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Christie is amenable to some gun control is that not so?

Bearing in mind NJ's links to Sandy Hook via the Lanza family, how likely is it that he could make for a helpful ally to Obama were he to pursue reforms in the future? Or would his hopes for 2016 count against such a move?
 
Pretty incredible stuff:

Inouye stood up to attack and was shot in the stomach; ignoring his wound, he proceeded to attack and destroy the first machine gun nest with hand grenades and fire from his Thompson submachine gun.

As he raised himself up and cocked his arm to throw his last grenade into the fighting position, a German inside fired a rifle grenade that struck him on the right elbow, severing most of his arm and leaving his own primed grenade reflexively "clenched in a fist that suddenly didn't belong to me anymore".

Inouye's horrified soldiers moved to his aid, but he shouted for them to keep back out of fear his severed fist would involuntarily relax and drop the grenade. As the German inside the bunker reloaded his rifle, Inouye pried the live grenade from his useless right hand and transferred it to his left. As the German aimed his rifle to finish him off, Inouye tossed the grenade off-hand into the bunker and destroyed it.

He stumbled to his feet and continued forward, silencing the last German resistance with a one-handed burst from his Thompson before being wounded in the leg and tumbling unconscious to the bottom of the ridge. When he awoke to see the concerned men of his platoon hovering over him, his only comment before being carried away was to gruffly order them to return to their positions, since, as he pointed out, "nobody called off the war!"
 
I'm massively confused by what House Republicans are doing. Boehner just presented them with a Plan B in which they kept the Bush tax cuts for all but earners over a MILLION. They seem to have rejected it.

Is this just media game-playing, or are they genuinely too stupid to understand what's going to happen in January?

Or... another possibility... are they actually happy enough for Obama to get what he wants and tax everyone over 250K, so long as they don't actually have to VOTE for a tax rise?
 
I think they're just ideologues rather than pragmatists no?
 
Or they're terrified of the Tea Party and getting primaried. Which I guess comes to the same thing. These days all Republicans run to the right, of everyone. If you come out saying you're anti-abortion even in the case of rape, someone will run against you on the basis that you believe God allows rape.
 
I'm massively confused by what House Republicans are doing. Boehner just presented them with a Plan B in which they kept the Bush tax cuts for all but earners over a MILLION. They seem to have rejected it.

Is this just media game-playing, or are they genuinely too stupid to understand what's going to happen in January?

Or... another possibility... are they actually happy enough for Obama to get what he wants and tax everyone over 250K, so long as they don't actually have to VOTE for a tax rise?

I'm certainly ignorant on the details so sorry for that but isn't this a problem for both sides? From some of the things I've seen on this proposal is that it is essentially the same plan proposed by Nancy Pelosi not all that long ago. Now Reid is saying it's dead on arrival in the Senate. Is that just because it's being proffered by a repub?The repubs are splintered and still crumbling after the election so this will only continue to hurt them. I don't think either side really wants to get this done.
 
As I understand it (not very well), it's not that it's been proposed by the Repubs. It's that when the Dems considered it, it was when they'd just lost the mid-terms, were politically weak and desperately needed a deal.

Boehner is floating this idea as a wedge to see if he can split them, but this time they've just won an election, and they can get all the revenue the could ever need just by sitting on their arses for a couple of weeks.

It's true that going over the cliff isn't THAT great for dems, as it means they won't be able to extend unemployment benefits or get new infrastructure revenue. (Or extend the payroll tax cut, but that's probably fecked either way.) They'd like a deal, and being Dems they'll probably take a terrible deal. But no deal surely beats the crap out of accepting extending the Bush tax cuts for everyone up to millionaires!

EDIT: Boehner's plan wouldn't just cut taxes on the rich... it would actually increase them on the poor!
 
That's the other thing. I'm more and more suspecting that much of the edifice of the right in the US is a shell game.

Karl Rove's gang got out with 80 million of donors' money in the last election. 80 million! Who cares whether he looked an arse on TV?
 
Or they're terrified of the Tea Party and getting primaried. Which I guess comes to the same thing. These days all Republicans run to the right, of everyone. If you come out saying you're anti-abortion even in the case of rape, someone will run against you on the basis that you believe God allows rape.

It is God's will, ya know.
 
That's the other thing. I'm more and more suspecting that much of the edifice of the right in the US is a shell game.

Karl Rove's gang got out with 80 million of donors' money in the last election. 80 million! Who cares whether he looked an arse on TV?

Probably a good thing it wasn't the sort of billionaire with a shady past like any of those Russian oligarchs or Rove may mysteriously disapper like Hoffa or turn up dead in a large trashbin in Cleveland.

If he just made off with $80m profit that involved some of my millions for a guaranteed GOP victory, I'd consider some sort of retribution. These billionaires aren't exactly the pushover types and they crave power.
 
Or, you know, they might be bought and paid for by billionaires and companies, and simply protecting those interests behind a mask of ideology.

was it ever anything but?
which makes all those middles class and working class tea party supporters look even more stupid, if that's even possible.
 
The repubs have suffered an embarrassing, self-inflicted defeat of their own alternative tax plan! They can't even agree among themselves to come up with a plan for the Senate to throw out or for the President to veto.

Boehner has no choice now but to take the dems plan since it's clear the loony side of his party doesn't support him. What a crazy state of affairs.
 
The repubs have suffered an embarrassing, self-inflicted defeat of their own alternative tax plan! They can't even agree among themselves to come up with a plan for the Senate to throw out or for the President to veto.

Boehner has no choice now but to take the dems plan since it's clear the loony side of his party doesn't support him. What a crazy state of affairs.

it is great to see the GOP destroy itself....unfortunately they are going to tank the economy too.

2014 looks good for the Dems though.
 
Kerry appointed as Secretary of state. Interesting choice, probably not the best for India here though.
 
If that taped interview proposing to financially and editorially back a person to run for presidency had been attempted by a FNC rival (like say CNN, NBC or MSNBC), you can bet your house FNC would be all over it citing proof of media liberal bias, corruption by the left, and demanding an investigation and various charges.

The Guardian's editorial on this topic was quite good.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/20/bernstein-murdoch-ailes-petreaus-presidency
 
It's utterly dysfunctional in Washington right now. Crazy how a major country can be run in such a way.
 
Its the Republican party that is crazy right now. Many of the 'moderate' republicans are afraid to be 'primaried'. It will go off the cliff I think. They will then vote for a tax reduction for 98% of the population.

The unemployment is the issue.
 
To be fair he's spot on there, even if he made a giant ass of himself (as usual) when he had on the gun lobbyist.
 
Judging by the comments and ratings, it seems like the right wing American nuts have flocked to that article like scousers to a poll.
 
Its the Republican party that is crazy right now. Many of the 'moderate' republicans are afraid to be 'primaried'. It will go off the cliff I think. They will then vote for a tax reduction for 98% of the population.

The unemployment is the issue.

The economy won't fall off the 'cliff'' overnight, they will just extend the talks until the dick measuring competition ends.
 
It's a pretty well-written piece but, given his track record, I find it hard to believe that Morgan has a great deal of empathy. Give him a big enough fee, and he'd probably be pimping guns on national tv.
 
So it looks like they've reached a rushed out deal for the sake of reaching a deal before the deadline with the Dems caving in.

And it'll probably look something like this. -

Ezra Klein via Calculated Risk -
http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2012/12/fiscal-cliff-deal.html
"1. Details on the deal: 39.6% tax rate for individual income over 400k/family income over $450k. AMT patched permanently.

2. Dividends and cap gains taxes at 20% of the $400k/$450k levels. PEP at $250k. Pease at $300k.

3. UI and business cuts extended through 2013. Stimulus cuts for 5 years. Medicare cuts stopped with offsets. Payroll cut expires.

4. Sequester unclear. Prez wants to offset with taxes and spending cuts. R's only want to offset with spending cuts.

Updates:
5. Estate tax set at $10m exemption but 40% rate.

6. Deal raises about $600b -- and maybe a bit more -- in taxes over 10 years. As always details can change, but that's where it is now.


Two reactions worth reading in my opinion -
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/31/the-worlds-worst-poker-player/
http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/12/31/the-global-cost-of-fiscal-indecision/
 
A deal is likely to be missed by the deadline, so its looking likely that its going off the cliff.
 
for the GOP it is about getting everything they want...feck the country.

For the rest of us it is about the country....its not everything the Democrats would have wanted but its a good deal overall for the country.

That is why the Republican party is a shambles.
 
http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2...-go-away-mad-112th-congress-just-go-away?lite

A curious thing happened on the House floor this morning. No work was scheduled, but the House nevertheless went back into session at 11 a.m. -- just one hour before the new Congress is required to begin. It wasn't clear why.

Maybe GOP leaders changed their mind on Hurricane Sandy relief and planned a vote literally at the 11th hour? Alas, no. It turns out the House never got around to agreeing to a "formal adjournment resolution that both chambers signed off on." This morning's session was making the end of the 112th Congress official.

As Roll Call put it, "What a perfect coda for the most contentious, fired-up, hard-to-please Congress in recent memory. They couldn't even formally agree on when to end things."

And so, as we congratulate the start of the 113th Congress, let's also pause to note that the 112th was so spectacularly bad, it's earned a special place in the history books. Ezra Klein wrote today, "Good riddance to rottenest Congress in history."

What's the record of the 112th Congress? Well, it almost shut down the government and almost breached the debt ceiling. It almost went over the fiscal cliff (which it had designed in the first place). It cut a trillion dollars of discretionary spending in the Budget Control Act and scheduled another trillion in spending cuts through an automatic sequester, which everyone agrees is terrible policy. It achieved nothing of note on housing, energy, stimulus, immigration, guns, tax reform, infrastructure, climate change or, really, anything. It's hard to identify a single significant problem that existed prior to the 112th Congress that was in any way improved by its two years of rule.

I mentioned back in July that Matt Taibbi wrote a terrific piece for Rolling Stone in October 2006 about the Republican-led Congress in power at the time. He painted an unsettling picture of what he called the "Worst Congress Ever."

"These were the years," Taibbi wrote, "when the U.S. parliament became a historical punch line, a political obscenity on par with the court of Nero or Caligula -- a stable of thieves and perverts who committed crimes rolling out of bed in the morning and did their very best to turn the mighty American empire into a debt-laden, despotic backwater, a Burkina Faso with cable."

The article included this classic quote from Jonathan Turley: "The 109th Congress is so bad that it makes you wonder if democracy is a failed experiment."

And I'm reasonably certain the 112th made the 109th look sensible, responsible, and mature.

The Congress that ended less than an hour ago didn't legislate, couldn't complete basic tasks, saw its public support drop to the lowest point since the dawn of modern polling, and undermined the national economy more than once.

To reiterate a point we've discussed before, it's worth noting one of the consequences of having a Congress this abysmal is the extent to which it shapes our expectations. I felt great relief on several occasions over the last two years when lawmakers managed to avoid government shutdowns that lawmakers themselves had threatened -- which was depressing, since I really shouldn't have been impressed when the legislative branch of the United States government manages, just barely, to keep its own lights on.

We've internalized absurd standards. We simply assume as a matter of course that important policymaking is impossible, and we celebrate legislative moves that, in the recent past, were routine and unremarkable.

When voters headed to the polls in the 2010 midterms, they elected some of the most manifestly unqualified policymakers in a generation, and the result was a Congress that was hard to watch without covering your eyes.

So long, 112th. You won't be missed.
 
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