[Berbaclass]

What play style does their manager prefer? Would Amad fit there?

I watched his Blackburn side a handful of times and they were a good attacking team. Think it will be good for him.

 

[ThanksBoss26]

Mowbray was Blackburn manager when Elliott went there from Liverpool and did well. Think he had a couple of other loan successes as well.

 

[flappyjay]

Should go two years to Dortmund.

This lad needs games, we turned down Sheffield United last year where he would have gotten much needed game time. If he goes to Sunderland injuries permitting he could get upto 40 games, that's more than he has played so far in his career.

 

[Mainoldo]

The guy that use to manage West Brom. Are they taking the pi££. He’s as defensive as they come.

 

[Alemar]

So some guys say he is an attacking manager, others think he is as defensive as it gets…

 

[AFC NimbleThumb]

Feel for this lad. Was bought with absolutely 0 plans in place by the club.

 

[Adnan]

So some guys say he is an attacking manager, others think he is as defensive as it gets…

It depends on the players he has at his disposal. He's utilised a possession based attacking play style where his team was averaging 57% possession and he's also reverted to playing on the counter attack. It all depends on the players you have.

 

[Tiber]

Should go two years to Dortmund.

Can't get off the bench in Scotland nevermind Dortmund

 

[Adnan]

Seems like Sunderland are recruiting a number of young French speaking players which can only help Amad settle into his new surroundings.

 

[Ayoba]

So much hype around this fella but I just don't see it. I would be astounded if he makes it here

 

[BluesJr]

The guy that use to manage West Brom. Are they taking the pi££. He’s as defensive as they come.

Tell me you know absolutely nothing about that manager without telling me you know absolutely nothing.

 

[Bastian]

Seems like Sunderland are recruiting a number of young French speaking players which can only help Amad settle into his new surroundings.

My first thoughts when reading about the loan was "they don't even have a manager, are we trying to sabotage his career" but this makes a bit more sense now. It really has to be a great move for him at this stage of his development.

 

[Bastian]

Reassuring.

 

[dr.twinny]

Are Sunderland in the Championship?

 

[Red the Bear]

Was hoping he'd end up someplace better , oh well.

Wish him the best , he certainly has the talent and seems to be a nice kid.

 

[Drainy]

Are Sunderland in the Championship?

Yes. Currently midtable

 

[Alvaro Maestre]

Sell him to Leeds

 

[Ali Dia]

I think he will light up the championship if he can stay fit and become more aggressive.

 

[sglowrider]

Amad is really small and weak, but Elanga is also a piss take, couple of times he tried to get past a player over the weekend and he was brushed aside like a feather. Amad in comparison goes into more duels and is more evident how weak he is.

Antony is 1cm taller than Amad according to google.

 

[sglowrider]

I think he will light up the championship if he can stay fit and become more aggressive.

Watching him play at Rangers I always got the feeling that he was on a different wavelength to the rest of the players. Once he had the ball, the other players didn't seem to know what his next move was or they were running in straight lines or static in other times.

He has a different rhythm when he was in the U23s. Hannibal, Shola etc would have anticipated his next move and moved into the spaces.

 

[jem]

That’s good. Hopefully impresses and he gets a permanent move.

Any reason for giving up on him? Ideally he’d have a productive loan spell and return to United ready to contribute

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Really hope he kick starts his career again. After all that initially hype and the huge fee nothing seems to have clicked for Amad despite him seeming to be very talented.

 

[Solius]

Any reason for giving up on him? Ideally he’d have a productive loan spell and return to United ready to contribute

I just don’t really see it. There’s nothing about his game that screams top level.

 

[Drainy]

Amad still is quite slight, though surprisingly strong for his size. Its hard to write him off at the moment but he needs football now.

 

[avgp_1]

It won't be an easy loan. They have Patrick Roberts and Clarke as their wingers and that's not where they struggle. Pritchard is their best players so even #10 position is not available. Could be used across the front 4 so probably will be used for his versatility

 

[sglowrider]

Amad still is quite slight, though surprisingly strong for his size. Its hard to write him off at the moment but he needs football now.

He's only 1cm shorter than Antony but looks more solidly built.

 

[Champ]

Seems like Sunderland are recruiting a number of young French speaking players which can only help Amad settle into his new surroundings.

Their owner is French and has links to French football.

Not sure why this would help Amad though, he's been learning English for the last two years so am sure he's pretty decent by now!

 

[The Purley King]

Needs to knuckle down and get a good season under his belt.
If he plays only a handful of games again that will most likely be him finished here.
Should be bossing the championship, getting goals, assists and making an impact.
Odds are against it from what I can see but would be very happy to be proven wrong

 

[Bojan Djordjic]

He's only 1cm shorter than Antony but looks more solidly built.

Don't know if it's necessarily his physique that's the issue with Amad. He's quite small and slight but he uses his body well in contact and is good at tracking back. I think an area he needs to improve is his aggression and intensity during games. Has the mini-Berbatov about him in that he's effortless on the ball but just needs to be a bit more alert and show some intensity in his pressing and off ball running.

 

[sglowrider]

Don't know if it's necessarily his physique that's the issue with Amad. He's quite small and slight but he uses his body well in contact and is good at tracking back. I think an area he needs to improve is his aggression and intensity during games. Has the mini-Berbatov about him in that he's effortless on the ball but just needs to be a bit more alert and show some intensity in his pressing and off ball running.

He needs time. One of the more technically skilled players we have.

 

[Bojan Djordjic]

He needs time. One of the more technically skilled players we have.

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm in the pro-Amad camp but I have been trying to work out why its not working for him because he's immensely gifted but there's a reason he wasn't getting selected for Rangers and for United despite having decent production in the few opportunities he's received for both clubs.

 

[MileStolar]

Are Sunderland in the Championship?

They probably still play O'Shea and Brown in centre of defense.

 

[sglowrider]

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm in the pro-Amad camp but I have been trying to work out why its not working for him because he's immensely gifted but there's a reason he wasn't getting selected for Rangers and for United despite having decent production in the few opportunities he's received for both clubs.

He's a Sancho-type winger. He needs players to play cute one/two passes to create space & opportunities. You saw that in the U23s.
But at Rangers, he was playing with players who didn't understand him or were just more agricultural in their approach.

Quite different to your Antony who will create space off his own individual flair or off underlapping defenders.

 

[SAFMUTD]

Antony is 1cm taller than Amad according to google.

Didn't believe it so I actually google it and it turns you're right. Amad is 1 cm smaller than Antony and 2 cm smaller than Lisandro.

It must be the complexion then, because he looks small as hell.

 

[Adnan]

Their owner is French and has links to French football.

Not sure why this would help Amad though, he's been learning English for the last two years so am sure he's pretty decent by now!

He may well have been learning English but having a French speaking team mate of a African ground can only help him settle in quicker imo.

 

[Litch]

Never understood this signing, what did Utd expect? Did they think he was gonna grow 10 inches and fill out like the Rock? This was always going to be his body shape….

 

[MrBest]

Never understood this signing, what did Utd expect? Did they think he was gonna grow 10 inches and fill out like the Rock? This was always going to be his body shape….

If he was to end up being a number 10, he wouldn't need 10 inches. Some wingers are also not huge. The boy needs minutes before we decide on him. His talent is very clear, he just has been mismanaged since he got here.

 

[TwoSheds]

Never understood this signing, what did Utd expect? Did they think he was gonna grow 10 inches and fill out like the Rock? This was always going to be his body shape….

Presumably, like somebody like Lingard before him, they hoped he would fill out and learn to use his body better by his early twenties but also would just graft and take any opportunities given. He's not done badly but you need to do a bit more than "not bad" to get into teams chasing for honours.

 

[SWE-Chucky]

I really hope he goes on a loan and gets plenty of minutes, because he is in a age were he needs to take the next step if he is supposed to play for Man United in 1-2 year. Right now it seems that he is "to good" for the youth teams but not good enough, or at least not strong enough, to compete with PL players.

Another thing is that i still cant figure out why we decided to spend around 21m euros + 20m in add-ons on a 18 years old winger who had played 35min for the first team for a smaller club in Serie A. I do understand that he was scouted from clubs all around Europe, and that he was highly ranked among talents in Europe and that other big clubs like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Arsenal, PSG etc also showed intresse, but non of them were prepared to pay that kind of money for him.

Did we have a plan for him when he arrived? Was he supposed to fight for a place in the starting eleven? Or was he meant to start in the U23s? Was he supposed to spend the next 1-2 year on loan? You could assume that we hoped that he could take a place in the first team when we were to spend over 40m with add-ons but he has never been given a real chance over time, at least give him 20-30 min for like 10-15 games like we did when Ronaldo joined for a high fee at a young age.

We also signed Pellistri who is yet to get his first minutes for the first team.

 

[Ghostrider318]

We payed 37m (?) between him and Pellistri and I dont see a plan by the club for either of them. Nor do I see them breaking into the first team. The amount of money we've pissed away is astounding