All time British+Irish Fantasy Draft

[antohan]

Shilton was in the "someone else might go for him so why bother?" category.

The "why bother?" part sums it up, I guess.

I understand those who went with non-English, and Banks/Clemence, what I don't get is how Hart ended up in there ahead of him.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

But then,
I wouldn't mind chucking three worthy players in there.

Made sense in earlier rounds. Or even in open rounds. Just not in a restriction round like this.

 

[Cutch]

I still can't work out how 11 managers concocted this formula whereby Gio runs away with Gordon feckin' Banks for 10M

It's utterly baffling isn't it. How the feck did that happen

 

[antohan]

McCracken - Annah 10m 12:19

Sure that must be cheating?

 

[antohan]

Made sense in earlier rounds. Or even in open rounds. Just not in a restriction round like this.

Why exactly? No PL isn't particularly exacting.

 

[Lynk]

Well, that's my team finished

 

[Chesterlestreet]

I understand those who went with non-English, and Banks/Clemence, what I don't get is how Hart ended up in there ahead of him.

Nobody actively went for Hart, though. He was nominated in the PL category after it became obvious people weren't too crazy about going for PL players – and then someone presumably spotted him on the list and decided to sort out their keeper.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Why exactly? No PL isn't particularly exacting.

With most positions filled, I have specific options in mind. This category doesn't fit. Don't see why I should nominate for someone else to pick. If they have missed good players the lose the first bid option and have to pay more.

 

[Chesterlestreet]

It's utterly baffling isn't it. How the feck did that happen

What happened is clear enough. People didn't fancy having to contend with anyone over Banks and just went for someone else.

We all know what role the keeper plays in these things.

Having Banks is nice and all - but it's a bit like having a really fancy pair of shoes when all you actually NEED is...a pair of shoes.

 

[antohan]

Nobody actively went for Hart, though. He was nominated in the PL category after it became obvious people weren't too crazy about going for PL players – and then someone presumably spotted him on the list and decided to sort out their keeper.

Whoever paid 10M for him did. No one even knew about this blind nominations with possible blocks then so you could expect most would go for non-English keepers prioritising outfield flexibility over whoever the keeper is (as they did), leaving a choice of 4-5 English keepers better than Hart. Simple logic really: rush in and you get Hart, play the waiting game and you could land a better keeper for the same money. As it turns out Gio did the latter and Banks fell on his lap. Not Clemence, Shilton or Seaman (all > Hart), Gordon Banks!

 

[antohan]

With most positions filled, I have specific options in mind. This category doesn't fit. Don't see why I should nominate for someone else to pick. If they have missed good players the lose the first bid option and have to pay more.

I don't either, which is why I suggested in those cases we resorted to that neutral clause crappy himself inserted. I wouldn't nominate players anyone in particular needs, just players who fit the criteria and are worthy picks. There's basically 4-5 players who defo should have been nominated by now. Obviously someone must be saving them for later and wouldn't be happy... but it's not exactly unfair since they already knowingly take the risk that anyone could nominate them.

 

[Chesterlestreet]

So, let's sum this up: We're all idiots. Except for Gio. We should have all done what he did - and waited for Banks. In which case we would've all been tactically brilliant - and all involved in a senseless bidding war for the least important part of the equation.

That about right?

 

[antohan]

What happened is clear enough. People didn't fancy having to contend with anyone over Banks and just went for someone else.

We all know what role the keeper plays in these things.

Having Banks is nice and all - but it's a bit like having a really fancy pair of shoes when all you actually NEED is...a pair of shoes.

I'm getting a bit fed up with that tbh, particularly with it being the norm and almost unfair to even point out. If there's one thing I definitely felt Cutch had going for him against EAP in the last draft was him having Peter Schmeichel while EAP had Casillas of all people dealing with Beckham's crosses. That's pretty much why I had him scoring from a set piece.

 

[Raees]

Banks is one of the few keepers who can elevate the class and charisma of a side, no doubt about that. He inspires confidence.

 

[antohan]

So, let's sum this up: We're all idiots. Except for Gio. We should have all done what he did - and waited for Banks. In which case we would've all been tactically brilliant - and all involved in a senseless bidding war for the least important part of the equation.

That about right?

No, as I said, most would have gone for non-English keepers and for good reasons, what I find bizarre is how those settling for an English keeper didn't wait and see how many actually did. I sort of get your Clemence bid, same if it had been Shilton, in both cases you get a top keeper guarranteed for the lowest possible bid and know there's zero chance of a bidding war. It was actually in line with how you went about the sheep draft! But Hart? Hart? HART?

 

[Chesterlestreet]

I'm getting a bit fed up with that tbh, particularly with it being the norm and almost unfair to even point out. If there's one thing I definitely felt Cutch had going for him against EAP in the last draft was him having Peter Schmeichel while EAP had Casillas of all people dealing with Beckham's crosses. That's pretty much why I had him scoring from a set piece.

I agree 100% and have been of that opinion forever. But the reality of the thing is that it seemingly matters very little who you sport between the sticks - and that is pretty much that.

I've argued before that this norm, as you say, should be scrapped - but it ain't happening.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

I don't either, which is why I suggested in those cases we resorted to that neutral clause crappy himself inserted. I wouldn't nominate players anyone in particular needs, just players who fit the criteria and are worthy picks. There's basically 4-5 players who defo should have been nominated by now. Obviously someone must be saving them for later and wouldn't be happy... but it's not exactly unfair since they already knowingly take the risk that anyone could nominate them.

Fair. I was not against neutral nomination btw!

 

[Chesterlestreet]

Confirmed:

MJJ - 186m - 1. Bobby Charlton 66m, 2. Bryan Robson 60M, 3. Kenny Dalglish 49m 4. Ray Wilson 10m 5. Harry Gregg 10m

Annah - 230m 1. George Best 95m, 2. Stanley Matthews 52m, 3. Danny Blanchflower 63m 4. B. Collins 10m 5. Jim Leighton 10m

Skizzo - 270m 1. John Charles 42m, 2. Bobby Moore 52m 3. Neville Southall 15m 4. Paul Ince 26m 5. Gary Neville 30m6. David Beckham 50m 7. Frank Lampard 8. Bobby Lennox 9. Ian Wright 10. Tony Dunne 10m

Lynk - 295m(-5m)1. Roy Keane 75m 2. Pat Jennings 30m 3. Billy Meredith 30m 4. Tony Adams 35m 5.John Terry 39m6.Barry 10m 7. Duff 10m 8. Fowler 14m9. Waddle 10m 10. V. Anderson 16m 11. Ivor Allchurch 10m 12. J. Carey 16m

Barney - 216m 1. Paul Scholes 67m, 2. Graeme Souness 56m 3. Jimmy Armfield 15m 4. John Greig 17m 5. Ronnie Simpson 10m 6. John Barnes 20m 7. Kevin Keegan 10m 8. Neil Franklin 21m

EAP - 271m 1. Paul Gascoigne 46m, 2. Harry Styles 45m, 3. Paul McGrath 45m 4. Michael Owen 16m 5.Liam Brady 49m6. Shay Given 14m 7.George Cohen 12m 8. Wes Brown 10m 9. Tommy Gemmell 12m 10. Sparky Hughes 10m 11. Emlyn Hughes 12m

Raees (-5m) - 268m 1. Denis Law 58m, 2. Dave Mackay 49m, 3. Alan Ball 17m 4. Billy Bremner 47m 5. Sol Campbell 37m 6.Eddie Hapgood 10m7. Billy McNeill 18m 8. Ray Clemence 10m 9. Raich Carter 12m 10. Cliff Jones 10m

Chesterlestreet - 253m 1. Duncan Edwards 69m,2. Billy Wright 30m, 3. Roger Byrne 27m; 4.Johnny Haynes 30m5.William R. Dean. 45m 6. W. Woodburn 10m 7. Jack Kelsey 10m 8. Pat Crerand 20m 9. Cliff Bastin 12m

Gio - 258m 1. Jimmy Greaves 30m, 2. Tom Finney 72m 3. Ashley Cole 36m 4. Davie Meiklejohn 10m5. Des Walker 34m5. Alan Morton 29m 6. Alex James 21m 7. Gordon Banks 10m 8. George Young 16m

Stobzilla - 276m 1. Jimmy Johnstone 38m; 2. Alan Hansen 40m 3. Johnny Giles 50m 4. Eddie Gray 40m 5. Kevin Ratfcliffe 15m 6. Peter Reid 15m 7.Danny McGrain 28m 8. Ron Springett 10m 9. Alan Shearer 20m 10. Teddy Sheringham 10m 11. Mike England 10m

SirAF- 260m 1. Giggs 70m, 2. Hurst 10m, 3.Lineker 25m 4. Trevor Brooking 18m 5. Steven Gerrard 33m 6.Hart 10m7.OShea 10m 8. L.King 25m 9. L. Baines 15m 10. M.Carrick 14m 11.Terry Butcher 16m 12. Alex Ferguson 10m 13. Sandy Jardine 23m [REMOVED: Gary Pallister]

Crappy - 234m 1. Irwin 42m, 2. Rush 30m 3.Wayne Rooney 20m 4. Bale 30m 5. Rio Ferdinand 55m 6. Jim Baxter 47m7.Andy Goram 10m

Bids for 6th Round MFs + Defenders (Starts at 7 PM BST, Everyone can nominate any 2 players)

Bids for 6th round - forwards/wingers - (Nominations closed)

Bids for Round 7 - Non PL players(No appearance in English PL) /2 nominations per person

Gordon Banks
Mike England
Cliff Jones
Kevin Keegan
Jackie Carey
George Young
Emlyn Walter Hughes
Neil Franklin
Tony Dunne
Alex Jackson - Chester 19m 01.58
Billy Liddell - Barney 19 m - 03:30
Alex Raisbeck- MJJ 10m 04:30
Nat Lofthouse-MJJ 10m 04:30
Jimmy McGrory - Barney 22m 04:39
Phil Neal - Crappy 15m 05:41
Patsy Gallacher - Crappy 10m 06.18
Mark Lawrenson - Skizzo 10m 06:35
Peter Lorimer - Raees 10m 11.33
McCracken - Annah 10m 12:19
Hardwick - Annah 10m 12:26

Frank McLintock
Gary Stevens

 

[antohan]

Can I make @SirAF 's two nominations then?

 

[Raees]

Go for it.

 

[antohan]

Yikes, PL rules out four of the players I would have wanted to nominate

Let me double check another.

 

[SirAF]

Can I make @SirAF 's two nominations then?

Yup, go for it.

 

[antohan]

Confirmed:

MJJ - 186m - 1. Bobby Charlton 66m, 2. Bryan Robson 60M, 3. Kenny Dalglish 49m 4. Ray Wilson 10m 5. Harry Gregg 10m

Annah - 230m 1. George Best 95m, 2. Stanley Matthews 52m, 3. Danny Blanchflower 63m 4. B. Collins 10m 5. Jim Leighton 10m

Skizzo - 270m 1. John Charles 42m, 2. Bobby Moore 52m 3. Neville Southall 15m 4. Paul Ince 26m 5. Gary Neville 30m6. David Beckham 50m 7. Frank Lampard 8. Bobby Lennox 9. Ian Wright 10. Tony Dunne 10m

Lynk - 295m(-5m)1. Roy Keane 75m 2. Pat Jennings 30m 3. Billy Meredith 30m 4. Tony Adams 35m 5.John Terry 39m6.Barry 10m 7. Duff 10m 8. Fowler 14m9. Waddle 10m 10. V. Anderson 16m 11. Ivor Allchurch 10m 12. J. Carey 16m

Barney - 216m 1. Paul Scholes 67m, 2. Graeme Souness 56m 3. Jimmy Armfield 15m 4. John Greig 17m 5. Ronnie Simpson 10m 6. John Barnes 20m 7. Kevin Keegan 10m 8. Neil Franklin 21m

EAP - 271m 1. Paul Gascoigne 46m, 2. Harry Styles 45m, 3. Paul McGrath 45m 4. Michael Owen 16m 5.Liam Brady 49m6. Shay Given 14m 7.George Cohen 12m 8. Wes Brown 10m 9. Tommy Gemmell 12m 10. Sparky Hughes 10m 11. Emlyn Hughes 12m

Raees (-5m) - 268m 1. Denis Law 58m, 2. Dave Mackay 49m, 3. Alan Ball 17m 4. Billy Bremner 47m 5. Sol Campbell 37m 6.Eddie Hapgood 10m7. Billy McNeill 18m 8. Ray Clemence 10m 9. Raich Carter 12m 10. Cliff Jones 10m

Chesterlestreet - 253m 1. Duncan Edwards 69m,2. Billy Wright 30m, 3. Roger Byrne 27m; 4.Johnny Haynes 30m5.William R. Dean. 45m 6. W. Woodburn 10m 7. Jack Kelsey 10m 8. Pat Crerand 20m 9. Cliff Bastin 12m

Gio - 258m 1. Jimmy Greaves 30m, 2. Tom Finney 72m 3. Ashley Cole 36m 4. Davie Meiklejohn 10m5. Des Walker 34m5. Alan Morton 29m 6. Alex James 21m 7. Gordon Banks 10m 8. George Young 16m

Stobzilla - 276m 1. Jimmy Johnstone 38m; 2. Alan Hansen 40m 3. Johnny Giles 50m 4. Eddie Gray 40m 5. Kevin Ratfcliffe 15m 6. Peter Reid 15m 7.Danny McGrain 28m 8. Ron Springett 10m 9. Alan Shearer 20m 10. Teddy Sheringham 10m 11. Mike England 10m

SirAF- 260m 1. Giggs 70m, 2. Hurst 10m, 3.Lineker 25m 4. Trevor Brooking 18m 5. Steven Gerrard 33m 6.Hart 10m7.OShea 10m 8. L.King 25m 9. L. Baines 15m 10. M.Carrick 14m 11.Terry Butcher 16m 12. Alex Ferguson 10m 13. Sandy Jardine 23m [REMOVED: Gary Pallister]

Crappy - 234m 1. Irwin 42m, 2. Rush 30m 3.Wayne Rooney 20m 4. Bale 30m 5. Rio Ferdinand 55m 6. Jim Baxter 47m7.Andy Goram 10m

Bids for 6th Round MFs + Defenders (Starts at 7 PM BST, Everyone can nominate any 2 players)

Bids for 6th round - forwards/wingers - (Nominations closed)

Bids for Round 7 - Non PL players(No appearance in English PL) /2 nominations per person

SOLD
Gordon Banks
Mike England
Cliff Jones
Kevin Keegan
Jackie Carey
George Young
Emlyn Walter Hughes
Neil Franklin
Tony Dunne

Alex Jackson - Chester 19m 01.58
Billy Liddell - Barney 19 m - 03:30
Alex Raisbeck- MJJ 10m 04:30
Nat Lofthouse-MJJ 10m 04:30
Jimmy McGrory - Barney 22m 04:39
Phil Neal - Crappy 15m 05:41
Patsy Gallacher - Crappy 10m 06.18
Mark Lawrenson - Skizzo 10m 06:35
Peter Lorimer - Raees 10m 11.33
McCracken - Annah 10m 12:19
Hardwick - Annah 10m 12:26

Frank McLintock
Gary Stevens
Steve Coppell
Terry Butcher

 

[SirAF]

Confirmed:

MJJ - 186m - 1. Bobby Charlton 66m, 2. Bryan Robson 60M, 3. Kenny Dalglish 49m 4. Ray Wilson 10m 5. Harry Gregg 10m

Annah - 230m 1. George Best 95m, 2. Stanley Matthews 52m, 3. Danny Blanchflower 63m 4. B. Collins 10m 5. Jim Leighton 10m

Skizzo - 270m 1. John Charles 42m, 2. Bobby Moore 52m 3. Neville Southall 15m 4. Paul Ince 26m 5. Gary Neville 30m6. David Beckham 50m 7. Frank Lampard 8. Bobby Lennox 9. Ian Wright 10. Tony Dunne 10m

Lynk - 295m(-5m)1. Roy Keane 75m 2. Pat Jennings 30m 3. Billy Meredith 30m 4. Tony Adams 35m 5.John Terry 39m6.Barry 10m 7. Duff 10m 8. Fowler 14m9. Waddle 10m 10. V. Anderson 16m 11. Ivor Allchurch 10m 12. J. Carey 16m

Barney - 216m 1. Paul Scholes 67m, 2. Graeme Souness 56m 3. Jimmy Armfield 15m 4. John Greig 17m 5. Ronnie Simpson 10m 6. John Barnes 20m 7. Kevin Keegan 10m 8. Neil Franklin 21m

EAP - 271m 1. Paul Gascoigne 46m, 2. Harry Styles 45m, 3. Paul McGrath 45m 4. Michael Owen 16m 5.Liam Brady 49m6. Shay Given 14m 7.George Cohen 12m 8. Wes Brown 10m 9. Tommy Gemmell 12m 10. Sparky Hughes 10m 11. Emlyn Hughes 12m

Raees (-5m) - 268m 1. Denis Law 58m, 2. Dave Mackay 49m, 3. Alan Ball 17m 4. Billy Bremner 47m 5. Sol Campbell 37m 6.Eddie Hapgood 10m7. Billy McNeill 18m 8. Ray Clemence 10m 9. Raich Carter 12m 10. Cliff Jones 10m

Chesterlestreet - 253m 1. Duncan Edwards 69m,2. Billy Wright 30m, 3. Roger Byrne 27m; 4.Johnny Haynes 30m5.William R. Dean. 45m 6. W. Woodburn 10m 7. Jack Kelsey 10m 8. Pat Crerand 20m 9. Cliff Bastin 12m

Gio - 258m 1. Jimmy Greaves 30m, 2. Tom Finney 72m 3. Ashley Cole 36m 4. Davie Meiklejohn 10m5. Des Walker 34m5. Alan Morton 29m 6. Alex James 21m 7. Gordon Banks 10m 8. George Young 16m

Stobzilla - 276m 1. Jimmy Johnstone 38m; 2. Alan Hansen 40m 3. Johnny Giles 50m 4. Eddie Gray 40m 5. Kevin Ratfcliffe 15m 6. Peter Reid 15m 7.Danny McGrain 28m 8. Ron Springett 10m 9. Alan Shearer 20m 10. Teddy Sheringham 10m 11. Mike England 10m

SirAF- 260m 1. Giggs 70m, 2. Hurst 10m, 3.Lineker 25m 4. Trevor Brooking 18m 5. Steven Gerrard 33m 6.Hart 10m7.OShea 10m 8. L.King 25m 9. L. Baines 15m 10. M.Carrick 14m 11.Terry Butcher 16m 12. Alex Ferguson 10m 13. Sandy Jardine 23m [REMOVED: Gary Pallister]

Crappy - 234m 1. Irwin 42m, 2. Rush 30m 3.Wayne Rooney 20m 4. Bale 30m 5. Rio Ferdinand 55m 6. Jim Baxter 47m7.Andy Goram 10m

Bids for 6th Round MFs + Defenders (Starts at 7 PM BST, Everyone can nominate any 2 players)

Bids for 6th round - forwards/wingers - (Nominations closed)

Bids for Round 7 - Non PL players(No appearance in English PL) /2 nominations per person

SOLD
Gordon Banks
Mike England
Cliff Jones
Kevin Keegan
Jackie Carey
George Young
Emlyn Walter Hughes
Neil Franklin
Tony Dunne

Alex Jackson - Chester 19m 01.58
Billy Liddell - Barney 19 m - 03:30
Alex Raisbeck- MJJ 10m 04:30
Nat Lofthouse-MJJ 10m 04:30
Jimmy McGrory - Barney 22m 04:39
Phil Neal - Crappy 15m 05:41
Patsy Gallacher - Crappy 10m 06.18
Mark Lawrenson - Skizzo 10m 06:35
Peter Lorimer - Raees 10m 11.33
McCracken - Annah 10m 12:19
Hardwick - Annah 10m 12:26

Frank McLintock
Gary Stevens
Steve Coppell
Terry Butcher

I already got Butcher!

 

[antohan]

D'oh! I was surprised he wasn't in it

 

[antohan]

Confirmed:

MJJ - 186m - 1. Bobby Charlton 66m, 2. Bryan Robson 60M, 3. Kenny Dalglish 49m 4. Ray Wilson 10m 5. Harry Gregg 10m

Annah - 230m 1. George Best 95m, 2. Stanley Matthews 52m, 3. Danny Blanchflower 63m 4. B. Collins 10m 5. Jim Leighton 10m

Skizzo - 270m 1. John Charles 42m, 2. Bobby Moore 52m 3. Neville Southall 15m 4. Paul Ince 26m 5. Gary Neville 30m6. David Beckham 50m 7. Frank Lampard 8. Bobby Lennox 9. Ian Wright 10. Tony Dunne 10m

Lynk - 295m(-5m)1. Roy Keane 75m 2. Pat Jennings 30m 3. Billy Meredith 30m 4. Tony Adams 35m 5.John Terry 39m6.Barry 10m 7. Duff 10m 8. Fowler 14m9. Waddle 10m 10. V. Anderson 16m 11. Ivor Allchurch 10m 12. J. Carey 16m

Barney - 216m 1. Paul Scholes 67m, 2. Graeme Souness 56m 3. Jimmy Armfield 15m 4. John Greig 17m 5. Ronnie Simpson 10m 6. John Barnes 20m 7. Kevin Keegan 10m 8. Neil Franklin 21m

EAP - 271m 1. Paul Gascoigne 46m, 2. Harry Styles 45m, 3. Paul McGrath 45m 4. Michael Owen 16m 5.Liam Brady 49m6. Shay Given 14m 7.George Cohen 12m 8. Wes Brown 10m 9. Tommy Gemmell 12m 10. Sparky Hughes 10m 11. Emlyn Hughes 12m

Raees (-5m) - 268m 1. Denis Law 58m, 2. Dave Mackay 49m, 3. Alan Ball 17m 4. Billy Bremner 47m 5. Sol Campbell 37m 6.Eddie Hapgood 10m7. Billy McNeill 18m 8. Ray Clemence 10m 9. Raich Carter 12m 10. Cliff Jones 10m

Chesterlestreet - 253m 1. Duncan Edwards 69m,2. Billy Wright 30m, 3. Roger Byrne 27m; 4.Johnny Haynes 30m5.William R. Dean. 45m 6. W. Woodburn 10m 7. Jack Kelsey 10m 8. Pat Crerand 20m 9. Cliff Bastin 12m

Gio - 258m 1. Jimmy Greaves 30m, 2. Tom Finney 72m 3. Ashley Cole 36m 4. Davie Meiklejohn 10m5. Des Walker 34m5. Alan Morton 29m 6. Alex James 21m 7. Gordon Banks 10m 8. George Young 16m

Stobzilla - 276m 1. Jimmy Johnstone 38m; 2. Alan Hansen 40m 3. Johnny Giles 50m 4. Eddie Gray 40m 5. Kevin Ratfcliffe 15m 6. Peter Reid 15m 7.Danny McGrain 28m 8. Ron Springett 10m 9. Alan Shearer 20m 10. Teddy Sheringham 10m 11. Mike England 10m

SirAF- 260m 1. Giggs 70m, 2. Hurst 10m, 3.Lineker 25m 4. Trevor Brooking 18m 5. Steven Gerrard 33m 6.Hart 10m7.OShea 10m 8. L.King 25m 9. L. Baines 15m 10. M.Carrick 14m 11.Terry Butcher 16m 12. Alex Ferguson 10m 13. Sandy Jardine 23m [REMOVED: Gary Pallister]

Crappy - 234m 1. Irwin 42m, 2. Rush 30m 3.Wayne Rooney 20m 4. Bale 30m 5. Rio Ferdinand 55m 6. Jim Baxter 47m7.Andy Goram 10m

Bids for 6th Round MFs + Defenders (Starts at 7 PM BST, Everyone can nominate any 2 players)

Bids for 6th round - forwards/wingers - (Nominations closed)

Bids for Round 7 - Non PL players(No appearance in English PL) /2 nominations per person

SOLD
Gordon Banks
Mike England
Cliff Jones
Kevin Keegan
Jackie Carey
George Young
Emlyn Walter Hughes
Neil Franklin
Tony Dunne

Alex Jackson - Chester 19m 01.58
Billy Liddell - Barney 19 m - 03:30
Alex Raisbeck- MJJ 10m 04:30
Nat Lofthouse-MJJ 10m 04:30
Jimmy McGrory - Barney 22m 04:39
Phil Neal - Crappy 15m 05:41
Patsy Gallacher - Crappy 10m 06.18
Mark Lawrenson - Skizzo 10m 06:35
Peter Lorimer - Raees 10m 11.33
McCracken - Annah 10m 12:19
Hardwick - Annah 10m 12:26

Frank McLintock
Gary Stevens
Steve Coppell
Ally McCoist

 

[Chesterlestreet]

Two Arsenal legends and a United one added to the roster. Boy Bastin shouldn't need an introduction, being the most famous piece in Chapman's gooner puzzle alongside Alex James - a tremendous left winger who was both a provider and a finisher (notorious for ghosting into the box to convert one of James' through balls). Jack Kelsey was the best in the business in the English top flight in his heyday, ahead of his time in more ways than one, and only Neville Southall compares among the ranks of Welsh keepers.

As for the last bloke, I don't know anything about him as a footballer (reckon he was pretty decent, though) but he is one of the finest commentators and allround TV personalities in recent memory: An unbiased, scathingly critical pundit.

 

[MJJ]

Alex Raisbeck 12m @MJJ

bid doesnt count, has to be 5m minimum after four hours.

 

[Chesterlestreet]

...and I bag a great favourite of mine - and thank feck for that: The man once labelled "the most discussed footballer of the century", a strange and controversial figure whose immense talent brought him to the top of the game...and then he fell, oddly and remarkably so. Much more will be added about the greatest of the Wembley Wizards, the spectacular Alec Jackson:

 

[crappycraperson]

It's utterly baffling isn't it. How the feck did that happen

Bio bid for goram as well. Just that I got in there first.

 

[Chesterlestreet]

Confirmed:

MJJ - 186m - 1. Bobby Charlton 66m, 2. Bryan Robson 60M, 3. Kenny Dalglish 49m 4. Ray Wilson 10m 5. Harry Gregg 10m

Annah - 230m 1. George Best 95m, 2. Stanley Matthews 52m, 3. Danny Blanchflower 63m 4. B. Collins 10m 5. Jim Leighton 10m

Skizzo - 270m 1. John Charles 42m, 2. Bobby Moore 52m 3. Neville Southall 15m 4. Paul Ince 26m 5. Gary Neville 30m6. David Beckham 50m 7. Frank Lampard 8. Bobby Lennox 9. Ian Wright 10. Tony Dunne 10m

Lynk - 295m(-5m)1. Roy Keane 75m 2. Pat Jennings 30m 3. Billy Meredith 30m 4. Tony Adams 35m 5.John Terry 39m6.Barry 10m 7. Duff 10m 8. Fowler 14m9. Waddle 10m 10. V. Anderson 16m 11. Ivor Allchurch 10m 12. J. Carey 16m

Barney - 216m 1. Paul Scholes 67m, 2. Graeme Souness 56m 3. Jimmy Armfield 15m 4. John Greig 17m 5. Ronnie Simpson 10m 6. John Barnes 20m 7. Kevin Keegan 10m 8. Neil Franklin 21m

EAP - 271m 1. Paul Gascoigne 46m, 2. Harry Styles 45m, 3. Paul McGrath 45m 4. Michael Owen 16m 5.Liam Brady 49m6. Shay Given 14m 7.George Cohen 12m 8. Wes Brown 10m 9. Tommy Gemmell 12m 10. Sparky Hughes 10m 11. Emlyn Hughes 12m

Raees (-5m) - 268m 1. Denis Law 58m, 2. Dave Mackay 49m, 3. Alan Ball 17m 4. Billy Bremner 47m 5. Sol Campbell 37m 6.Eddie Hapgood 10m7. Billy McNeill 18m 8. Ray Clemence 10m 9. Raich Carter 12m 10. Cliff Jones 10m

Chesterlestreet - 272m 1. Duncan Edwards 69m,2. Billy Wright 30m, 3. Roger Byrne 27m; 4.Johnny Haynes 30m5.William R. Dean. 45m 6. W. Woodburn 10m 7. Jack Kelsey 10m 8. Pat Crerand 20m 9. Cliff Bastin 12m 10. Alex Jackson 19m

Gio - 258m 1. Jimmy Greaves 30m, 2. Tom Finney 72m 3. Ashley Cole 36m 4. Davie Meiklejohn 10m5. Des Walker 34m5. Alan Morton 29m 6. Alex James 21m 7. Gordon Banks 10m 8. George Young 16m

Stobzilla - 276m 1. Jimmy Johnstone 38m; 2. Alan Hansen 40m 3. Johnny Giles 50m 4. Eddie Gray 40m 5. Kevin Ratfcliffe 15m 6. Peter Reid 15m 7.Danny McGrain 28m 8. Ron Springett 10m 9. Alan Shearer 20m 10. Teddy Sheringham 10m 11. Mike England 10m

SirAF- 260m 1. Giggs 70m, 2. Hurst 10m, 3.Lineker 25m 4. Trevor Brooking 18m 5. Steven Gerrard 33m 6.Hart 10m7.OShea 10m 8. L.King 25m 9. L. Baines 15m 10. M.Carrick 14m 11.Terry Butcher 16m 12. Alex Ferguson 10m 13. Sandy Jardine 23m [REMOVED: Gary Pallister]

Crappy - 234m 1. Irwin 42m, 2. Rush 30m 3.Wayne Rooney 20m 4. Bale 30m 5. Rio Ferdinand 55m 6. Jim Baxter 47m7.Andy Goram 10m

Bids for 6th Round MFs + Defenders (Starts at 7 PM BST, Everyone can nominate any 2 players)

Bids for 6th round - forwards/wingers - (Nominations closed)

Bids for Round 7 - Non PL players(No appearance in English PL) /2 nominations per person

SOLD
Gordon Banks
Mike England
Cliff Jones
Kevin Keegan
Jackie Carey
George Young
Emlyn Walter Hughes
Neil Franklin
Tony Dunne
Alex Jackson

Billy Liddell - Barney 19 m - 03:30
Alex Raisbeck- MJJ 10m 04:30
Nat Lofthouse-MJJ 10m 04:30
Jimmy McGrory - Barney 22m 04:39
Phil Neal - Crappy 15m 05:41
Patsy Gallacher - Crappy 10m 06.18
Mark Lawrenson - Skizzo 10m 06:35
Peter Lorimer - Raees 10m 11.33
McCracken - Annah 10m 12:19
Hardwick - Annah 10m 12:26

Frank McLintock
Gary Stevens
Steve Coppell
Ally McCoist

 

[MJJ]

Whoever paid 10M for him did. No one even knew about this blind nominations with possible blocks then so you could expect most would go for non-English keepers prioritising outfield flexibility over whoever the keeper is (as they did), leaving a choice of 4-5 English keepers better than Hart. Simple logic really: rush in and you get Hart, play the waiting game and you could land a better keeper for the same money. As it turns out Gio did the latter and Banks fell on his lap. Not Clemence, Shilton or Seaman (all > Hart), Gordon Banks!

given the restriction on english player and the uselessness of gk, no point having an english goalie.

 

[Lynk]

Jimmy McGrory finally. 328 goals in 320 games. 6 in 7 for Scotland.

 

[antohan]

Bio bid for goram as well. Just that I got in there first.

That's true. Banks may well have gone unpicked

 

[crappycraperson]

@crappycraperson

Doesn't make sense though. What happens if somebody now doesn't want more players - nominates shit players nobody wants? Why not just let the people who want to nominate use the nominations?

There were supposed to be 15 nominations per round - for 10 rounds which makes 150 players nominated. 120 players is enough for everybody to have 10 players before the auction round.

So there should be no way that people end up missing out on getting to nominate their own players. There was a 30 player buffet for that. Even if everybody picked up 12 players before the auction draft that amounts to 144 players - leaving room for everybody to get their picks.
You decide the amount of nominations - and the rules of nominations - on the fly, for each round. body can be blamed for not preparing for one round having one nomination - another 2 etc - that is something you decide on the spot.

So I'll just assume we will all get to pick players we nominate ourselves, instead of going this sheep route of "neutrals" nominating players for - which wasn't mentioned anywhere until page 44 of the draft.

You can't play the "You should have known what I would decide in 3 weeks about the nominations - so now you get a neutral/opponent sheep pick". Who knew before hand that the PL round would be allowed to finish without everybody making a nomination, who knew that some rounds would have one nomination - others 2 - others would have neutrals nominating players.

This won't be an issue if people just followed the rule of 2 nominations and did not hold them back.

Please take off any excess nominations.

FAO all managers

Next 2 auction rounds won't start unless everyone has 2 nominations submitted. Nominations must be approved by @Balu @antohan or @crappycraperson

 

[Annahnomoss]

Sure that must be cheating?

 

[antohan]

given the restriction on english player and the uselessness of gk, no point having an english goalie.

I've said that several times, I get why you would go non-English, the point is why you would go and bid on Joe Hart. Answers on a postcard.

 

[Raees]

Cliff Jones...

The forefather of Giggs and Bale.. his style was both combined, the crossing/scoring ability of Bale with the flair and intelligence of Giggs... a goal-scoring beast of a left winger with great delivery and goalscoring ability (scored 135 goals in 318 appearances) for Spurs and 16 in 59 appearances for wales.

Juventus were reported to have offered Spurs £100,000 for this brilliant player, whom most critics rated the finest winger in the country. Spurs had paid Swansea £35,000 for Jones in Feb 1958.

Cliff was quite simply one of Spurs greatest players who was capped 59 times for Wales and scored 16 international goals. He was a crucial member of Tottenham Hotspur's 1960-61 Double-winning side. During that Double season he scored 15 goals in 29 games and at the time was widely considered as the best left winger in the world. He travelled to Sweden with the side for the 1958 FIFA World Cup where Wales did so well, losing, agonisingly to Brazil via a goal that Stuart Williams deflected beyond Jack Kelsey.

Jones would also feature in the 1962 FA Cup winning side as well as the famous 1963 Cup Winners' Cup Final against Atlético Madrid in Rotterdam in which Spurs won 5-1. He won his third FA Cup medal in 1967.

 

[MJJ]

I've said that several times, I get why you would go non-English, the point is why you would go and bid on Joe Hart. Answers on a postcard.

Yeah, the joe hart one doesnt make any sense at all. He shouldnt even get picked if we went for a post 92 draft.

Also, someone bid 30m for pat jennings

 

[Annahnomoss]

This won't be an issue if people just followed the rule of 2 nominations and did not hold them back.

Please take off any excess nominations.

FAO all managers

Next 2 auction rounds won't start unless everyone has 2 nominations submitted. Nominations must be approved by @Balu @antohan or @crappycraperson

Great mate, just got the feel that it was suddenly an issue! My bad.