No, there is actually a very simple explanation. First Mourinho wasn't liked by a large part of United fans and his football neither but more importantly we haven't played consistent good entertaining football for more than 5 years, half a decade, it's getting old.
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No, there is actually a very simple explanation. First Mourinho wasn't liked by a large part of United fans and his football neither but more importantly we haven't played consistent good entertaining football for more than 5 years, half a decade, it's getting old.
Then say it like that. So we can argue. A defender is not all about passing. He has other facets to his game which makes him 'not crap.' Hope you understand now.
Yeah it's definitely improved from Moyes and LVG's time, I think city being so far ahead of us and although we are second top 4 rivals are really close to us. And then there's the issue of the brand of football. Think we have a lot more glass is half empty fans. I think both sides have a point , it just needs to be less extreme.
Only just seen this. Fair play @Niall. Didn't expect a thread moaning about moaning to lead to this though 
Hopefully it will improve the quality of discussion and if certain posters don't want to post anymore because of it, well feck them.
Hopefully it will improve the quality of discussion and if certain posters don't want to post anymore because of it, well feck them.
That's the problem. Why stating the obvious? Its different with the likes of Herrera or even Mctominay (who might not be as good now but might improve). We're talking about a 28 year old something whose passing ability and football IQ border to that of a Championship football defender. Surely you don't need me explaining to you why he's crap. Id respect you far too much to explain you the obvious.
However I would (and did) explained to people why I don't think selling him is a good idea for the time being.
And yes passing the ball in a decent way is a pre-requisite in modern football. We're not in the 1950s.
You must be great to go to the match with...
Exactly. If it’s that obvious then why is it worth pointing out multiple times.
*narrows eyes*
I am, I can be emotional and happy and celebrate without acting like a kid and overexaggerating everything. As can 99% of this thread that are agreeing with these changes. You seem to be the odd one out.
He is actually.
Your far to patient.
They still don’t get it.
It’s no wonder posters who can’t understand a basic point or can’t be arsed to read and comprehend it are the ones who are similarly posting in a lazy and flippant manner.
That's cold, man.
I certainly have not misunderstood the announcement but my point was that santising discussion is not a healthy thing to do. The mods/forum people can do whatever they want but I don't have to agree. If I get banned, so be it. I am hardly going to lose sleep if I cannot go on the forum although I appreciate all the free stuff and I do try not to post what is deemed 'stupid' posts outside of match threads.
Also, the fact I got all these defensive replies to what I thought was a relatively balanced post disagreeing with the decision kind of proves my point.
No, what's knee jerk is the defensiveness of some of the replies. I am confident in my reading comprehension but I prefer to allow free discussion and arguments, even if they're not as insightful as some other posts :shrug:.
That's true and I do agree with people disliking this kind of thinking. But it doesn't mean it needs to be 'cleaned out'.
Again, the bolded's true but I prefer to get a good idea of the full spectrum of opinions, even if I disagree with them.
I don't have a clue what you're talking about and I generally appreciate your team's work for the forum but I don't like being intimidated into thinking in a set way. Do whatever you need to do.
You’re still going to get those opinions. It’s really not hard to understand.
Niall is such a [valued admin].
We should [praise him] as quickly as possible.
We should [praise him] as quickly as possible.
Jokes, Nick. Jokes.
I know we've said it for the past 4/5 seasons but we need to get on a game soon!
Ignoring the fact you don't seem understand using hyperbole for effect, why exactly is it a good thing to not lose yourself in the moment at a football match? Why is considered disappointment and being "happy" better than agony and ecstacy?
My post explaining why I think this is got deleted for being off topic.
Fair enough, but I think that trying to identify why stuff like this happens is actually quite interesting. Whatever, I completely support attempts to staunch the flow of vitriol!
Ha, yes absolutely! How easy are tickets to get hold of these days? I've not bought from the club for years, only ST's going free.
Fairly easy with a membership.
My brother tattoos one of the players so I can get free tickets for most home games so I'll have a word with him and see what I can do.
So if it's common knowledge why do you insist on stating the bleeding obvious? Forums are for discussion.
Fantastic!
You're a grown ass man, if that causes you agony then you need to reevaluate your life.
What gives you the impression that you possess such insight that your opinions are always correct and need no debating? For what it’s worth, I do not think Smalling is rubbish. He’s got his flaws, but he’s not rubbish. Do you possess no composure to the extent that the first thing that springs to your mind must be written down for all to see? You must have an incredibly high opinion of yourself if you think you add anything to a discussion or this forum by saying ‘Smalling is shite’. I saw you say earlier that your posts don’t have to add something. Well okay, don’t post then. Scream into a pillow or something.
Well, I tried a joke, then tried to engage and you've just slung insults at me each time. Have a nice evening.
Best lock the Brexit and Trump threads otherwise we'll lose half the forum!
You certainly have if you think this sanitises discussion.
Oh no I don't have such arrogance. Quite the contrary I consider myself being a meah poster myself mainly because Im too emotional and other things some mods know about which I want to keep personal. However even I can point out the obvious. Smalling is not good enough as much as the sky is blue, it tend to be cold in Aberdeen and it tend to hot in the Sahara desert. The very reason why a thread filled with very righteous reds are using him as a prime example should probably hint to that too.
Should we debate those as well (cold in Aberdeen, the sky is blue, its hot in the Sahara desert) or should I bring stats and arguments to support that too?
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and I do for most topics. But some things aren't even worth debating. Smalling being one of them. He's clearly not good enough as a first teamer. I mean how can a United player be deemed good enough since he lack football IQ and can't pass the ball. That's a must have at top club.
I do debate other things about him like for example I think we shouldn't sell him next season unless we've got a top defender in the bag on cheap
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You aren't the arbiter of what is and isn't worth debating.
@Niall, for match day threads, it's probably just a matter of generalizations...For example, "Smalling is a peace of shit" shouldn't fly but something like "Smalling was shit there", while not ideal would be acceptable, yes? Just trying to get the sentiment right
I'm pretty sure the match day thread is impossible to police - every time something important happens, you have about 3 pages of "YESSSS" or "FFS".
I'm definitely happy about the changes. Not so much that I hate the moaning, just the manner of it. It was becoming so tedious and started reading like twitter and facebook.
I'm definitely happy about the changes. Not so much that I hate the moaning, just the manner of it. It was becoming so tedious and started reading like twitter and facebook.
Sorry, it didn't come across as a joke. Especially with your first line of the sentence I quoted being an insult. My mistake.Ok lets debate whether the sahara desert is hot or not at a typical mid august day. I know its silly but as you said we are not the arbiters of what is and isnt worth debating
@Niall, for match day threads, it's probably just a matter of generalizations...For example, "Smalling is a peace of shit" shouldn't fly but something like "Smalling was shit there", while not ideal would be acceptable, yes? Just trying to get the sentiment right
Sounds about right.
It isn't saying that players are shit when they are actually shit, or controlling opinions, it's more about the quality of debate spilling into other threads from the match day thread. The match day thread is very leniently modded. The other threads are held to a higher standard, part of the problem is that people are knee-jerking their way through threads as games are being played and it's all detached from any semblance of reality.@Niall, for match day threads, it's probably just a matter of generalizations...For example, "Smalling is a peace of shit" shouldn't fly but something like "Smalling was shit there", while not ideal would be acceptable, yes? Just trying to get the sentiment right
I fully support this
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