All time British+Irish Fantasy Draft

I'm extremely pleased to see Des Walker introduced here. I was damn near mocked for picking him in the criteria draft, I recall. But Walker was an excellent CB in his pomp - fast as hell and strangely smooth, if that makes sense: He wasn't a silky player by any stretch, but he rarely gave away fouls - got the tackle in just right.

One of those players who deteriorated significantly and seemingly suddenly, one might argue - lost a yard of pace, etc. But he was a genuinely brilliant defender when he was at the top of his game.
 
I'm extremely pleased to see Des Walker introduced here. I was damn near mocked for picking him in the criteria draft, I recall. But Walker was an excellent CB in his pomp - fast as hell and strangely smooth, if that makes sense: He wasn't a silky player by any stretch, but he rarely gave away fouls - got the tackle in just right.

One of those players who deteriorated significantly and seemingly suddenly, one might argue - lost a yard of pace, etc. But he was a genuinely brilliant defender when he was at the top of his game.

He had to be in it! Would have been crazy otherwise.
 
Also, why the 12th player rule? I can't imagine ever using subs unless it's an obligation in the game.

You could argue it favours those who like having subs for tactical flexibility by demanding those who don't care spend at least 10M on a useless player.

That said, it's the rule: 300M budget for 12 players, was clear as daylight from the OP.
 
Confirmed:

MJJ
- 176m - 1. Bobby Charlton 66m, 2. Bryan Robson 60M, 3. Kenny Dalglish 49m
Annah - 210m 1. George Best 95m, 2. Stanley Matthews 52m, 3. Danny Blanchflower 63m
Skizzo - 215m 1. John Charles 42m, 2. Bobby Moore 52m 3. Neville Southall 15m 4. Paul Ince 26m 5. Gary Neville 30m 6. David Beckham 50m
Lynk - 209m(-5m)1. Roy Keane 75m 2. Pat Jennings 30m 3. Billy Meredith 30m 4. Tony Adams 35m 5. John Terry 39m
Barney - 123m 1. Paul Scholes 67m, 2. Graeme Souness 56m
EAP - 215m 1. Paul Gascoigne 46m, 2. Harry Styles 45m, 3. Paul McGrath 45m 4. Michael Owen 16m 5. Liam Brady 49m 6. Shay Given 14m
Raees (-5m) - 208m 1. Denis Law 58m, 2. Dave Mackay 49m, 3. Alan Ball 17m 4. Billy Bremner 47m 5. Sol Campbell 37m
Chesterlestreet - 201m 1. Duncan Edwards 69m, 2. Billy Wright 30m, 3. Roger Byrne 27m; 4. Johnny Haynes 30m 5.William R. Dean. 45m
Gio - 138m 1. Jimmy Greaves 30m, 2. Tom Finney 72m 3. Ashley Cole 36m
Stobzilla - 168m 1. Jimmy Johnstone 38m; 2. Alan Hansen 40m 3. Johnny Giles 50m 4. Eddie Gray 40m
SirAF- 156m 1. Giggs 70m, 2. Hurst 10m, 3. Lineker 25m 4. Trevor Brooking 18m 5. Steven Gerrard 33m
Crappy - 122m 1. Irwin 42m, 2. Rush 30m 3. Wayne Rooney 20m 4. Bale 30m

Bids for 4th Round PL stars (Nominations closed)



Frank Lampard - Skizzo - 15m - 10:06
Gareth Barry - Lynk 10m - 13:05
Joe Hart - SirAF 10m - 16:40
John O'Shea - SirAF 10m 16:56
Ledley King - SirAF 25m - 17:07
Damien Duff - Lynk 10m -17:09
Leighton Baines - SirAF 15m - 17:29
Michael Carrick - SirAF 14m - 18:21
Rio Ferdinand - Crappy- 55m - 19:07
Robbie Fowler - Lynk 14m - 19:08

Bids for 6th Round MFs + Defenders (Starts at 7 PM BST, Everyone can nominate any 2 players)


Bobby Collins - Annah 10m - 19:00
Kevin Ratcliffe - Stobzilla £15m- 19:40
Peter Reid - Stobzilla £15m- 19:40
Danny McGrain - Stobzilla £28m - 19:40
Chris Waddle - Lynk 10m -19:45
William Woodburn - Chester 10m - 20:15
Eddie Hapgood - Raees 10m 20.46
Viv Anderson - Lynk 16m 20:50
George Cohen - EAP 12m - 21:22
Jimmy Armfield - Barney - 15m - 21:26
Terry Butcher - SirAF - 16m - 21:38
Gary Pallister - SirAF - 10m - 21:44
Billy McNeill - Raees 18 m 22.07
John Greig - Barney 17m - 21:59
Jim Baxter - Crappy- 31m - 22:07
Wes Brown
- EAP 10m - 22:20
Tommy Gemmell - Skizzo 10m 22:25
Des Walker - Barney 18m - 22.35
Bobby Lennox - Raees 17m 22.45
Sandy Jardine - Gio 10m - 22.52
 
Confirmed:

MJJ
- 176m - 1. Bobby Charlton 66m, 2. Bryan Robson 60M, 3. Kenny Dalglish 49m
Annah - 210m 1. George Best 95m, 2. Stanley Matthews 52m, 3. Danny Blanchflower 63m
Skizzo - 215m 1. John Charles 42m, 2. Bobby Moore 52m 3. Neville Southall 15m 4. Paul Ince 26m 5. Gary Neville 30m 6. David Beckham 50m
Lynk - 209m(-5m)1. Roy Keane 75m 2. Pat Jennings 30m 3. Billy Meredith 30m 4. Tony Adams 35m 5. John Terry 39m
Barney - 123m 1. Paul Scholes 67m, 2. Graeme Souness 56m
EAP - 215m 1. Paul Gascoigne 46m, 2. Harry Styles 45m, 3. Paul McGrath 45m 4. Michael Owen 16m 5. Liam Brady 49m 6. Shay Given 14m
Raees (-5m) - 208m 1. Denis Law 58m, 2. Dave Mackay 49m, 3. Alan Ball 17m 4. Billy Bremner 47m 5. Sol Campbell 37m
Chesterlestreet - 201m 1. Duncan Edwards 69m, 2. Billy Wright 30m, 3. Roger Byrne 27m; 4. Johnny Haynes 30m 5.William R. Dean. 45m
Gio - 138m 1. Jimmy Greaves 30m, 2. Tom Finney 72m 3. Ashley Cole 36m
Stobzilla - 168m 1. Jimmy Johnstone 38m; 2. Alan Hansen 40m 3. Johnny Giles 50m 4. Eddie Gray 40m
SirAF- 156m 1. Giggs 70m, 2. Hurst 10m, 3. Lineker 25m 4. Trevor Brooking 18m 5. Steven Gerrard 33m
Crappy - 122m 1. Irwin 42m, 2. Rush 30m 3. Wayne Rooney 20m 4. Bale 30m

Bids for 4th Round PL stars (Nominations closed)



Frank Lampard - Skizzo - 15m - 10:06
Gareth Barry - Lynk 10m - 13:05
Joe Hart - SirAF 10m - 16:40
John O'Shea - SirAF 10m 16:56
Ledley King - SirAF 25m - 17:07
Damien Duff - Lynk 10m -17:09
Leighton Baines - SirAF 15m - 17:29
Michael Carrick - SirAF 14m - 18:21
Rio Ferdinand - Crappy- 55m - 19:07
Robbie Fowler - Lynk 14m - 19:08

Bids for 6th Round MFs + Defenders (Starts at 7 PM BST, Everyone can nominate any 2 players)


Bobby Collins - Annah 10m - 19:00
Kevin Ratcliffe - Stobzilla £15m- 19:40
Peter Reid - Stobzilla £15m- 19:40
Danny McGrain - Stobzilla £28m - 19:40
Chris Waddle - Lynk 10m -19:45
William Woodburn - Chester 10m - 20:15
Eddie Hapgood - Raees 10m 20.46
Viv Anderson - Lynk 16m 20:50
George Cohen - EAP 12m - 21:22
Jimmy Armfield - Barney - 15m - 21:26
Terry Butcher - SirAF - 16m - 21:38
Gary Pallister - SirAF - 10m - 21:44
Billy McNeill - Raees 18 m 22.07
John Greig - Barney 17m - 21:59
Jim Baxter - Crappy- 31m - 22:07
Wes Brown
- EAP 10m - 22:20
Tommy Gemmell - Skizzo 10m 22:25
Bobby Lennox - Raees 17m 22.45
Sandy Jardine - Gio 10m - 22.52
Des Walker - Barney 18m - 22.52
 
I'm extremely pleased to see Des Walker introduced here. I was damn near mocked for picking him in the criteria draft, I recall. But Walker was an excellent CB in his pomp - fast as hell and strangely smooth, if that makes sense: He wasn't a silky player by any stretch, but he rarely gave away fouls - got the tackle in just right.

One of those players who deteriorated significantly and seemingly suddenly, one might argue - lost a yard of pace, etc. But he was a genuinely brilliant defender when he was at the top of his game.
Yeah I rate him highly. Did a great job of snuffing out highly talented attackers without getting the credit of some of his defensive partners. Similar to Pietro Vierchowod.
 
I'm extremely pleased to see Des Walker introduced here. I was damn near mocked for picking him in the criteria draft, I recall. But Walker was an excellent CB in his pomp - fast as hell and strangely smooth, if that makes sense: He wasn't a silky player by any stretch, but he rarely gave away fouls - got the tackle in just right.

One of those players who deteriorated significantly and seemingly suddenly, one might argue - lost a yard of pace, etc. But he was a genuinely brilliant defender when he was at the top of his game.

At first glance i thought it was Kyle Walker being introduced, thank feck for that
 
Confirmed:

MJJ
- 176m - 1. Bobby Charlton 66m, 2. Bryan Robson 60M, 3. Kenny Dalglish 49m
Annah - 210m 1. George Best 95m, 2. Stanley Matthews 52m, 3. Danny Blanchflower 63m
Skizzo - 230m 1. John Charles 42m, 2. Bobby Moore 52m 3. Neville Southall 15m 4. Paul Ince 26m 5. Gary Neville 30m 6. David Beckham 50m 7. Frank Lampard
Lynk - 209m(-5m)1. Roy Keane 75m 2. Pat Jennings 30m 3. Billy Meredith 30m 4. Tony Adams 35m 5. John Terry 39m
Barney - 123m 1. Paul Scholes 67m, 2. Graeme Souness 56m
EAP - 215m 1. Paul Gascoigne 46m, 2. Harry Styles 45m, 3. Paul McGrath 45m 4. Michael Owen 16m 5. Liam Brady 49m 6. Shay Given 14m
Raees (-5m) - 208m 1. Denis Law 58m, 2. Dave Mackay 49m, 3. Alan Ball 17m 4. Billy Bremner 47m 5. Sol Campbell 37m
Chesterlestreet - 201m 1. Duncan Edwards 69m, 2. Billy Wright 30m, 3. Roger Byrne 27m; 4. Johnny Haynes 30m 5.William R. Dean. 45m
Gio - 138m 1. Jimmy Greaves 30m, 2. Tom Finney 72m 3. Ashley Cole 36m
Stobzilla - 168m 1. Jimmy Johnstone 38m; 2. Alan Hansen 40m 3. Johnny Giles 50m 4. Eddie Gray 40m
SirAF- 156m 1. Giggs 70m, 2. Hurst 10m, 3. Lineker 25m 4. Trevor Brooking 18m 5. Steven Gerrard 33m
Crappy - 122m 1. Irwin 42m, 2. Rush 30m 3. Wayne Rooney 20m 4. Bale 30m

Bids for 4th Round PL stars (Nominations closed)


Gareth Barry - Lynk 10m - 13:05
Joe Hart - SirAF 10m - 16:40
John O'Shea - SirAF 10m 16:56
Ledley King - SirAF 25m - 17:07
Damien Duff - Lynk 10m -17:09
Leighton Baines - SirAF 15m - 17:29
Michael Carrick - SirAF 14m - 18:21
Rio Ferdinand - Crappy- 55m - 19:07
Robbie Fowler - Lynk 14m - 19:08

Bids for 6th Round MFs + Defenders (Starts at 7 PM BST, Everyone can nominate any 2 players)


Bobby Collins - Annah 10m - 19:00
Kevin Ratcliffe - Stobzilla £15m- 19:40
Peter Reid - Stobzilla £15m- 19:40
Danny McGrain - Stobzilla £28m - 19:40
Chris Waddle - Lynk 10m -19:45
William Woodburn - Chester 10m - 20:15
Eddie Hapgood - Raees 10m 20.46
Viv Anderson - Lynk 16m 20:50
George Cohen - EAP 12m - 21:22
Jimmy Armfield - Barney - 15m - 21:26
Terry Butcher - SirAF - 16m - 21:38
Gary Pallister - SirAF - 10m - 21:44
Billy McNeill - Raees 18 m 22.07
John Greig - Barney 17m - 21:59
Jim Baxter - Crappy- 31m - 22:07
Wes Brown
- EAP 10m - 22:20
Tommy Gemmell - Skizzo 10m 22:25
Bobby Lennox - Raees 17m 22.45
Sandy Jardine - Gio 10m - 22.52
Des Walker - Barney 18m - 22.52

@Skizzo

70million left on 5 players.
 
Yes - that's true too. The question is what will get you the most votes at the end of the day. From my "feel" of the Caf, we have plenty of members who actively oppose the romantic view of the olden days - which is a good thing, in my opinion. It leads to debates rather than people just nodding their heads in agreement that everything was better before they invented those pesky automobiles and personal computers. It means you have to stay on your toes if you intend to stand up for players of long lost eras - it's not enough to just spread some sort of romantic haze over these players.

It always ends in the same argument over playing conditions and such. :boring:
 
I'm off to bed. If MJJ sends his goalkeeper nomination over night, I'll start the goalkeeper round tomorrow at noon.
 
Confirmed:

MJJ
- 176m - 1. Bobby Charlton 66m, 2. Bryan Robson 60M, 3. Kenny Dalglish 49m
Annah - 210m 1. George Best 95m, 2. Stanley Matthews 52m, 3. Danny Blanchflower 63m
Skizzo - 230m 1. John Charles 42m, 2. Bobby Moore 52m 3. Neville Southall 15m 4. Paul Ince 26m 5. Gary Neville 30m 6. David Beckham 50m 7. Frank Lampard
Lynk - 209m(-5m)1. Roy Keane 75m 2. Pat Jennings 30m 3. Billy Meredith 30m 4. Tony Adams 35m 5. John Terry 39m
Barney - 123m 1. Paul Scholes 67m, 2. Graeme Souness 56m
EAP - 215m 1. Paul Gascoigne 46m, 2. Harry Styles 45m, 3. Paul McGrath 45m 4. Michael Owen 16m 5. Liam Brady 49m 6. Shay Given 14m
Raees (-5m) - 208m 1. Denis Law 58m, 2. Dave Mackay 49m, 3. Alan Ball 17m 4. Billy Bremner 47m 5. Sol Campbell 37m
Chesterlestreet - 201m 1. Duncan Edwards 69m, 2. Billy Wright 30m, 3. Roger Byrne 27m; 4. Johnny Haynes 30m 5.William R. Dean. 45m
Gio - 138m 1. Jimmy Greaves 30m, 2. Tom Finney 72m 3. Ashley Cole 36m
Stobzilla - 168m 1. Jimmy Johnstone 38m; 2. Alan Hansen 40m 3. Johnny Giles 50m 4. Eddie Gray 40m
SirAF- 156m 1. Giggs 70m, 2. Hurst 10m, 3. Lineker 25m 4. Trevor Brooking 18m 5. Steven Gerrard 33m
Crappy - 122m 1. Irwin 42m, 2. Rush 30m 3. Wayne Rooney 20m 4. Bale 30m

Bids for 4th Round PL stars (Nominations closed)


Gareth Barry - Lynk 10m - 13:05
Joe Hart - SirAF 10m - 16:40
John O'Shea - SirAF 10m 16:56
Ledley King - SirAF 25m - 17:07
Damien Duff - Lynk 10m -17:09
Leighton Baines - SirAF 15m - 17:29
Michael Carrick - SirAF 14m - 18:21
Rio Ferdinand - Crappy- 55m - 19:07
Robbie Fowler - Lynk 14m - 19:08

Bids for 6th Round MFs + Defenders (Starts at 7 PM BST, Everyone can nominate any 2 players)


Bobby Collins - Annah 10m - 19:00
Kevin Ratcliffe - Stobzilla £15m- 19:40
Peter Reid - Stobzilla £15m- 19:40
Danny McGrain - Stobzilla £28m - 19:40
Chris Waddle - Lynk 10m -19:45
William Woodburn - Chester 10m - 20:15
Eddie Hapgood - Raees 10m 20.46
Viv Anderson - Lynk 16m 20:50
George Cohen - EAP 12m - 21:22
Jimmy Armfield - Barney - 15m - 21:26
Terry Butcher - SirAF - 16m - 21:38
Gary Pallister - SirAF - 10m - 21:44
Billy McNeill - Raees 18 m 22.07
John Greig - Barney 17m - 21:59
Wes Brown
- EAP 10m - 22:20
Tommy Gemmell - Skizzo 10m 22:25
Bobby Lennox - Raees 17m 22.45
Sandy Jardine - Gio 10m - 22.52
Des Walker - Gio 20m - 23.09

Jim Baxter - Gio 33m - 23.09

@Barney @crappycraperson
 
You shouldn't name unpicked players
Not in the rules, as a munich survivor he's not exactly an unknown too.



also Kim Kardashian, couldn't you have just used no name instead?
 
Confirmed:

MJJ
- 176m - 1. Bobby Charlton 66m, 2. Bryan Robson 60M, 3. Kenny Dalglish 49m
Annah - 210m 1. George Best 95m, 2. Stanley Matthews 52m, 3. Danny Blanchflower 63m
Skizzo - 230m 1. John Charles 42m, 2. Bobby Moore 52m 3. Neville Southall 15m 4. Paul Ince 26m 5. Gary Neville 30m 6. David Beckham 50m 7. Frank Lampard
Lynk - 209m(-5m)1. Roy Keane 75m 2. Pat Jennings 30m 3. Billy Meredith 30m 4. Tony Adams 35m 5. John Terry 39m
Barney - 123m 1. Paul Scholes 67m, 2. Graeme Souness 56m
EAP - 215m 1. Paul Gascoigne 46m, 2. Harry Styles 45m, 3. Paul McGrath 45m 4. Michael Owen 16m 5. Liam Brady 49m 6. Shay Given 14m
Raees (-5m) - 208m 1. Denis Law 58m, 2. Dave Mackay 49m, 3. Alan Ball 17m 4. Billy Bremner 47m 5. Sol Campbell 37m
Chesterlestreet - 201m 1. Duncan Edwards 69m, 2. Billy Wright 30m, 3. Roger Byrne 27m; 4. Johnny Haynes 30m 5.William R. Dean. 45m
Gio - 138m 1. Jimmy Greaves 30m, 2. Tom Finney 72m 3. Ashley Cole 36m
Stobzilla - 168m 1. Jimmy Johnstone 38m; 2. Alan Hansen 40m 3. Johnny Giles 50m 4. Eddie Gray 40m
SirAF- 156m 1. Giggs 70m, 2. Hurst 10m, 3. Lineker 25m 4. Trevor Brooking 18m 5. Steven Gerrard 33m
Crappy - 122m 1. Irwin 42m, 2. Rush 30m 3. Wayne Rooney 20m 4. Bale 30m

Bids for 4th Round PL stars (Nominations closed)


Gareth Barry - Lynk 10m - 13:05
Joe Hart - SirAF 10m - 16:40
John O'Shea - SirAF 10m 16:56
Ledley King - SirAF 25m - 17:07
Damien Duff - Lynk 10m -17:09
Leighton Baines - SirAF 15m - 17:29
Michael Carrick - SirAF 14m - 18:21
Rio Ferdinand - Crappy- 55m - 19:07
Robbie Fowler - Lynk 14m - 19:08

Bids for 6th Round MFs + Defenders (Starts at 7 PM BST, Everyone can nominate any 2 players)


Bobby Collins - Annah 10m - 19:00
Kevin Ratcliffe - Stobzilla £15m- 19:40
Peter Reid - Stobzilla £15m- 19:40
Danny McGrain - Stobzilla £28m - 19:40
Chris Waddle - Lynk 10m -19:45
William Woodburn - Chester 10m - 20:15
Eddie Hapgood - Raees 10m 20.46
Viv Anderson - Lynk 16m 20:50
George Cohen - EAP 12m - 21:22
Jimmy Armfield - Barney - 15m - 21:26
Terry Butcher - SirAF - 16m - 21:38
Gary Pallister - SirAF - 10m - 21:44
Billy McNeill - Raees 18 m 22.07
John Greig - Barney 17m - 21:59
Wes Brown
- EAP 10m - 22:20
Tommy Gemmell - Skizzo 10m 22:25
Bobby Lennox - Raees 17m 22.45
Sandy Jardine - Gio 10m - 22.52
Jim Baxter - Gio 33m - 23.09
Des Walker - Barney 22m - 23.13
 
Confirmed:

MJJ
- 176m - 1. Bobby Charlton 66m, 2. Bryan Robson 60M, 3. Kenny Dalglish 49m
Annah - 210m 1. George Best 95m, 2. Stanley Matthews 52m, 3. Danny Blanchflower 63m
Skizzo - 230m 1. John Charles 42m, 2. Bobby Moore 52m 3. Neville Southall 15m 4. Paul Ince 26m 5. Gary Neville 30m 6. David Beckham 50m 7. Frank Lampard
Lynk - 209m(-5m)1. Roy Keane 75m 2. Pat Jennings 30m 3. Billy Meredith 30m 4. Tony Adams 35m 5. John Terry 39m
Barney - 123m 1. Paul Scholes 67m, 2. Graeme Souness 56m
EAP - 215m 1. Paul Gascoigne 46m, 2. Harry Styles 45m, 3. Paul McGrath 45m 4. Michael Owen 16m 5. Liam Brady 49m 6. Shay Given 14m
Raees (-5m) - 208m 1. Denis Law 58m, 2. Dave Mackay 49m, 3. Alan Ball 17m 4. Billy Bremner 47m 5. Sol Campbell 37m
Chesterlestreet - 201m 1. Duncan Edwards 69m, 2. Billy Wright 30m, 3. Roger Byrne 27m; 4. Johnny Haynes 30m 5.William R. Dean. 45m
Gio - 138m 1. Jimmy Greaves 30m, 2. Tom Finney 72m 3. Ashley Cole 36m
Stobzilla - 168m 1. Jimmy Johnstone 38m; 2. Alan Hansen 40m 3. Johnny Giles 50m 4. Eddie Gray 40m
SirAF- 156m 1. Giggs 70m, 2. Hurst 10m, 3. Lineker 25m 4. Trevor Brooking 18m 5. Steven Gerrard 33m
Crappy - 122m 1. Irwin 42m, 2. Rush 30m 3. Wayne Rooney 20m 4. Bale 30m

Bids for 4th Round PL stars (Nominations closed)


Gareth Barry - Lynk 10m - 13:05
Joe Hart - SirAF 10m - 16:40
John O'Shea - SirAF 10m 16:56
Ledley King - SirAF 25m - 17:07
Damien Duff - Lynk 10m -17:09
Leighton Baines - SirAF 15m - 17:29
Michael Carrick - SirAF 14m - 18:21
Rio Ferdinand - Crappy- 55m - 19:07
Robbie Fowler - Lynk 14m - 19:08

Bids for 6th Round MFs + Defenders (Starts at 7 PM BST, Everyone can nominate any 2 players)


Bobby Collins - Annah 10m - 19:00
Kevin Ratcliffe - Stobzilla £15m- 19:40
Peter Reid - Stobzilla £15m- 19:40
Danny McGrain - Stobzilla £28m - 19:40
Chris Waddle - Lynk 10m -19:45
William Woodburn - Chester 10m - 20:15
Eddie Hapgood - Raees 10m 20.46
Viv Anderson - Lynk 16m 20:50
George Cohen - EAP 12m - 21:22
Jimmy Armfield - Barney - 15m - 21:26
Terry Butcher - SirAF - 16m - 21:38
Gary Pallister - SirAF - 10m - 21:44
Billy McNeill - Raees 18 m 22.07
John Greig - Barney 17m - 21:59
Wes Brown
- EAP 10m - 22:20
Tommy Gemmell - Skizzo 10m 22:25
Bobby Lennox - Raees 17m 22.45
Sandy Jardine - Gio 10m - 22.52
Des Walker - Barney 22m - 23.15
Jim Baxter - Crappy 35m - 23.15


@Gio
 
Not in the rules, as a munich survivor he's not exactly an unknown too.



also Kim Kardashian, couldn't you have just used no name instead?

It's more of a common courtesy, I think, though it's probably less relevant in an auction draft.
 
Confirmed:

MJJ
- 176m - 1. Bobby Charlton 66m, 2. Bryan Robson 60M, 3. Kenny Dalglish 49m
Annah - 210m 1. George Best 95m, 2. Stanley Matthews 52m, 3. Danny Blanchflower 63m
Skizzo - 230m 1. John Charles 42m, 2. Bobby Moore 52m 3. Neville Southall 15m 4. Paul Ince 26m 5. Gary Neville 30m 6. David Beckham 50m 7. Frank Lampard
Lynk - 209m(-5m)1. Roy Keane 75m 2. Pat Jennings 30m 3. Billy Meredith 30m 4. Tony Adams 35m 5. John Terry 39m
Barney - 123m 1. Paul Scholes 67m, 2. Graeme Souness 56m
EAP - 215m 1. Paul Gascoigne 46m, 2. Harry Styles 45m, 3. Paul McGrath 45m 4. Michael Owen 16m 5. Liam Brady 49m 6. Shay Given 14m
Raees (-5m) - 208m 1. Denis Law 58m, 2. Dave Mackay 49m, 3. Alan Ball 17m 4. Billy Bremner 47m 5. Sol Campbell 37m
Chesterlestreet - 201m 1. Duncan Edwards 69m, 2. Billy Wright 30m, 3. Roger Byrne 27m; 4. Johnny Haynes 30m 5.William R. Dean. 45m
Gio - 138m 1. Jimmy Greaves 30m, 2. Tom Finney 72m 3. Ashley Cole 36m
Stobzilla - 168m 1. Jimmy Johnstone 38m; 2. Alan Hansen 40m 3. Johnny Giles 50m 4. Eddie Gray 40m
SirAF- 156m 1. Giggs 70m, 2. Hurst 10m, 3. Lineker 25m 4. Trevor Brooking 18m 5. Steven Gerrard 33m
Crappy - 122m 1. Irwin 42m, 2. Rush 30m 3. Wayne Rooney 20m 4. Bale 30m

Bids for 4th Round PL stars (Nominations closed)


Gareth Barry - Lynk 10m - 13:05
Joe Hart - SirAF 10m - 16:40
John O'Shea - SirAF 10m 16:56
Ledley King - SirAF 25m - 17:07
Damien Duff - Lynk 10m -17:09
Leighton Baines - SirAF 15m - 17:29
Michael Carrick - SirAF 14m - 18:21
Rio Ferdinand - Crappy- 55m - 19:07
Robbie Fowler - Lynk 14m - 19:08

Bids for 6th Round MFs + Defenders (Starts at 7 PM BST, Everyone can nominate any 2 players)


Bobby Collins - Annah 10m - 19:00
Kevin Ratcliffe - Stobzilla £15m- 19:40
Peter Reid - Stobzilla £15m- 19:40
Danny McGrain - Stobzilla £28m - 19:40
Chris Waddle - Lynk 10m -19:45
William Woodburn - Chester 10m - 20:15
Eddie Hapgood - Raees 10m 20.46
Viv Anderson - Lynk 16m 20:50
George Cohen - EAP 12m - 21:22
Jimmy Armfield - Barney - 15m - 21:26
Terry Butcher - SirAF - 16m - 21:38
Gary Pallister - SirAF - 10m - 21:44
Billy McNeill - Raees 18 m 22.07
John Greig - Barney 17m - 21:59
Wes Brown
- EAP 10m - 22:20
Tommy Gemmell - Skizzo 10m 22:25
Bobby Lennox - Raees 17m 22.45
Sandy Jardine - Gio 10m - 22.52
Des Walker - Barney 22m - 23.15
Jim Baxter - Crappy 35m - 23.15
Pat Crerand - Chester 10m - 23:20
 
Confirmed:

MJJ
- 176m - 1. Bobby Charlton 66m, 2. Bryan Robson 60M, 3. Kenny Dalglish 49m
Annah - 210m 1. George Best 95m, 2. Stanley Matthews 52m, 3. Danny Blanchflower 63m
Skizzo - 230m 1. John Charles 42m, 2. Bobby Moore 52m 3. Neville Southall 15m 4. Paul Ince 26m 5. Gary Neville 30m 6. David Beckham 50m 7. Frank Lampard
Lynk - 209m(-5m)1. Roy Keane 75m 2. Pat Jennings 30m 3. Billy Meredith 30m 4. Tony Adams 35m 5. John Terry 39m
Barney - 123m 1. Paul Scholes 67m, 2. Graeme Souness 56m
EAP - 215m 1. Paul Gascoigne 46m, 2. Harry Styles 45m, 3. Paul McGrath 45m 4. Michael Owen 16m 5. Liam Brady 49m 6. Shay Given 14m
Raees (-5m) - 208m 1. Denis Law 58m, 2. Dave Mackay 49m, 3. Alan Ball 17m 4. Billy Bremner 47m 5. Sol Campbell 37m
Chesterlestreet - 201m 1. Duncan Edwards 69m, 2. Billy Wright 30m, 3. Roger Byrne 27m; 4. Johnny Haynes 30m 5.William R. Dean. 45m
Gio - 138m 1. Jimmy Greaves 30m, 2. Tom Finney 72m 3. Ashley Cole 36m
Stobzilla - 168m 1. Jimmy Johnstone 38m; 2. Alan Hansen 40m 3. Johnny Giles 50m 4. Eddie Gray 40m
SirAF- 156m 1. Giggs 70m, 2. Hurst 10m, 3. Lineker 25m 4. Trevor Brooking 18m 5. Steven Gerrard 33m
Crappy - 122m 1. Irwin 42m, 2. Rush 30m 3. Wayne Rooney 20m 4. Bale 30m

Bids for 4th Round PL stars (Nominations closed)


Gareth Barry - Lynk 10m - 13:05
Joe Hart - SirAF 10m - 16:40
John O'Shea - SirAF 10m 16:56
Ledley King - SirAF 25m - 17:07
Damien Duff - Lynk 10m -17:09
Leighton Baines - SirAF 15m - 17:29
Michael Carrick - SirAF 14m - 18:21
Rio Ferdinand - Crappy- 55m - 19:07
Robbie Fowler - Lynk 14m - 19:08

Bids for 6th Round MFs + Defenders (Starts at 7 PM BST, Everyone can nominate any 2 players)


Bobby Collins - Annah 10m - 19:00
Kevin Ratcliffe - Stobzilla £15m- 19:40
Peter Reid - Stobzilla £15m- 19:40
Danny McGrain - Stobzilla £28m - 19:40
Chris Waddle - Lynk 10m -19:45
William Woodburn - Chester 10m - 20:15
Eddie Hapgood - Raees 10m 20.46
Viv Anderson - Lynk 16m 20:50
George Cohen - EAP 12m - 21:22
Jimmy Armfield - Barney - 15m - 21:26
Terry Butcher - SirAF - 16m - 21:38
Gary Pallister - SirAF - 10m - 21:44
Billy McNeill - Raees 18 m 22.07
John Greig - Barney 17m - 21:59
Wes Brown
- EAP 10m - 22:20
Tommy Gemmell - Skizzo 10m 22:25
Bobby Lennox - Raees 17m 22.45
Sandy Jardine - Gio 10m - 22.52
Des Walker - Barney 22m - 23.15
Jim Baxter - Crappy 35m - 23.15
Pat Crerand - Chester 10m - 23:20
Davie Meiklejohn - Gio 10m - 23.27
 
What's yer take on Magico Gonzales, anto? He had a spell in Uruguay, didn't he? Or am I losing it - probably am.

@antohan

There's been a zillion González players in Uruguay so probably someone got called Mágico at some point, but I don't have any recollection of the original one playing here. Probably didn't, or I would have noticed it.

I only got to watch him a few times as I wasn't really into Cádiz (nor was Uruguayan TV) so it was more the sort you heard about and got to see 2-3 times a year when playing the big teams, which naturally led to counterattacking setups. That suited him as he had a ridiculous turn of pace, and I mean ridiculous, more so than Robben and even Boniek. It was surprising really as he was a complete basketcase who didn't like training, didn't consider playing football a job, etc. A bit like our George.

I suspect he must have been inconsistent, at the very least, but couldn't swear by it. He was certainly laid back and that's where he was nothing like Robben or Boniek, he didn't really do this running up and down the pitch all game like a maniac, which in turn made it quite deceptive because defenders would just see this guy playing football normally, at normal pace when not standing still, with good passing and dribbling (the Mágico side)... And out of nowhere he would go all Speedy Gonzalez on you and created these major "WTF?" moments. It wasn't really the runaway situations (like Boniek's) when he sprinted and left his marker way behind, nope, he would just be quick enough to leave him behind and not a notch higher than that. You always knew he still had an extra gear if needed. The shockers were when he didn't start off the shoulder but 15-20 yards behind a defensive line and beat them to a ball placed 15-20 yards behind it. Mind, there must have been an element of the defenders themselves feeling safe and being a bit lackadaisical about it, but it was astonishing nevertheless. Best example I could find was over a longer distance, but it gives you the picture!

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I'm trying to see an Old Firm clash forming here - but the picture ain't clear yet. Gio versus Stobz has the makings of something.
 
There's been a zillion González players in Uruguay so probably someone got called Mágico at some point, but I don't have any recollection of the original one playing here. Probably didn't, or I would have noticed it.

I only got to watch him a few times as I wasn't really into Cádiz (nor was Uruguayan TV) so it was more the sort you heard about and got to see 2-3 times a year when playing the big teams, which naturally led to counterattacking setups. That suited him as he had a ridiculous turn of pace, and I mean ridiculous, more so than Robben and even Boniek. It was surprising really as he was a complete basketcase who didn't like training, didn't consider playing football a job, etc. A bit like our George.

I suspect he must have been inconsistent, at the very least, but couldn't swear by it. He was certainly laid back and that's where he was nothing like Robben or Boniek, he didn't really do this running up and down the pitch all game like a maniac, which in turn made it quite deceptive because defenders would just see this guy playing football normally, at normal pace when not standing still, with good passing and dribbling (the Mágico side)... And out of nowhere he would go all Speedy Gonzalez on you and created these major "WTF?" moments. It wasn't really the runaway situations (like Boniek's) when he sprinted and left his marker way behind, nope, he would just be quick enough to leave him behind and not a notch higher than that. You always knew he still had an extra gear if needed. The shockers were when he didn't start off the shoulder but 15-20 yards behind a defensive line and beat them to a ball placed 15-20 yards behind it. Mind, there must have been an element of the defenders themselves feeling safe and being a bit lackadaisical about it, but it was astonishing nevertheless. Best example I could find was over a longer distance, but it gives you the picture!

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Not sure who is chasing him there.. Schuster?
 

Whoohoo! That's The Flash right there. I recall him more as a pure trickster - a sort of taking-the-piss dribbler - than anything. Which goes to show how faulty memories can be - because that insane gear shifting abliity certainly was a huge part of his game.

On closer inspection he didn't play in Uruguay - I vaguely recalled him playing for a major club and thought it was Penarol, but it turns out he played for Independiente. But not THE Independiente - a Salvadorian side by the same name.
 
Confirmed:

MJJ
- 176m - 1. Bobby Charlton 66m, 2. Bryan Robson 60M, 3. Kenny Dalglish 49m
Annah - 210m 1. George Best 95m, 2. Stanley Matthews 52m, 3. Danny Blanchflower 63m
Skizzo - 230m 1. John Charles 42m, 2. Bobby Moore 52m 3. Neville Southall 15m 4. Paul Ince 26m 5. Gary Neville 30m 6. David Beckham 50m 7. Frank Lampard
Lynk - 209m(-5m)1. Roy Keane 75m 2. Pat Jennings 30m 3. Billy Meredith 30m 4. Tony Adams 35m 5. John Terry 39m
Barney - 123m 1. Paul Scholes 67m, 2. Graeme Souness 56m
EAP - 215m 1. Paul Gascoigne 46m, 2. Harry Styles 45m, 3. Paul McGrath 45m 4. Michael Owen 16m 5. Liam Brady 49m 6. Shay Given 14m
Raees (-5m) - 208m 1. Denis Law 58m, 2. Dave Mackay 49m, 3. Alan Ball 17m 4. Billy Bremner 47m 5. Sol Campbell 37m
Chesterlestreet - 201m 1. Duncan Edwards 69m, 2. Billy Wright 30m, 3. Roger Byrne 27m; 4. Johnny Haynes 30m 5.William R. Dean. 45m
Gio - 138m 1. Jimmy Greaves 30m, 2. Tom Finney 72m 3. Ashley Cole 36m
Stobzilla - 168m 1. Jimmy Johnstone 38m; 2. Alan Hansen 40m 3. Johnny Giles 50m 4. Eddie Gray 40m
SirAF- 156m 1. Giggs 70m, 2. Hurst 10m, 3. Lineker 25m 4. Trevor Brooking 18m 5. Steven Gerrard 33m
Crappy - 122m 1. Irwin 42m, 2. Rush 30m 3. Wayne Rooney 20m 4. Bale 30m

Bids for 4th Round PL stars (Nominations closed)


Gareth Barry - Lynk 10m - 13:05
Joe Hart - SirAF 10m - 16:40
John O'Shea - SirAF 10m 16:56
Ledley King - SirAF 25m - 17:07
Damien Duff - Lynk 10m -17:09
Leighton Baines - SirAF 15m - 17:29
Michael Carrick - SirAF 14m - 18:21
Rio Ferdinand - Crappy- 55m - 19:07
Robbie Fowler - Lynk 14m - 19:08

Bids for 6th Round MFs + Defenders (Starts at 7 PM BST, Everyone can nominate any 2 players)


Bobby Collins - Annah 10m - 19:00
Kevin Ratcliffe - Stobzilla £15m- 19:40
Peter Reid - Stobzilla £15m- 19:40
Danny McGrain - Stobzilla £28m - 19:40
Chris Waddle - Lynk 10m -19:45
William Woodburn - Chester 10m - 20:15
Eddie Hapgood - Raees 10m 20.46
Viv Anderson - Lynk 16m 20:50
George Cohen - EAP 12m - 21:22
Jimmy Armfield - Barney - 15m - 21:26
Terry Butcher - SirAF - 16m - 21:38
Gary Pallister - SirAF - 10m - 21:44
Billy McNeill - Raees 18 m 22.07
John Greig - Barney 17m - 21:59
Wes Brown
- EAP 10m - 22:20
Tommy Gemmell - Skizzo 10m 22:25
Bobby Lennox - Raees 17m 22.45
Sandy Jardine - Gio 10m - 22.52
Pat Crerand - Chester 10m - 23:20
Davie Meiklejohn - Gio 10m - 23.27
Des Walker - Gio 24m - 00.06
Jim Baxter - Gio 37m - 00.06

@crappycraperson
@Barney
 
Not sure who is chasing him there.. Schuster?

Can't see very clearly but seems to me Schuster is the one losing the ball on the edge of the box before the counter.

Inn any case, yeah, he had silks and fantasy, but loads of players do. What did strike me was that he combined that with such incredible pace and the fact he didn't just turn into a speed merchant but woud rather play, enjoy himself, and only rarely resort to it at full blast. Tells you a thing or two about his approach and overall confidence in his control and dribbling ability that he runs just about quickly enough to not be beaten by the defenders, keeping them in contention, when he actually could just turn it up a notch and leave them way behind. At least that was what I found striking/memorable about him.