I seem to remember everyone on here panicing about his rib when it happened.
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You won't get any arguments from me about that.
Hasn't Van Gaal said that this is the formation he wants to play? Obviously he's been unable to play it recently due to most of our central defenders being injured!
Right. I think one thing is abundantly clear. Van Gaal doesn't rate Herrera as highly as most people on the caf.
Stop coming in here and throwing a grenade in the room.
Has he said that?
Stop coming in here and throwing a grenade in the room.
To be fair, there's been some sort of mass delusion in this thread for ages. That he was somehow just injured enough to make the bench but not to play. For two or three weeks in a row. Can we put that one to bed now?
I thought he did, I might be wrong!
Right after LVG made the comments after the WBA game about needing more physicality in midfield and all.
I remember people dismissing the 'Are Herrera and Shaw van Gaal signings?' thread.
Here's potentially why it was a question worth asking.
Here's potentially why it was a question worth asking.
I don't either. For me he doesn't have a specialist ability, goal threat, assister, ball winner, none really. Seems sloppy at times too. Hope he proves me wrong but puzzled how high the caf rates him.
I said it in the match thread and I will say it here:
6 Week lay off followed by 2 games in 4 days, the second game he was visibly fatigued and subbed off and you then expect Van Gaal to make it 3 games in 9 days?
Yeah, it's because he doesn't rate him despite his excellent contributions and is in no way related to trying to keep legs fresh leading into the Christmas period.
I don't think we need to read into this as if LVG doesn't rate Herrera.
We're playing 3-5-2 because both our full backs are injured. Fellaini has to play because of Wanyama. That means it's Mata or Herrera for one spot, and I'd certainly choose Mata for that role. The problem will be solved when Rafael and Shaw are back.
We're playing 3-5-2 because both our full backs are injured. Fellaini has to play because of Wanyama. That means it's Mata or Herrera for one spot, and I'd certainly choose Mata for that role. The problem will be solved when Rafael and Shaw are back.
I'd say that van Gaal thinks Herrera doesn't fit in currently. After all for van Gaal the team is more important the individual. He probably feels we need someone physical like Fellaini in the centre and he's not goind to drop Carrick or Blind entirely. Could all change with signing Strootman and moving to 4-3-3.
A lot of people were saying that too!
Southampton 1:2 Man Utd
Who said he "doesn't rate him"?
Not rating him and not rating him as highly as the fans are completely different things.
I'm sure he thinks he's a very good footballer. Doesn't mean he's necessarily his cup of tea though.
Remind me how many games Falcao has made the bench for but not been an option to start due to his fitness levels?
6 week layoff. Must be hard for him.
Remind me. How long has Carrick been out for? Or Ashley Young? And Rojo?
By the way, the length of "lay off" was mainly down to Van Gaal not playing him when he could. Compare and contrast with the others named above. Got fit. Got picked. Stayed in the team.
He's woefully out of shape. Different discussion though. Really hope Herrera is nowhere near as lacking in fitness as Falcao. Seriously doubt it.
Not saying he's shit, by the way. Also don't think Van Gaal thinks he's shit. Just that he's obviously not in the "Hererra must start" camp.
Yeah hes on now, better late than never
I'd say bringing him on after 40 minutes played is a fairly good indication of Van Gaal wanting him on the pitch.
And an excellent indication that your theory about him somehow not being fit enough to start this soon after the last game was a crock of shite.
Eh? There's a massive difference between playing half a game and playing a full game.
He already seems to have injected more urgency into our attacking.
Did more in 6 minutes than Mata, Rooney and Fellaini combined in 45.
Sad thing is, this is a fact. Mata shouldnt get in the team for a long time, as he doesnt offer half as much offensively as Herrera does.
In general play I certainly agree. However Mata has found the net plenty so he still has some value. But he's so much slower to pass the ball around and less active than Ander
Please please start him every fecking game!
The key link between defense, midfield and attack. Thank feck he is back.
Yeah, and tbf that's also important as Mata brings us goals.
Needs to start the next match Definately.
Been kind of crap tonight tbh.
One of many, obviously.
One of many, obviously.
Reading posts like this makes me think I watched a different game. And not for the first time.
Herrera was one of the few players tonight willing to take the ball under pressure, turn look up and do something, anything! The quality of our football improved immensely after his introduction. Can't see why he doesn't start more. Loved the way he bought us time with a bit of gamesmanship and rolling around at the end. P'd Southampton off something fierce, which I'm glad about after all their dirty tackles.
Look at the time I posted it, wasn't based on today game clearly
Oops. Apologies.
Was a bit shite tonight I thought, got about well enough but was pretty poor with the ball.
He should be in every starting lineup.
A midfielder who doesn't panic under pressure. I'd forgotten they existed till this kid came along.
A midfielder who doesn't panic under pressure. I'd forgotten they existed till this kid came along.
Let's not polish a turd. He was crap tonight. If we're gonna start praising our players for faking injury we're really scraping the barrel.
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