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Well since Rubio is Latino and Bush's wife and son are Latino, I'm fairly sure they would cut into any advantage the Dems have with Latino voters, especially since both of them seem to have departed from the Republican position on immigration. Women voters would obviously go for Hillary, but again, it would be split along party lines. Republican women aren't going to switch allegiances just because Hillary is female.

Yeah I think you over estimate Rubios pull with Latinos. All the mexicans and latinos I know despise him and the GOP in general. He probably would pull the cuban vote in florida but thats pretty much it.
 
Yeah I think you over estimate Rubios pull with Latinos. All the mexicans and latinos I know despise him and the GOP in general. He probably would pull the cuban vote in florida but thats pretty much it.

That might be the case now because of immigration, but wait till he comes out with a few Spanish commercials. They will love him.
 
That might be the case now because of immigration, but wait till he comes out with a few Spanish commercials. They will love him.

Yeah no they arent impressed with some schmuck who can speak to them in their own lingo on a commercial

Two interesting articles here

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...30_1_marco-rubio-romney-candidacy-immigration

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...30_1_marco-rubio-romney-candidacy-immigration

Its all moot anyway because the Grand Old White Party would want a Cuban as its president.
 
Yeah no they arent impressed with some schmuck who can speak to them in their own lingo on a commercial

Two interesting articles here

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...30_1_marco-rubio-romney-candidacy-immigration

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...30_1_marco-rubio-romney-candidacy-immigration

Its all moot anyway because the Grand Old White Party would want a Cuban as its president.

Well they have two Cubans (Rubio and Cruz) who will almost certainly be in the running. If the GOP wants to win they will go with a moderate like Romney or Bush, rather than Paul or Cruz.
 
Surely there is just about zero chance Romney could win after losing last time? It was against Obama, sure, but that Obama had lost a lot of his shine. And as was mentioned, that was running on the basis of a struggling economy, which Obama had presided over.
 
Surely there is just about zero chance Romney could win after losing last time? It was against Obama, sure, but that Obama had lost a lot of his shine. And as was mentioned, that was running on the basis of a struggling economy, which Obama had presided over.

I reckon he's got a decent chance of getting the nomination if he runs. Not sure about winning, but then again, there aren't any guanratees for the Democrats either.
 
Good look inside the American right wing mind when it comes to the world cup and "soccer" in general by their favorite political pundit, Ann Coulter.

AMERICA'S FAVORITE NATIONAL PASTIME: HATING SOCCER
June 25, 2014



I've held off on writing about soccer for a decade -- or about the length of the average soccer game -- so as not to offend anyone. But enough is enough. Any growing interest in soccer can only be a sign of the nation's moral decay.


(1) Individual achievement is not a big factor in soccer. In a real sport, players fumble passes, throw bricks and drop fly balls -- all in front of a crowd. When baseball players strike out, they're standing alone at the plate. But there's also individual glory in home runs, touchdowns and slam-dunks.


In soccer, the blame is dispersed and almost no one scores anyway. There are no heroes, no losers, no accountability, and no child's fragile self-esteem is bruised. There's a reason perpetually alarmed women are called "soccer moms," not "football moms."


Do they even have MVPs in soccer? Everyone just runs up and down the field and, every once in a while, a ball accidentally goes in. That's when we're supposed to go wild. I'm already asleep.


(2) Liberal moms like soccer because it's a sport in which athletic talent finds so little expression that girls can play with boys. No serious sport is co-ed, even at the kindergarten level.


(3) No other "sport" ends in as many scoreless ties as soccer. This was an actual marquee sign by the freeway in Long Beach, California, about a World Cup game last week: "2nd period, 11 minutes left, score: 0:0." Two hours later, another World Cup game was on the same screen: "1st period, 8 minutes left, score: 0:0." If Michael Jackson had treated his chronic insomnia with a tape of Argentina vs. Brazil instead of Propofol, he'd still be alive, although bored.


Even in football, by which I mean football, there are very few scoreless ties -- and it's a lot harder to score when a half-dozen 300-pound bruisers are trying to crush you.


(4) The prospect of either personal humiliation or major injury is required to count as a sport. Most sports are sublimated warfare. As Lady Thatcher reportedly said after Germany had beaten England in some major soccer game: Don't worry. After all, twice in this century we beat them at their national game.



Baseball and basketball present a constant threat of personal disgrace. In hockey, there are three or four fights a game -- and it's not a stroll on beach to be on ice with a puck flying around at 100 miles per hour. After a football game, ambulances carry off the wounded. After a soccer game, every player gets a ribbon and a juice box.


(5) You can't use your hands in soccer. (Thus eliminating the danger of having to catch a fly ball.) What sets man apart from the lesser beasts, besides a soul, is that we have opposable thumbs. Our hands can hold things. Here's a great idea: Let's create a game where you're not allowed to use them!


(6) I resent the force-fed aspect of soccer. The same people trying to push soccer on Americans are the ones demanding that we love HBO's "Girls," light-rail, Beyonce and Hillary Clinton. The number of New York Times articles claiming soccer is "catching on" is exceeded only by the ones pretending women's basketball is fascinating.


I note that we don't have to be endlessly told how exciting football is.


(7) It's foreign. In fact, that's the precise reason the Times is constantly hectoring Americans to love soccer. One group of sports fans with whom soccer is not "catching on" at all, is African-Americans. They remain distinctly unimpressed by the fact that the French like it.


(8) Soccer is like the metric system, which liberals also adore because it's European. Naturally, the metric system emerged from the French Revolution, during the brief intervals when they weren't committing mass murder by guillotine.


Despite being subjected to Chinese-style brainwashing in the public schools to use centimeters and Celsius, ask any American for the temperature, and he'll say something like "70 degrees." Ask how far Boston is from New York City, he'll say it's about 200 miles.


Liberals get angry and tell us that the metric system is more "rational" than the measurements everyone understands. This is ridiculous. An inch is the width of a man's thumb, a foot the length of his foot, a yard the length of his belt. That's easy to visualize. How do you visualize 147.2 centimeters?


(9) Soccer is not "catching on." Headlines this week proclaimed "Record U.S. ratings for World Cup," and we had to hear -- again -- about the "growing popularity of soccer in the United States."


The USA-Portugal game was the blockbuster match, garnering 18.2 million viewers on ESPN. This beat the second-most watched soccer game ever: The 1999 Women's World Cup final (USA vs. China) on ABC. (In soccer, the women's games are as thrilling as the men's.)


Run-of-the-mill, regular-season Sunday Night Football games average more than 20 million viewers; NFL playoff games get 30 to 40 million viewers; and this year's Super Bowl had 111.5 million viewers.



Remember when the media tried to foist British soccer star David Beckham and his permanently camera-ready wife on us a few years ago? Their arrival in America was heralded with 24-7 news coverage. That lasted about two days. Ratings tanked. No one cared.


If more "Americans" are watching soccer today, it's only because of the demographic switch effected by Teddy Kennedy's 1965 immigration law. I promise you: No American whose great-grandfather was born here is watching soccer. One can only hope that, in addition to learning English, these new Americans will drop their soccer fetish with time.
 
She's just trolling for attention to sell her books, articles etc.

Undoubtaly so, but there are donkey loads of Americans who think just like that - a bunch of foreign Euro/Latino ponces diving about, boring one - nil games all the time, no manly contact, not a game for "real" Americans, soccer moms sitting in their portable fold up chairs, huge young girl leagues without competitive edges etc etc etc. There is definitely a certain sector of the USA who loathes "soccer" and what it stands for, which I think Ms. Coulter elaborates on quite well, albeit with a slight mean spirited, misinformed exaggeration.
 
Based on reactions she's coming off looking like a fool, which will only grow if the US advance further.
 
A centrist third party? :lol:

To most Europeans, the Dems would be considered pretty right wing :lol:
I know this is often said, but is it true? They're (largely) pro-government, pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-regulation, pro-union, pro-cultural pluralism, pro-progressive taxing, pro-renewable energy, pro-recognition of climate change, pro-welfare, anti-gun, anti-torture, anti-church/state connection. Now you can obviously argue how effective they've been on some of those when in power, but that's largely what their base is and what their stated beliefs are. I'd say they'd be centre-left in most European countries.
 
I know this is often said, but is it true? They're (largely) pro-government, pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-regulation, pro-union, pro-cultural pluralism, pro-progressive taxing, pro-renewable energy, pro-recognition of climate change, pro-welfare, anti-gun, anti-torture, anti-church/state connection. Now you can obviously argue how effective they've been on some of those when in power, but that's largely what their base is and what their stated beliefs are. I'd say they'd be centre-left in most European countries.

Most of these things aren't what we'd (UK) use to classify left or right wing, though. All our major parties are, comparatively "pro" these things, really. The economic policies and the fact things like abortion are even considered a political issue are why we'd consider them more right wing. The entire US social set up (taxation, welfare, healthcare etc) is, from the outside, much less socialist than ours, even under the "left wing" party. That's why we always say it. They're working with a more right wing electorate though, and a more right wing set of policies. If they inherited an NHS or an electorate more open to socialist reforms they may well have come across more lefty over here. You've got to play to your audience though, unfortunately.
 
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Are the Dems really anti-gun though? If you've got Joe Biden telling everyone to go out and buy a shotgun, it's hard to believe the party truly is anti-gun. I mean they are saner compared to the Republicans on the matter but I doubt they truly are anti-guns in the same way as liberals really would like them to be,
 
I'd say they are pragmatic and compromising than their European counterparts.

I may be wrong, @Eboue confirm

I don't have enough knowledge of domestic politics abroad to really say but I do find it incredibly tiresome to Europeans who constantly talk about how right wing the Democrats are, often replete with green smilies, as if the entire world revolves around Europe.
 
Not only does the Supreme Court believe that corporations are people, they believe that they can be religious people. Can corporations go to Heaven?
 
I saw a good comment elsewhere.

"I'll believe that corporations are people when Texas executes one"

John Oliver? He did a segment yesterday on corporations I believe. He also said, if a Corporation has to be treated as a person, they should have the lifetime of a person and be dead after :lol:
 
Not only does the Supreme Court believe that corporations are people, they believe that they can be religious people. Can corporations go to Heaven?

Who's next to kick the bucket on the conservative bench? The country desperately needs a reasonable majority in the Supreme Court.
 
I've always thought a good idea for a movie or maybe the next season of 24 was somebody assassinating a Supreme to change the balance of the court.
 
Who's next to kick the bucket on the conservative bench? The country desperately needs a reasonable majority in the Supreme Court.
Ages:

Conservatives:
Roberts (chief justice) - 59, Scalia - 78, Kennedy - 77, Thomas - 66, Alito - 64

Liberals:
Ginsberg - 81, Breyer - 75, Sotomayor - 60, Kagan - 54

Next election is huge. If, as I reckon, Hillary wins (and then wins again), there could be a liberal majority for decades to come.
 
Yep, Ginsburg and Kennedy will probably retire in the next cycle. I can see Scalia hanging on until death though.
 
Oh god can you imagine the confirmation hearings if the balance of the court is at stake!

Yeah it would be contentious, although there's a decent chance Ginsburg will be next to retire which will make Obama's selection a bit easier. Kennedy as the "swing vote" will be massive.
 
Yeah it would be contentious, although there's a decent chance Ginsburg will be next to retire which will make Obama's selection a bit easier. Kennedy as the "swing vote" will be massive.
Nobody will retire under Obama. Conservatives will stay on hoping they win in 2016, and Ginsburg has repeatedly said she won't.
 
Nobody will retire under Obama. Conservatives will stay on hoping they win in 2016, and Ginsburg has repeatedly said she won't.

Although if Conservatives fail in 16, I can see someone like Kennedy going (along with Ginsburg and Breyer). All the Dems need is one Republican to drop off.
 
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