing Herrera made a bad challenge, that could have been him off and then a tactical yellow to appease the crowd then not only could affect the outcome of that game, but the next one as well.
Yes, definitely - it forced lvg to sub him.
 
Is it just me or does anyone else here think Herrera now is the player we hoped Cleverley would be? I thought Cleverley would reach Herrera's currently level when he had a good run of form couple years ago.
I think he can still be better and will be better next season, very promising.
 
Is it just me or does anyone else here think Herrera now is the player we hoped Cleverley would be? I thought Cleverley would reach Herrera's currently level when he had a good run of form couple years ago.

It's been said numerous times, I don't think anyone will disagree with you there.

He's a very similar player, only he's productive rather than shying away from responsibility.
 
Is it just me or does anyone else here think Herrera now is the player we hoped Cleverley would be? I thought Cleverley would reach Herrera's currently level when he had a good run of form couple years ago.
He does look similar at times, only difference with Herrera being twice the player Cleverley is :lol: Also think he will only get better, this guy could be phenomenal in two years time. I still remember that pre-season game against Galaxy, he was just taking the piss !
 
It's been said numerous times, I don't think anyone will disagree with you there.

He's a very similar player, only he's productive rather than shying away from responsibility.

Herrera has better technique on the ball though. Looks more assured and seems to have more time on the ball than Cleverley, who sometimes looked hurried and panicky in possession.
 
Is up there with Blind as signing of the summer. Bet nobody predicted that when our signings included Di Maria and Falcao :lol:
 
Is it just me or does anyone else here think Herrera now is the player we hoped Cleverley would be? I thought Cleverley would reach Herrera's currently level when he had a good run of form couple years ago.

We might have hoped. But aside for goal scoring perhaps, Cleverley never showed himself to have anything like the talent of Herrera.

Herrera has a much better touch, a better weight of passing, better creative passing i.e. splitting defenses; he is a better tackler and he has as better temperament for the top level.
 
Range is all that's missing from his locker now (long passing). Smalling's seemingly developed one this season, Herrera shouldn't have too much of a problem if he works on it.
 
Range is all that's missing from his locker now (long passing). Smalling's seemingly developed one this season, Herrera shouldn't have too much of a problem if he works on it.
I imagine that's purely as in Spain a long 30 yard pass would be looked down upon, or almost a cheat. He can do them but he lacks the control somebody like Scholes/Xabi Alonso/Rooney has when attempting it. No doubt with a bit of practice he could get that sorted.
 
How anyone can claim Herrera & Cleverley to be similar is beyond me.
Cleverley loved to hide and pass it sideways, Herrera had to be told and dropped to not show up for the ball all the freaking time and try to create something with hard through-balls.

I know what you mean, but you get the gist.
 
I imagine that's purely as in Spain a long 30 yard pass would be looked down upon, or almost a cheat. He can do them but he lacks the control somebody like Scholes/Xabi Alonso/Rooney has when attempting it. No doubt with a bit of practice he could get that sorted.

I think it's more to do with his role in the team. He's never really needed a long passing range as he's always played fairly high up the pitch. He had Javi Martinez behind for quite a while who always looks like a quality long range passer the times I've seen him. Thiago and Koke also have a terrific range from the current generation of Spaniards.
 
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