That is not what has been said at all. Read my OP again. Hint: the key information is in bold.
An update on dealing with some of the excessive negativity on here
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That is not what has been said at all. Read my OP again. Hint: the key information is in bold.
We've no desire to be like Twitter or Facebook or the chat threads that run alongside some of the streaming channels. They can run quite happily without us.
We've got a problem, not with opinions, but with the equivalent of the clickbait screaming hysterical wording, and with posters who think if they shout loud enough, often enough, they're not only winning some bizarre argument, they're telling us something vitally important. They're not. They could do as all a favour and simply replace their posts with "look at me", at least other posters wouldn't then get distracted or angered into responding to them.
I don’t think anyone will have too many issues with well thought out and articulated constructive criticism it’s the tiresome and relentless posts like the examples in @Niall’s OP that anyone sane is sick to death of.
I had you on ignore for ages as your "contributions" to the matchday thread led me to believe you were not a United fan at all.
Doesn't surprise me that you feel this way about the recent change.
You are though.
The OP examples of what needs to stop:- "McTominay is an awful footballer" "He's such an awful player" "We're so shit" and "The manager is rubbish" tells me how heavily moderated the site is going to be.
I think you mods have been watching Demolition Man and trying to create the 'you have been fined one credit for a violation of the verbal morality statute' and the 'be well' world from that.
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Yeah it's more of an issue in the player performances forum. Match thread is bonkers but is to be expected really.
Another issue is multiple parallel threads which are devoted to bashing the same players or tactics, which are both unnecessary and make the forum look more negative in tone. I think if we can curb some of the hyperbole there will be more space for reasoned criticism. Right now if you have a middle-of-the-road view you can end up defending Jose more often than not simply because of how over the top some of the arguments are.
Imo match day threads should stay as they’re, who would want to engage into any reasonable conversations there anyway? The poeple that get offended by the content should avoid it full stop. How does one imagine someone writing essays during the actual football match, which is full of emotions?
After the game is finished though, I fully support the idea of clapping down on one liners for it not to spread out across the board. To be fair I thought this was already in place so nothing changes much in the grand scheme of things.
After the game is finished though, I fully support the idea of clapping down on one liners for it not to spread out across the board. To be fair I thought this was already in place so nothing changes much in the grand scheme of things.
I think you haven’t got a clue what you’re on about.
It pretty much is staying the same. Just hopefully with less of the totally hysterical posts I've given examples of in my OP. We're not asking for essays in those threads, nowhere is that mentioned.
Your lack of reading comprehension disturbs me greatly.
To be fair, the manager is rubbish
Yes, those are out of order even for match day thread I guess. Hopefully, it just doesn’t turn into slippery slope when it comes to match day threads and I don’t even care as I rarely get involved, just my opinion really!
devilish hasn't had anything positive to say about United or any of it's players for more than 15 years on this site, now wonder he's concerned.
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Agree on the latter. A possible issue is that some people are making threads that could very easily be posted in other threads.
The "we won't win anything with Pogba" (although I think it was a parody - or was that Lukaku?) thread being an example. So what you've got is a lot of pissed off people making negative threads that eventually stack up and add to the perceived negativity, even if the content is a well written, fairly valid point.
I know we say no to megathreads, but the possible downside to that is the desire to be heard, which lends itself to a volume of negative OPs, especially after a loss. You can't really combat that, though. But combating the stupid posts like "he's a Championship footballer" is definitely a good step to take.
eff offGreat news. I've never understood that type of fan. Emotions running high seems like a poor excuse to post relentless drivel.
Good change, as long as it doesn't go much further in the future, "Acceptable opinions/posts" hive mind etc...
How are you not getting this? There's going to no policing of opinion, it's the way you express it that will be looked at.
Calling a player a cnut or spamming statements like "League 2 standard" isn't going to be tolerated, but a well thought out, reasoned post is perfectly acceptable.
Yeah, about time.
Because calling Smalling or any other player crap is your judgment, it hasn't come from Mount Olympus. This is a discussion forum. We are not interested in your 'crap' judgment, but rather how you arrived at it, so that further discussions can ensue. Simple to understand, no?
Adults are capable of controlling their emotions and not going to such stupid extremes over something so small, relatively speaking.
Let me torch Smalling with an example that (probably) won’t lead to a warning.
“Smalling was atrocious in the build up to that goal. His ball watching literally cost us the fecking game and it makes me want to pull my hair out when I see it. He had his potential when SAF was still here but he’s not stepped up to be reliable and needs to be upgraded on. I’d personally like to see him sold but I’ll take having him as a squad option if we can’t fond the depth.”
Idk, sounds pretty angry to me, but not a completely shit post. Hope that helps those who are somehow confused about this.
“Smalling was atrocious in the build up to that goal. His ball watching literally cost us the fecking game and it makes me want to pull my hair out when I see it. He had his potential when SAF was still here but he’s not stepped up to be reliable and needs to be upgraded on. I’d personally like to see him sold but I’ll take having him as a squad option if we can’t fond the depth.”
Idk, sounds pretty angry to me, but not a completely shit post. Hope that helps those who are somehow confused about this.
By the way, where does the Mr Bobbins rant fall on this scale?
Can I still make stupid jokes and exaggerate a little bit?
Who are you speaking to?
Who are you speaking to?
Well done mods.
Completely support this move.
Completely support this move.
Absolutely makes sense. Will require some discerning implementation but I’m up for it!
I think you mean "the moderation won't be to my liking". That's something quite different to a "heavily-moderated" site.
To be fair you are right - with the exception of all of them except the last one - and that was heat of the moment. I didnt actually mean it despite people dining out on it.
This site is not heavily moderated, and moderation of opinions is not the issue at hand. But if you feel aggrieved at not being able to spout pointless negative drivel then perhaps you should go elsewhere.
If you want to say that McTomnay is shit, then fecking say why he's shit. How hard is it to understand? Or do you just enjoying moaning for the sake of it?
You really need that? Don't you have eyes to see the obvious?
This thread has really got me thinking. Specifically, it's got me thinking 'Do modmins look like moomins?'
Yes, need that. And no, it's not obvious.
Maybe you can convince the mods to permanently ban them
Seriously? Don' t you think a united player need to know how to pass the ball?
Do you need me to explain to you why moyes and lvg were crap for us too?
Good move.
It is interesting how troubled times on the pitch seeps down through fans down to Internet forums.
I remember joining the forum to get some comfort from fellow United fans during the end of Moyes time, but it was all so depressing, so all I’ve known is the whining and moaning on here. Let’s hope things can improve on the pitch as well as some positivity on here.
It is interesting how troubled times on the pitch seeps down through fans down to Internet forums.
I remember joining the forum to get some comfort from fellow United fans during the end of Moyes time, but it was all so depressing, so all I’ve known is the whining and moaning on here
. Let’s hope things can improve on the pitch as well as some positivity on here.Good move.
It is interesting how troubled times on the pitch seeps down through fans down to Internet forums.
I remember joining the forum to get some comfort from fellow United fans during the end of Moyes time, but it was all so depressing, so all I’ve known is the whining and moaning on here
At least during Moyes' reign we had plenty of reason to be depressed. As is we're 2nd in the league, favourites to go through to the next round of the CL and just off the back of a win against one of our main rivals. Relatively, things are going well. Kinda weird that the football forums are still so negative. Maybe Moyes broke us.
Yeah but Coco is a great film.
Thank you for doing this!
I don't go to the match day thread often anymore, personally I find it hard to read and watch a game at the same time. About the only time I go in there is when there is a controversial call and I want to see what others are thinking. For the most part I think it should be left the free-for-all it is, I agree with the comparison of hearing the same thing at a bar or with any group watching the game live. And, I can avoid REALLY easily if I want.
The rest doesn't seem like that much of an ask. But, I think there are a lot of posters that are really just looking to pick a fight and you're taking away their jab(s). That, and several that I think are just trying to get a rise out of people. It amazes me how often I will think x and y played well, only to come see that "they were shyte" according to others. Which is fine, but doesn't help me with understanding something I may have missed or what the player was lacking that I overlooked.
Anyways, I really appreciate the effort in cleaning things up, I found myself coming here less and less often because of the overwhelming negativity.
I don't go to the match day thread often anymore, personally I find it hard to read and watch a game at the same time. About the only time I go in there is when there is a controversial call and I want to see what others are thinking. For the most part I think it should be left the free-for-all it is, I agree with the comparison of hearing the same thing at a bar or with any group watching the game live. And, I can avoid REALLY easily if I want.
The rest doesn't seem like that much of an ask. But, I think there are a lot of posters that are really just looking to pick a fight and you're taking away their jab(s).
That, and several that I think are just trying to get a rise out of people. It amazes me how often I will think x and y played well, only to come see that "they were shyte" according to others. Which is fine, but doesn't help me with understanding something I may have missed or what the player was lacking that I overlooked. Anyways, I really appreciate the effort in cleaning things up, I found myself coming here less and less often because of the overwhelming negativity.
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