Alvaro Morata | Real Madrid inform Juventus of their decision to salvage Morata's federative rights

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Things heating up a bit around Morata so maybe we could do with his own thread.





Worths 40 million?
 
I'm not seeing it. Looks decent enough when I've seen him, but his goalscoring record and inability to command a starting place for Juve are seriously putting me off. Can't really understand why some of the biggest clubs in the world would be lining up to sign him at that price.
 
He made a nice run against Bayern once
 
Didn't Mourinho give him his debut etc?
 
I'd rather just rely on Rashford to be honest. If we're gonna get a new striker, it's gonna have to be one who's on top of his game and can guarantee at least 20 goals a season. We don't need more young talents.
 
If he was our only signing up front I wouldn't be happy but he would help provide a pretty well rounded strikeforce of Ibra / Rashford / Martial and Morata himself.
Martial's long term future is not on the left, Mourinho might even play him through the middle as soon as next season so the stradegy would be what qualities each player brings to the table as a collective rather than what they provide individually.
 
Looks like a LVG signing. Striker that doesn't score goals. Great.
 
Bwuk said:
He's better than Welbeck.

Martial, Morata & Rashford would give us a fluent front three.
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I don't see how anyone can look at that front three and say it has a title winning amount of goals in though.
 
It would be ridiculous if we or any other team would spent 40M on this guy. The best they should hope for is 31M from West Ham.
 
Everyone underrating Morata, when he signs for someone else there'll be slit wrists flooding this thread.
 
Based on almost nothing at all, other than my own idiocy, I think he'll score a good amount of goals for whoever he plays for next, if not Juve.
 
The rumours that Real will use the buy-back clause then sell him on at a profit, if DDG has to go to Real, get Morata to OT as part of the package.
 
ZAGREB RED said:
The rumours that Real will use the buy-back clause then sell him on at a profit, if DDG has to go to Real, get Morata to OT as part of the package.
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Under these buyback clauses, can he refuse to go back?
 
NinjaFletch said:
I don't see how anyone can look at that front three and say it has a title winning amount of goals in though.
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He is typically the type of striker that Martial will love to play with, he is very mobile, relatively quick and can play as a pivot. For a good fee I would love to see him join United.
 
Brophs said:
Under these buyback clauses, can he refuse to go back?
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he must be able to - for any contract to be enforceable it has to be fair so he must have the right to say where he wants to live / work.
what I cant understand is what is to stop him looking at things and seeing that he is being linked with a £45m move
Cant see why he couldn't turn down any move back to real and then juve can sell him for say 35 million to somebody else, he can get a £5m signing on fee and the buying club saves £5m
 
Brophs said:
Under these buyback clauses, can he refuse to go back?
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No, he has a contract with Real that becomes effective as soon as they activate the clause. Otherwise, such clauses would not make much sense. But of course, he can voice his disapproval and could decline any moves if Real only intend to buy him back to sell him for a profit.
 
sun_tzu said:
he must be able to - for any contract to be enforceable it has to be fair so he must have the right to say where he wants to live / work.
what I cant understand is what is to stop him looking at things and seeing that he is being linked with a £45m move
Cant see why he couldn't turn down any move back to real and then juve can sell him for say 35 million to somebody else, he can get a £5m signing on fee and the buying club saves £5m
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Yeah, I suppose what I was more getting at is has he already agreed a contract with Madrid which would kick in once they have a bid accepted for him? That's the only way he could be compelled, I would have thought. And it's not like he's going to be rushing back to make Madrid a few quid so they can flog him for the second time in 2 or 3 years.
JuveGER said:
No, he has a contract with Real that becomes effective as soon as they activate the clause. Otherwise, such clauses would not make much sense. But of course, he can voice his disapproval and could decline any moves if Real only intend to buy him back to sell him for a profit.
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Just as I finished typing the above...

If he has an agreed contract, how could he decline a move?
 
Not worth more than £20 million. Needs to improve his finishing and mentality by a couple notches at the very least IMO, which is weird because he was billed as a clinical finisher in his younger days. The lack of finishing oomph has been a valid criticism for a more than a couple seasons now - he's just not taking the next step in his evolution, and consistently flatters to deceive in league fixtures. Overall game is quite good, but it's just not coming together for him for some reason. Most of the times, he comes across as too generous or even unfocused in a position that requires ruthless efficiency and being 'in the right position at the right time'. That said, he can be a good signing depending on what you need. eg. He'd do well with a goalscoring #10 like Griezmann - because Morata has good hold-up ability, can act as the tactical foil, and would bring him + Martial (who will likely progress further as a goalscoring wide forward) into play - when a more selfish player might clash with those two - because an attack can sustain only so many natural scorers before their are clashes; but an odd fit with a traditional creator at the AM position because the team will be starved of goals.

The raw statistical numbers are quite misleading too. 11 goals in 46 games is a poor return at first glance. But he's done that in 1976 minutes - to go with 9 assists, for 20 'scorers' in under 2000 minutes vs say 34 'scorers' for Kane in ~3700 minutes. Not the greatest tally all things considered because Kane scored a far greater number of goals, and is a superior striker on most counts; but again - signing Morata would depend on what you plan on doing with the #9 position (lethal finisher, or a foil that brings the other goalscoring offensive players into play), and he does need a stretch of starts to polish his goalscoring consistency. Has good defensive workrate too, which will allow you to press more effectively from the front. That said, Ibrahimović makes much more sense for what we need right now in terms of proven goalscoring ability.
 
Brophs said:
If he has an agreed contract, how could he decline a move?
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He cannot decline a move to Real. But if Real use the option to buy him just to sell him elsewhere he could decline those moves from Real. He cannot decline, but he has some leverage.
 
JuveGER said:
He cannot decline a move to Real. But if Real use the option to buy him just to sell him elsewhere he could decline those moves from Real. He cannot decline, but he has some leverage.
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Ah right, gotcha. So he'd end up back at Madrid, refusing to move. Doesn't sound ideal for anyone, really.
 
He is a decent striker, but not what we need. I don't see him scoring 25+ goals, also he doesn't worth 40m.
 
I see plenty share my sentiments as well. He's decent enough alright but he's still got improving to do. He's not that quick or powerful/strong. He's not going to carry a team I believe. I think the biggest reason we hear so much about him is because of that buy back clause Madrid have on him.
 
Invictus said:
Not worth more than £20 million. Needs to improve his finishing and mentality by a couple notches at the very least IMO, which is weird because he was billed as a clinical finisher in his younger days. The lack of finishing oomph has been a valid criticism for a more than a couple seasons now - he's just not taking the next step in his evolution, and consistently flatters to deceive in league fixtures. Overall game is quite good, but it's just not coming together for him for some reason. Most of the times, he comes across as too generous or even unfocused in a position that requires ruthless efficiency and being 'in the right position at the right time'. That said, he can be a good signing depending on what you need. eg. He'd do well with a goalscoring #10 like Griezmann - because Morata has good hold-up ability, can act as the tactical foil, and would bring him + Martial (who will likely progress further as a goalscoring wide forward) into play - when a more selfish player might clash with those two - because an attack can sustain only so many natural scorers before their are clashes; but an odd fit with a traditional creator at the AM position because the team will be starved of goals.

The raw statistical numbers are quite misleading too. 11 goals in 46 games is a poor return at first glance. But he's done that in 1976 minutes - to go with 9 assists, for 20 'scorers' in under 2000 minutes vs say 34 'scorers' for Kane in ~3700 minutes. Not the greatest tally all things considered because Kane scored a far greater number of goals, and is a superior striker on most counts; but again - signing Morata would depend on what you plan on doing with the #9 position (lethal finisher, or a foil that brings the other goalscoring offensive players into play), and he does need a stretch of starts to polish his goalscoring consistency. Has good defensive workrate too, which will allow you to press more effectively from the front. That said, Ibrahimović makes much more sense for what we need right now in terms of proven goalscoring ability.
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Well put. I can see LVG being keen on this type of player, I hope he isn't making the calls this summer
 
I think he has potential and could still explode from a goalscoring perspective. I'm not convinced Ibrahimovic is the answer personally, I think he'd score a few worldies but won't get 20 league goals here - we don't have a PSG dominance here, and he spends most of his time in the 10 position anyway.
 
If you don't think Ibrahimovic will manage 20 goals what do you think Morata will muster? 5? 6? He's at a side who are equally as dominant in their domestic league and he has a tiny fraction of what Ibrahimovic does. I mean, they went on their biggest match winning run of all time this season.
 
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