Analysis of Anthony Taylor’s positioning for the first two Liverpool goals from CBS America

Pogue Mahone said:
Diaz definitely gets the ball. You can see that clearly in one of the replays.
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Honestly i thought the same, and didn't even consider it. Rewatch the main replay, where casemiro is facing camera - its casemiros touch that moves the ball away, not diaz
 
Pundits ‘they have no passion and don’t run enough’

Fans ‘pundits know nothing’

Pundit ‘this thing people didn’t see may have impacted play’

Fans ‘pundits know nothing. That doesn’t matter’
 
sparx99 said:
Pundits ‘they have no passion and don’t run enough’

Fans ‘pundits know nothing’

Pundit ‘this thing people didn’t see may have impacted play’

Fans ‘pundits know nothing. That doesn’t matter’
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This is a great example of something casual fans might have missed and pundits bring up just to educate the public and add some context. I do think the guys delivery was a bit over the top which might have made his point less well received. Very fair to point out and use to criticize the ref I think.
 
Yes, 100%. We were so unlucky and lost because of Anthony Taylor's bad positioning. What if Anthony Taylor instead was in the way of Liverpool's build up to the 3 goals. Better still what if Antony Taylor accidentally blocked Diaz and Salah shots at goal. You know, the game could have been very different.
 
Yakuza_devils said:
Yes, 100%. We were so unlucky and lost because of Anthony Taylor's bad positioning. What if Anthony Taylor instead was in the way of Liverpool's build up to the 3 goals. Better still what if Antony Taylor accidentally blocked Diaz and Salah shots at goal. You know, the game could have been very different.
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Just imagine if Taylor got to the end of that cross that Zirkzee missed….
 
Desert Eagle said:
This is a great example of something casual fans might have missed and pundits bring up just to educate the public and add some context. I do think the guys delivery was a bit over the top which might have made his point less well received. Very fair to point out and use to criticize the ref I think.
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Pundit? The guy probably just watched his first football match and decided he'd figured out something no one else had ever thought of. Refs stand on the pitch.

In the list of ways in which incompetent refs affect games, standing in an inconvenient spot won't even make the top 10.

To be complaining about this. As Roy Keane would say - "what a baby".
 
Honestly have no idea how Americans watch this kind of presenter effort. It’s cringe as feck.

Then again, they have an odd culture around football. Those old videos of fans singing ‘The referees a w4nker’ at an odd cadence, outside the stadium before a game.

Odd bunch.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
Honestly have no idea how Americans watch this kind of presenter effort. It’s cringe as feck.

Then again, they have an odd culture around football. Those old videos of fans singing ‘The referees a w4nker’ at an odd cadence, outside the stadium before a game.

Odd bunch.
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Its not just football. Americans seem to love to watch a show. I have seen people buy costly tickets to a pre-season game, though they don't watch any soccer/football regularly, because a big hyped up brand like United, Real Madrid or Barcelona is coming to their city and they want to be there.

Waiting for and watching the ads during a Super Bowl is another phenomenon. Some people are more excited about the ad-break than the game.
 
RedDevil@84 said:
Its not just football. Americans seem to love to watch a show. I have seen people buy costly tickets to a pre-season game, though they don't watch any soccer/football regularly, because a big hyped up brand like United, Real Madrid or Barcelona is coming to their city and they want to be there.

Waiting for and watching the ads during a Super Bowl is another phenomenon. Some people are more excited about the ad-break than the game.
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Perhaps the worst thing about the clip was the relentless ‘We know United. They always want to pass the ball forward’. Renders every single point pointless.
 
Drainy said:
Put a little extra on it just to teach him a lesson
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This, the ref is part of the pitch. Just smash the pass the way you want and if he's in the way its a free kick anyway. Bonus points if you get him in the pods. They'll soon learn and keep a distance.
 
bstb3 said:
This, the ref is part of the pitch. Just smash the pass the way you want and if he's in the way its a free kick anyway. Bonus points if you get him in the pods. They'll soon learn and keep a distance.
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This might be relevant to the first incident but not the second. He was blocking Casemiro’s line of sight to the player in space 15 yards away. So he didn’t know he could play that pass, rather than worrying about playing that pass into Taylor.
 
Pexbo said:
This might be relevant to the first incident but not the second. He was blocking Casemiro’s line of sight to the player in space 15 yards away. So he didn’t know he could play that pass, rather than worrying about playing that pass into Taylor.
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I know what you mean, but the ref has to be somewhere. I suppose there is a case for smash it at him just in case, I'd support that (especially where Taylor is concerned), but players do need to be a bit adaptable for the conditions - getting caught on it was the worst possible outcome in the build up like that. Worst case play a ball into a channel or out at the far end of the pitch, don't get caught dawdling.
 
I dunno why people have to misread threads like these.

1. Liverpool deserved to win, United were rubbish, 3-0 was probably a good reflection of the game.
2. (In my opinion) on another day both the first and third goals are awarded free kicks to United for fouls on Casemiro (soft) and Mainoo (more clear imo). I'm kinda confused how MacAllister's shoulder into the back of Mainoo wasn't given a foul but w/e. And Anthony Taylor got in the way of Bruno's vision for the first goal (but probably happens so many times a game there's no real conspiracy there).

Both of these points can be factually correct, nobody is arguing United would have won. Just like city 0-3 last year, doesn't negate the fact their first goal was absolutegarbage.
 
Dr. T said:
I dunno why people have to misread threads like these.

1. Liverpool deserved to win, United were rubbish, 3-0 was probably a good reflection of the game.
2. (In my opinion) on another day both the first and third goals are awarded free kicks to United for fouls on Casemiro (soft) and Mainoo (more clear imo). I'm kinda confused how MacAllister's shoulder into the back of Mainoo wasn't given a foul but w/e. And Anthony Taylor got in the way of Bruno's vision for the first goal (but probably happens so many times a game there's no real conspiracy there).

Both of these points can be factually correct, nobody is arguing United would have won. Just like city 0-3 last year, doesn't negate the fact their first goal was absolutegarbage.
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Yeah but we don't like ten Hag now, so anything that dulls the blade at his throat is irrelevant
 
Dr. T said:
I dunno why people have to misread threads like these.

1. Liverpool deserved to win, United were rubbish, 3-0 was probably a good reflection of the game.
2. (In my opinion) on another day both the first and third goals are awarded free kicks to United for fouls on Casemiro (soft) and Mainoo (more clear imo). I'm kinda confused how MacAllister's shoulder into the back of Mainoo wasn't given a foul but w/e. And Anthony Taylor got in the way of Bruno's vision for the first goal (but probably happens so many times a game there's no real conspiracy there).

Both of these points can be factually correct, nobody is arguing United would have won. Just like city 0-3 last year, doesn't negate the fact their first goal was absolutegarbage.
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And you're just cherry picking moments from a loss in order to moan about things that happen in every match to every team. All three points can be factually correct.

If we are doing this particular positioning analysis for every game as some kind of a "Look how shite the refs are" segment, then I'm all for it. But that's not what's happening here.
 
erikcred said:
And you're just cherry picking moments from a loss in order to moan about things that happen in every match to every team. All three points can be factually correct.

If we are doing this particular positioning analysis for every game as some kind of a "Look how shite the refs are" segment, then I'm all for it. But that's not what's happening here.
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I mean - isn't that exactly what's happening here? This thread is specifically about Anthony Taylor's performance. There's a match thread on how shit we were, there's numerous threads on how shit ETH is.

Besides it's not exactly cherry picking if the moments I'm referring to occurred in the build up to goals.
 
Dr. T said:
I mean - isn't that exactly what's happening here? This thread is specifically about Anthony Taylor's performance. There's a match thread on how shit we were, there's numerous threads on how shit ETH is.

Besides it's not exactly cherry picking if the moments I'm referring to occurred in the build up to goals.
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I don't think so.

Unless we're also discussing the ref's positioning in our first two matches. Especially the one we won. Didn't see any posts on that.

This is just a thread to find another way to cope with a humiliation against our biggest rivals. And that's okay. If this forum is not the place for it, then I don't know what is.

Just seems silly to go "oh by the way on a totally unrelated note, look how badly the ref was positioned in these specific instances where we were disadvantaged, and no, I'm not interested in the ref's positioning during the rest of the game and whether the other team were affected".
 
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